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...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 17:21
by iamasadlittleboy
Coming on to some forums people often say "Whether you like him or not, Bunce knows his stuff". Sadly in the last 2 pieces of his I've read, I've seen clear factual inaccuracies that further my idea that he just thinks he knows his stuff and that his televised faux pas aren't just a heat of the moment thing but are him revealing that he doesn't know as much as he thinks.
In a piece published on Tuesday in the Independent his column started with:
"Every two years since 1925 the European amateur boxing championships"
Of course we all know that's a load of crap. They are often every 2 years but there are numerous exceptions such as the championships held in:
1930, 1934, 1937, 1942 (even though the results were annulled), 1947, 1996 and 2011 (and various championships that were missing early on).
In another recent article Bunce said:
"The last people sent to prison for fixing fights served time on Alcatraz in the Fifties and they were, it has to be said, gangsters."
With out much research it's easy to find people who were arrested this century!
So, does he ever fact check or does his just spew what he feels like and hopes no one realises it's full of factual holes?
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 19:02
by chad
I suppose his articles are only as good as his sources. Maybe he is fact checking, but in the wrong places.
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 20:18
by Bob & Weave
chad wrote:I suppose his articles are only as good as his sources. Maybe he is fact checking, but in the wrong places.
Don't make excuses for him. All he has to do is a quick search on google about he's relevant topic's.
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 12 Jun 2013, 21:32
by Cyclops
I don't know whether he checks his facts but I've never liked him and always found him very annoying. I guess he's a Marmite sort of dude.
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 04:16
by mickey1975
He does most of it from memory. He does, whatever people say, have a great knowledge and experience of the sport. It would be easy for anyone to scour the Internet for facts and figures.
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 07:27
by chad
Bob & Weave wrote:chad wrote:I suppose his articles are only as good as his sources. Maybe he is fact checking, but in the wrong places.
Don't make excuses for him.
Calm yourself down
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 07:29
by Asterix
You'll have to explain to Bunce what a "fact" is, first, in order for him to check them. :P
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 07:56
by freddydoesdallas
I think you're being a bit overly critical, especially on the biannual Europeans. The years listed were during a pretty bad time for Europe and a lot of sports hit the skids.
I suppose he could have said something along the lines of missing during the inter-war period and WW2 but it's not really necessary. In 88 years, you've picked out 7 examples with 5 being during a dark time for europe.
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 12:07
by IronLiver
Steve bunce is great for boxing coverage okay he gets the odd fact wrong but his opinion is a good'un
Streets ahead of the brain numbing tones of Glenn 'the definitive opinion' McCrory or Johnny 'on the fence' Nelson or Adam 'serial killer eyes' Smith.
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 12:16
by Benelio
IronLiver wrote:Adam 'serial killer eyes' Smith.
A little known fact... the Ringside studio is actually Adam Smith's bedroom.
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 03:57
by ourkid1984
Were you bored shitless when you wrote this? I mean i support people with autism and ocd who are less exact than this!
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 12:43
by m1kee50
mickey1975 wrote:He does most of it from memory. He does, whatever people say, have a great knowledge and experience of the sport. It would be easy for anyone to scour the Internet for facts and figures.
I think its called responsible journalism.
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 13:00
by desperados
Benelio wrote:IronLiver wrote:Adam 'serial killer eyes' Smith.
A little known fact... the Ringside studio is actually Adam Smith's bedroom.

Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 13:03
by NazNaci1
@matt___s wrote:mickey1975 wrote:He does most of it from memory. He does, whatever people say, have a great knowledge and experience of the sport. It would be easy for anyone to scour the Internet for facts and figures.
I think its called responsible journalism.
Does that even still exist?
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 15:22
by palooka
bengulnaci1 wrote:@matt___s wrote:mickey1975 wrote:He does most of it from memory. He does, whatever people say, have a great knowledge and experience of the sport. It would be easy for anyone to scour the Internet for facts and figures.
I think its called responsible journalism.
Does that even still exist?
Even established media with editors and sub editors get facts wrong and leave things open to interpretation. Bunce is very good and I enjoy watching him, my wife can't watch him at all; he may get bits wrong but is going live, can be asked any question, unscripted and has paid his dues - none of the others knows anything about Martin Harley, Alan Adams, Danny Peters, Jamie Branch, Craig Spacie or Shaun Gray and Bunce will know all sorts and have some good stories about them; I like a fan being 'in there' and am happy he's doing well.
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 17:03
by donal
he's turned into a real twat lately, i just fast forward thru his bits, just loves the sounds of his own voice banging on the podcasts about how its his show and he's the guvner like a mockney gangster, prick
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 19:43
by iamasadlittleboy
palooka wrote:
Even established media with editors and sub editors get facts wrong and leave things open to interpretation. Bunce is very good and I enjoy watching him, my wife can't watch him at all; he may get bits wrong but is going live, can be asked any question, unscripted and has paid his dues - none of the others knows anything about Martin Harley, Alan Adams, Danny Peters, Jamie Branch, Craig Spacie or Shaun Gray and Bunce will know all sorts and have some good stories about them; I like a fan being 'in there' and am happy he's doing well.
With the examples I've used they were in print so he hasn't got the excuse of being live.
Re: ...does Bunce ever fact check his stuff?
Posted: 15 Jun 2013, 07:41
by squared circle
He should be sacked for two such catastrophic errors. Who the hell does he think he is.
Jeez