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Protein drinks
Posted: 31 May 2013, 15:49
by Tommy Gunn13
Anyone know anything about Protein?I train 6-30am for an hour then 5pm for a couple of hours,only weights no cardio..one person told me to drink a Protein shake straight after both sessions&another person told me to drink one as soon as i get up&one not long before bed?? any advice guys please will be grateful,as ive never really botherd with weights before...chhers
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 31 May 2013, 18:42
by polecateddy
I don't know heaps on the subject, but something to bare in mind. It's a good idea after weights to eat some simple carbs with your protein shake, like white toast and jam or something. Otherwise your protein shake will just get used by the body as energy and not muscle building protein.
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 01 Jun 2013, 19:40
by EddieShredder
If you're looking for just something to aid recovery, then get a recovery specific shake (ie 2:1 Carbs:Protein, with a bunch of BCAA's/Amino's etc)... if you're looking to start putting on muscle, the most important thing is your diet first and foremost. Once you've got that right, then supplement it with lean protein shakes, and again, probably a recovery after training. All depends on what you're looking to achieve though.
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 06:53
by Srebmun
Altho' I get pretty much all the nutrition I need from food I do have 1 whey protein shake a day on training days, immediately after training and I have it with a pint of full fat organic goats milk, + I have 2 x BCAA's 45 mins before I go to the gym and 2 with my shake.
I'm 43 now and in better nick now than I have been in absolute years, starting to get really good definition.
I'm no expert but I think you're doing too much weights tho', twice a day is not necessary, you have to allow yourself to recover as it's in recovery mode (sleep mostly) where your muscle rebuilds.
I do weights 3 days a week (Mon, Wed, Fri) for an hour or less even, heavy full compound exercises, so I allow good recovery time. If I've had a particularly heavier session than normal I sometimes eat cottage cheese before I go to bed.
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 07:14
by polecateddy
Horses for courses I suppose. Personally I prefer some weights, supplemented with cycling and running. Being too heavy and bulky restricts pretty much every other aerobic activity.
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 07:19
by Srebmun
polecateddy wrote:Horses for courses I suppose. Personally I prefer some weights, supplemented with cycling and running. Being too heavy and bulky restricts pretty much every other aerobic activity.
I agree mate, I'm not bulky by any stretch of the imagination, I just wanted to lose weight (went from 16 stone to under 13.8 which I am now) and change my body composition.
I love cycling too, I go for a long ride over the weekend as I got a lovely bike through the cycle to work scheme (haven't cycled to work yet tho'), + I also walk almost everywhere. But in line with the OP, I never have shakes on non training days.
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 07:54
by polecateddy
Srebmun wrote:polecateddy wrote:Horses for courses I suppose. Personally I prefer some weights, supplemented with cycling and running. Being too heavy and bulky restricts pretty much every other aerobic activity.
I agree mate, I'm not bulky by any stretch of the imagination, I just wanted to lose weight (went from 16 stone to under 13.8 which I am now) and change my body composition.
I love cycling too, I go for a long ride over the weekend as I got a lovely bike through the cycle to work scheme (haven't cycled to work yet tho'), + I also walk almost everywhere. But in line with the OP, I never have shakes on non training days.
I've done the exact same thing this year, except I've come down from 17 to 13.8. Cycling to work and not eating in the evenings seems to have made the difference.
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 08:16
by Srebmun
polecateddy wrote:Srebmun wrote:polecateddy wrote:Horses for courses I suppose. Personally I prefer some weights, supplemented with cycling and running. Being too heavy and bulky restricts pretty much every other aerobic activity.
I agree mate, I'm not bulky by any stretch of the imagination, I just wanted to lose weight (went from 16 stone to under 13.8 which I am now) and change my body composition.
I love cycling too, I go for a long ride over the weekend as I got a lovely bike through the cycle to work scheme (haven't cycled to work yet tho'), + I also walk almost everywhere. But in line with the OP, I never have shakes on non training days.
I've done the exact same thing this year, except I've come down from 17 to 13.8. Cycling to work and not eating in the evenings seems to have made the difference.
Great stuff man
brilliant feeling isn't it.
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 17 Jul 2013, 09:15
by Omerta
3 - 4 weightlifting sessions a week plus 2 hiit cardio workouts are more than enough for most people unless your a pro athlete or using gear!!
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 17 Jul 2013, 09:21
by Omerta
SouthpawStephen wrote:While I was deployed to Iraq, I had quite a bit of down time. Being a skinny eff for the majority of my life, I decided to put my down time to good use. Started working out hard. My main purpose was to gain as much muscle as I could. Started trying to eat more of anything I could get my hands on. Saw some improvement over a month or two. Then I talk to someone who recommended creatine. Had a couple tubs sent to me. After a month, I saw some greater improvement. Then I started taking protein. I was probably drinking 200 grams a day in just shakes. Mostly just the whey mix and water. I would walk around sipping it throughout the day. It was after a month of doing this and I saw grandiose gains. I gained a lot of muscle.
While I would sip the shakes throughout the day, I would drink a big shake right after a workout. Between 60-80 grams of protein. I was shitting stones though. And I'm not sure how healthy it was to consume so much. But drinking a lot right after a work out is the way to go if you want gains fast.
Mate drinking 200 grams a day of protein just in shakes won't be very good for you shakes should just be used when its convenient ie you can't get a proper meal into you. You only need 1-1.5 grams of protein a day per pound of body weight so say if your 180 lbs then 180-225 ish grams of protein is what you should be looking to achieve and the majority of that should be thru chicken fish eggs cottag cheese etc you should only use the protein shakes to help you hit the amount of protein you need if you start to take in too much protein your body will eventually just turn it in to body fat
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 19:41
by dannyc1990
looking at the advice above i'm guessing you boxing guys don't know much about this kind of stuff. Iv been bodybuidling for around 2 years now.. forget the whole 'quick iv just worked out get a protein shake'.. the first thing i want to say is food is always better than any shake you'l ever find. Secondly you want to be eating a good amount of protein every day not just after you'v trained.. Another point, it's useless working out twice a day doing weights... set out a weekly routine and follow it but don't work out every day.. remember this ... the gym is where you break down the muscle, the kitchen is where you feed it, bed is where it grows
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 19:52
by dannyc1990
Omerta wrote:SouthpawStephen wrote:While I was deployed to Iraq, I had quite a bit of down time. Being a skinny eff for the majority of my life, I decided to put my down time to good use. Started working out hard. My main purpose was to gain as much muscle as I could. Started trying to eat more of anything I could get my hands on. Saw some improvement over a month or two. Then I talk to someone who recommended creatine. Had a couple tubs sent to me. After a month, I saw some greater improvement. Then I started taking protein. I was probably drinking 200 grams a day in just shakes. Mostly just the whey mix and water. I would walk around sipping it throughout the day. It was after a month of doing this and I saw grandiose gains. I gained a lot of muscle.
While I would sip the shakes throughout the day, I would drink a big shake right after a workout. Between 60-80 grams of protein. I was shitting stones though. And I'm not sure how healthy it was to consume so much. But drinking a lot right after a work out is the way to go if you want gains fast.
Mate drinking 200 grams a day of protein just in shakes won't be very good for you shakes should just be used when its convenient ie you can't get a proper meal into you. You only need 1-1.5 grams of protein a day per pound of body weight so say if your 180 lbs then 180-225 ish grams of protein is what you should be looking to achieve and the majority of that should be thru chicken fish eggs cottag cheese etc you should only use the protein shakes to help you hit the amount of protein you need if you start to take in too much protein your
body will eventually just turn it in to body fat
Not entirely true, eating at a caloric surplus will gain fat. Eating too much protein won't do much except give the kidneys a very hard time.. especially shakes. Protien, unused gets urinated out.. the body can't store it, this is the reason its useful to eat 4-6 meals per day containing protein (+carbs and fats obviously)
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 29 Jul 2013, 12:44
by Prediction...Pain
Whey is fvcking gross. Only when I'm starving and there ain't shit around will I have one. Just eat meat
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 15:48
by Bricks
That's what I drink Stevie boy.only my on is the delicious creamy duerrs brand not the dried turf Sunday.plus I add 3 raw eggs.have increased my weight from 73kg to 77 kg all solid muscle
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 24 Dec 2013, 05:37
by dberry
Try eating more small farm, free range eggs, free range pork, turkey and venison, then if you feel you need more protein, try looking for an additional source.
Re: Protein drinks
Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 07:34
by Deadendgeneration
Too much whey and I get the farts bad. Don't seem to get this problem if I eat lots of chicken etc.