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Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 01:34
by earsjohn
It's on. Great news. Best possible fight out there.
Being made at 152, which has to be more a psychological ploy than a physical one.
I see Floyd taking a close but clear decisions, but will be a fun watch.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 02:16
by Pug1
earsjohn wrote:It's on. Great news. Best possible fight out there.
Being made at 152, which has to be more a psychological ploy than a physical one.
I see Floyd taking a close but clear decisions, but will be a fun watch.
Canelo is not ready. Easy fight for floyd.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 02:36
by The Insider
It's strange really, it's a fight i really want to see but I also see Floyd taking a very easy points decision.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 02:41
by Pug1
Will Canelo try to come in at 154? I doubt floyd would have missed that trick. $2M for every pound over??
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 02:59
by Final round
Good fight and credit to Floud for taking it BUT didn't he fight Cotto @ 154?
Also how can there be four titles on the line Sulaiman insists that Alvarez drops the titles to only have WBC or drops WBC
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 04:12
by earsjohn
Final round wrote:Good fight and credit to Floud for taking it BUT didn't he fight Cotto @ 154?
Also how can there be four titles on the line Sulaiman insists that Alvarez drops the titles to only have WBC or drops WBC
Sulaiman might me many things but he ain't stupid. Given the money sloshing around this fight, there's no way he'll want to be missing his meaty chunk of the pie.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 04:21
by earsjohn
Final round wrote:Good fight and credit to Floud for taking it BUT didn't he fight Cotto @ 154?
Also how can there be four titles on the line Sulaiman insists that Alvarez drops the titles to only have WBC or drops WBC
Also, what are the four belts? I get WBC (Alvarez), WBA (Floyd) and Ring. Where does the fourth one come in? Are the IBF joining in with a Galactic belt or maybe the WBO Platinum title?
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 04:29
by Craig14
Who cares about which belts?
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 04:41
by Final round
earsjohn wrote:Final round wrote:Good fight and credit to Floud for taking it BUT didn't he fight Cotto @ 154?
Also how can there be four titles on the line Sulaiman insists that Alvarez drops the titles to only have WBC or drops WBC
Also, what are the four belts? I get WBC (Alvarez), WBA (Floyd) and Ring. Where does the fourth one come in? Are the IBF joining in with a Galactic belt or maybe the WBO Platinum title?
WBC, WBA, Ring : Alvarez
WBA Super Champion : Mayweather
Also Sulaiman ordered Alvarez on the 28 May to drop either the other belts or the WBC in the next four to five days.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:00
by Crazyboy
forgetting belts for a second, i can;t wait for this fight personally, i really really like Alvarez and he clearly ducks no one,
Whether he is ready or not i'm not sure but i'm happy the fight is on
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:13
by Crazyboy
billy bessey wrote:Crazyboy wrote:forgetting belts for a second, i can;t wait for this fight personally, i really really like Alvarez and he clearly ducks no one,
Whether he is ready or not i'm not sure but i'm happy the fight is on
IMO no one will ever be ready for Flloyd
yeh your probably right, but at least its a lively fight and i am looking forward to it tbh
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:17
by danconnollyeire
So Floyd is happy to face Cotto, DeLaHoya at 154 but makes Alvarez, an actual puncher who is big at the weight, come in weight drained. At 154 I'd respect Floyd, at 152 it's always gonna be a win vs weight drained Alvarez. Ready made excuse
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:25
by Final round
I have to agree, credit to him for picking Alvarez but 2 fecking lbs? it's a bit petty of Floyd and not to clever. He'll always have the 'he beat him at a catch weight over he W'
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:26
by SNG
Final round wrote:I have to agree, credit to him for picking Alvarez but 2 fecking lbs? it's a bit petty of Floyd and not to clever. He'll always have the 'he beat him at a catch weight over he W'
A few years down the line and most people won't even remember that.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:36
by lefty
danconnollyeire wrote:So Floyd is happy to face Cotto, DeLaHoya at 154 but makes Alvarez, an actual puncher who is big at the weight, come in weight drained. At 154 I'd respect Floyd, at 152 it's always gonna be a win vs weight drained Alvarez. Ready made excuse
Yeah but you have to remember things like how pacquaio made de la hoya come in at a catchweight, etc and he looked so drained he moved like he had rigomortis! Its not just Floyd that does this.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:37
by danconnollyeire
SNG wrote:Final round wrote:I have to agree, credit to him for picking Alvarez but 2 fecking lbs? it's a bit petty of Floyd and not to clever. He'll always have the 'he beat him at a catch weight over he W'
A few years down the line and most people won't even remember that.
In most cases, yes. Floyd is an ATM in my opinion, but they has always been the 'he had Cortez's help vs Hatton; he avoid Pac with the blood testing' bandwagon. This screams 'Floyd is scared of Alvarez so is making him weight drained' (I'm not saying he is but that's how it looks).
It would be like when Hopkins won the LHW vs Pacal, then forcing Dawson to make 170lbs because he's scared of him or Calzaghe making Jones or Hopkins drain down. I don't understand Floyd's reasoning...
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:40
by SNG
danconnollyeire wrote:SNG wrote:Final round wrote:I have to agree, credit to him for picking Alvarez but 2 fecking lbs? it's a bit petty of Floyd and not to clever. He'll always have the 'he beat him at a catch weight over he W'
A few years down the line and most people won't even remember that.
In most cases, yes. Floyd is an ATM in my opinion, but they has always been the 'he had Cortez's help vs Hatton; he avoid Pac with the blood testing' bandwagon. This screams 'Floyd is scared of Alvarez so is making him weight drained' (I'm not saying he is but that's how it looks).
It would be like when Hopkins won the LHW vs Pacal, then forcing Dawson to make 170lbs because he's scared of him or Calzaghe making Jones or Hopkins drain down. I don't understand Floyd's reasoning...
I imagine it's just a psychological edge he's after. Alvarez used to weigh less than 152 fighting at this weight, it's only his last two or three fights he's weighed 154. He can make it comfortably.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:46
by Final round
At the time the fight was considered an utter mismatch across the board due to Oscar been far to big for Manny who in the same year had fought at featherweight Marquez, lightweight Diaz and then Del a Hoya at CW at 145. Three weights(almost) in one year!
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:56
by GlobalBox
Think Floyd is just larking around with the 152 to at least get a bit of an advantage due to what goes on before the weigh in, lets face it Canelo will be around 174 fight night and Floyd 146-148 at max, thats around 25-30lb difference when they step in the ring, thats enormous advantages to Canelo, I give Mayweather props here really, its a big challenge for him it really is. I think he has taken Alvarez now as he knows the kids improving, he knows he himself will slow slightly further as he ages, right time to take him, he figures If I am going to beat this kid then beat him now.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 05:57
by Final round
Floyd weighed in at 151 against Cotto, not sure fight weight.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 06:20
by stujones
Just cannot believe it, Floyd fights Alvarez and is still getting criticisms. What I am saying I cannot believe it, of course I can. Floyd could fight King Kong and there would still be some criticisms.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 06:35
by Loynesy
its a great fight.
Flight booked; hotel suite sorted; ticket promised.
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 06:36
by Final round
Be on allegedly I'd hope
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 06:38
by danconnollyeire
stujones wrote:Just cannot believe it, Floyd fights Alvarez and is still getting criticisms. What I am saying I cannot believe it, of course I can. Floyd could fight King Kong and there would still be some criticisms.
That's why I'm saying he should just fight at 154, cut it all out
Re: Floyd v Alvarez - sept 14th - Confirmed
Posted: 30 May 2013, 06:46
by Final round
Leonard Ellerbe is Floyd's fluffer ' make him do 2lbs Floyd *fluff* you da man LMW limit is whatever you want it to be *fluff* *fluff*
Seriosly It's a great fight, no fight weight limit.