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Eastman forever in the shadows
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 11:29
by bennie
WBC super-middleweight champion Markus Beyer will make a voluntary defence in Germany on June 5. Beyer was expected to face Australian Danny Green in a WBC-mandated rematch, but Green was forced to withdraw after suffering exhaustion in his recent win over Sean Sullivan in Australia.
Italy's Cristian Sanavia is the new opponent for Beyer: the WBC granted him permission a few hours ago and the clash is now signed and sealed. Sanavia, the current WBC number two middleweight was expected to face WBC number one middleweight Howard Eastman in a final eliminator for the right to meet Bernard Hopkins - but jumped at the opportunity to challenge Beyer a weight up.
Where does this leave Eastman?
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 12:12
by KOJOE90
Eastman always seems to lose out at the last moment.
I bet in private moments he kicks himself when thinking of the Joppy fight and how close he came to winning a 'World' title.
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 12:27
by REAL_DEAL
would eastman take the fight if he was offered it thou
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 12:30
by KOJOE90
REAL_DEAL wrote:would eastman take the fight if he was offered it thou
Fair question, I'd like to think he would pressuming he is fighting fit that is.
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 12:47
by hitman_hatton1
bloody hell

eastman is so unlucky

the guy just ain't getting the breaks is he :x
Re: Eastman forever in the shadows
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 12:48
by Loftgroov
bennie wrote:WBC super-middleweight champion Markus Beyer will make a voluntary defence in Germany on June 5. Beyer was expected to face Australian Danny Green in a WBC-mandated rematch, but Green was forced to withdraw after suffering exhaustion in his recent win over Sean Sullivan in Australia.
Italy's Cristian Sanavia is the new opponent for Beyer: the WBC granted him permission a few hours ago and the clash is now signed and sealed. Sanavia, the current WBC number two middleweight was expected to face WBC number one middleweight Howard Eastman in a final eliminator for the right to meet Bernard Hopkins - but jumped at the opportunity to challenge Beyer a weight up.
Where does this leave Eastman?
What, so was Eastman not offered the opportunity first? Seems somewhat unfair. How does Sanavia legitimately "leapfrog" him exactly?
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 12:48
by Coconut
Surely Eastman's now either WBC mandatory or he boxes off against number three - which I think is Jermain Taylor...
Re: Eastman forever in the shadows
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 12:49
by REAL_DEAL
Loftgroov wrote:bennie wrote:WBC super-middleweight champion Markus Beyer will make a voluntary defence in Germany on June 5. Beyer was expected to face Australian Danny Green in a WBC-mandated rematch, but Green was forced to withdraw after suffering exhaustion in his recent win over Sean Sullivan in Australia.
Italy's Cristian Sanavia is the new opponent for Beyer: the WBC granted him permission a few hours ago and the clash is now signed and sealed. Sanavia, the current WBC number two middleweight was expected to face WBC number one middleweight Howard Eastman in a final eliminator for the right to meet Bernard Hopkins - but jumped at the opportunity to challenge Beyer a weight up.
Where does this leave Eastman?
What, so was Eastman not offered the opportunity first? Seems somewhat unfair. How does Sanavia legitimately "leapfrog" him exactly?
probably a easy defense for beyer then another pay day for green rematch
Re: Eastman forever in the shadows
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 12:52
by Loftgroov
REAL_DEAL wrote:Loftgroov wrote:bennie wrote:WBC super-middleweight champion Markus Beyer will make a voluntary defence in Germany on June 5. Beyer was expected to face Australian Danny Green in a WBC-mandated rematch, but Green was forced to withdraw after suffering exhaustion in his recent win over Sean Sullivan in Australia.
Italy's Cristian Sanavia is the new opponent for Beyer: the WBC granted him permission a few hours ago and the clash is now signed and sealed. Sanavia, the current WBC number two middleweight was expected to face WBC number one middleweight Howard Eastman in a final eliminator for the right to meet Bernard Hopkins - but jumped at the opportunity to challenge Beyer a weight up.
Where does this leave Eastman?
What, so was Eastman not offered the opportunity first? Seems somewhat unfair. How does Sanavia legitimately "leapfrog" him exactly?
probably a easy defense for beyer then another pay day for green rematch
Oh I understand why Beyer wants Sanavia not Eastman, but I mean ..how can it be legitimately made? If as is seemingly the case, ANYONE can fight ANYONE it makes a mockery of the whole rankings system.
Why f**king bother with ranking at all? Seemingly champions pick and choose who they fight...
Re: Eastman forever in the shadows
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 12:53
by REAL_DEAL
Loftgroov wrote:REAL_DEAL wrote:Loftgroov wrote:
What, so was Eastman not offered the opportunity first? Seems somewhat unfair. How does Sanavia legitimately "leapfrog" him exactly?
probably a easy defense for beyer then another pay day for green rematch
Oh I understand why Beyer wants Sanavia not Eastman, but I mean ..how can it be legitimately made? If as is seemingly the case, ANYONE can fight ANYONE it makes a mockery of the whole rankings system.
Why f**king bother with ranking at all? Seemingly champions pick and choose who they fight...
everyone knows the WBC make the rules up as they go along
Re: Eastman forever in the shadows
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 12:55
by Loftgroov
REAL_DEAL wrote:Loftgroov wrote:REAL_DEAL wrote:
probably a easy defense for beyer then another pay day for green rematch
Oh I understand why Beyer wants Sanavia not Eastman, but I mean ..how can it be legitimately made? If as is seemingly the case, ANYONE can fight ANYONE it makes a mockery of the whole rankings system.
Why f**king bother with ranking at all? Seemingly champions pick and choose who they fight...
everyone knows the WBC make the rules up as they go along
Which makes you wonder why that belt is still deemed to be "THE" World Title.....
Re: Eastman forever in the shadows
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 13:55
by stujones
Loftgroov wrote:REAL_DEAL wrote:Loftgroov wrote:
Oh I understand why Beyer wants Sanavia not Eastman, but I mean ..how can it be legitimately made? If as is seemingly the case, ANYONE can fight ANYONE it makes a mockery of the whole rankings system.
Why f**king bother with ranking at all? Seemingly champions pick and choose who they fight...
everyone knows the WBC make the rules up as they go along
Which makes you wonder why that belt is still deemed to be "THE" World Title.....
Because compared to the WBA (Super Champions!) IBF (well we all know about them) and WBO (remember - "oh please Mr Bowe Sir, will you be our champion - Bowe: "No, Have your belt back" - WBO "No, No Sir you keep it")
WBC still sounds is still probably the best.
Let me get my boxing History right here - it was the WBC that was created 30 odd years ago. Its the WBA that is the first belt, so why has the WBC leapfrogged them as the #1 belt is beyond me.
I recall that Henry Cooper was refused a chance to fight Ellis for the WC title (by the BBBoC) because the BBBoC didn't accept the belt and would refuse to sanction any home title defences.
HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGE (they'll sanction anything now).
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 18:16
by steve689
While i question Eastman's tactics in the Joppy fight and agree he should have made more of his chance i also see many far less deserving fighters than Howard getting numerous "title" shots. In a division so devoid of charisma and natural talent a guy like Eastman should be up there with the rest challenging for the world crowns. It stinks.
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 18:27
by stujones
steve689 wrote:While i question Eastman's tactics in the Joppy fight and agree he should have made more of his chance i also see many far less deserving fighters than Howard getting numerous "title" shots. In a division so devoid of charisma and natural talent a guy like Eastman should be up there with the rest challenging for the world crowns. It stinks.
I disagree somewhat, just who has Eastman beaten to warrant such high praise. He is the reigning European champion, but so was Morrade Haakar (probably the guy your thinking off). Robert Allen is a fighter who actually looked like he deserved to be in the same ring as Hopkins when they have fought - and has been in impresive form.
I don't know who exactly are getting these "numerous" world title shots. Robert Allen is the only guy I can think off. Daniels had one chance, so did Haakar and so did the vast majority of Hopkins' opponents.
Eastman's number 1 status is a little lofty if you ask me, I think fighters like Aaron Mitchell are as deserving.
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 18:36
by steve689
I didn't mean fighters solely in the Middleweight division Stu but across the board, perhaps Howard has not set the world alight lately but talent wise he deserves another chance and it is a shame the Sanavia fight has not materialised as he would have beaten the plodding Italian IMO.
Posted: 08 Apr 2004, 23:09
by {amateur}
Could you imagine Taylor vs Eastman.
Posted: 09 Apr 2004, 18:23
by stujones
{amateur} wrote:Could you imagine Taylor vs Eastman.
Yes and although Taylor isn't experienced I tip him strongly to win. Taylor looks the business.