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A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 24 May 2013, 14:38
by NYDominican
A prime Joe Frazier. ---- Against these respective boxers. Who do you think would win?
Judging, for a "Win". Or, a "loss". ---- By a listing of a "W". Or, an "L".
Here's the list. ----
1. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime John L. Sullivan.
2. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Tom Sharkey.
3. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime James J. Jeffries.
4. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Jack Johson.
5. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Joe Jeanette.
6. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Sam Lanford.
7. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Sam McVey.
8. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Harry Wills.
9. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Jack Dempsey.
10. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Gene Tunney.
11. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Tommy Gibbons.
12. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Joe Louis.
13. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Jersey Joe Walcott.
14. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Billy Conn.
15. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Ezzard Charles.
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 24 May 2013, 16:48
by zorndeslammes
TBH I think he bodies every one of these guys in a 15 round contest fought with 8 oz gloves with Louis being the exception. That fight is probably a war and pick em.
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 24 May 2013, 16:49
by BoxBuzz
I'd love to see the Charles Frazier matchup. Ouch.
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 24 May 2013, 17:25
by NYDominican
"A continuation". ---- Of a prime Joe Frazier. Against these respective boxers. Who do you think would win?
Judging, for a "Win". Or, a "loss". By a listing of a "W". Or, an "L".
Here's the 2nd part (Last part) of the list. -----
16. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Rocky Marciano.
17. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Sonny Liston.
18. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Cleveland Williams.
19. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Ernie Terrell.
20. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Ron Lyle.
21. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Ken Norton.
22. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Earnie Shavers.
23. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Larry Holmes.
24. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Tim Witherspoon.
25. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Evander Holyfield.
26. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Donovan Ruddock.
27. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Lennox Lewis.
28. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Mike Tyson.
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 24 May 2013, 17:27
by NYDominican
BoxBuzz wrote:I'd love to see the Charles Frazier matchup. Ouch.
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BoxBuzz, that match up would have been great.
I'd say that Joe Fraziers swarmer style. Along with Joes larger size, strength & intensity would be way too much for Ezzard.
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 24 May 2013, 17:34
by NYDominican
zorndeslammes wrote:TBH I think he bodies every one of these guys in a 15 round contest fought with 8 oz gloves with Louis being the exception. That fight is probably a war and pick em.
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A Joe Frazier vs. Joe Louis match up. ---- That SURE would be a war.
In this hypothetical fight, I would give the nod to Frazier. Due to Fraziers fighting style. Also, due to Fraziers physical build & physical abilities.
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 24 May 2013, 17:45
by NYDominican
zorndeslammes ----- In regards to the first listing of hypothetical Joe Frazier match ups. Out of that listing. ----
Joe Frazier vs. Tom Sharkey. ---- I would give the nod to Joe. Joes strength would be too much for Sharkey.
Joe Frazier vs. Jack Johnson. ---- I would say that Joe would beat Jack. Fraziers style & strength would be too much for Jack Johnson.
Joe Frazier vs. Sam Langford. ---- I would give the nod to Joe. Joes style & strength would overpower Sam.
Joe Frazier vs. Sam McVey. ---- I say that Joe would beat Sam. Again, Joes style & strength being the dominant equations. Which would overpower Sam.
Joe Frazier vs. Joe Jeanette. ---- This fight would be very competitive. I would still give the nod to Frazier. With Fraziers pace & stamina overpowering Jeanette.
Joe Frazier vs. Jack Dempsey. ---- This fight would be very, very competitive. I would give a slight edge to Joe. But, Jack Dempsey would have a chance. Due to Jacks slugger style & Jacks punching power. Primarily Jack having lethal punching power in both of his fists.
So, a Frazier / Dempsey matchup, this could be called a "toss up".
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 24 May 2013, 21:32
by yancey
zorndeslammes wrote:TBH I think he bodies every one of these guys in a 15 round contest fought with 8 oz gloves with Louis being the exception. That fight is probably a war and pick em.
Agree on all the others and I think that Joe's pressure eventually gets to the Brown Bomber. The first few rounds would be scary for Frazier fans. Wouldn't bet much but I think Frazier comes through.
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 24 May 2013, 21:34
by yancey
BoxBuzz wrote:I'd love to see the Charles Frazier matchup. Ouch.
Yep, there would be an "Ouch" alright.

Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 25 May 2013, 08:33
by The End
He mops everyone except Louis and Charles . Louis wins on a late stoppage . Frazier wins a close contested bout vs Charles.
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 25 May 2013, 08:41
by polecateddy
NYDominican wrote:A prime Joe Frazier. ---- Against these respective boxers. Who do you think would win?
Judging, for a "Win". Or, a "loss". ---- By a listing of a "W". Or, an "L".
Here's the list. ----
1. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime John L. Sullivan.
2. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Tom Sharkey.
3. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime James J. Jeffries.
4. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Jack Johson.
5. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Joe Jeanette.
6. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Sam Lanford.
7. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Sam McVey.
8. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Harry Wills.
9. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Jack Dempsey.
10. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Gene Tunney.
11. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Tommy Gibbons.
12. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Joe Louis.
13. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Jersey Joe Walcott.
14. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Billy Conn.
15. Prime Joe Frazier vs. a prime Ezzard Charles.
God I hate these threads. Lets just say Joe wins them all! Lol
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 25 May 2013, 10:35
by yancey
The End wrote:He mops everyone except Louis and Charles . Louis wins on a late stoppage . Frazier wins a close contested bout vs Charles.
Frazier's style was MADE to pressure smaller, slicker fighters, eventually hunting them down and taking them out.
Charles would not have seen the 15th round bell against prime Frazier. Book it
Charles is one of the all-time greats, but Frazier would have been too strong and too relentless.
Re: A prime Joe Frazier vs. prime?
Posted: 26 May 2013, 13:11
by Syntax Error
yancey wrote:The End wrote:He mops everyone except Louis and Charles . Louis wins on a late stoppage . Frazier wins a close contested bout vs Charles.
Frazier's style was MADE to pressure smaller, slicker fighters, eventually hunting them down and taking them out.
Charles would not have seen the 15th round bell against prime Frazier. Book it
Charles is one of the all-time greats, but Frazier would have been too strong and too relentless.
I agree with this.
Joe almost had a disdain for light heavyweights & I just can't imagine a 175lber ever living with a prime Frazier, even one as great as Ezzard Charles.