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Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 15:03
by Croydon1
In the past 10years?

I absolutely love it but ten+ years ago (besides naz) British fighters were generally quite quiet and American fighters were always known to be ultra confident, arrogant and deemed quite disrespectful to some however the roles have completely reversed we have seen Haye, Chisora, Fury, Calzaghe etc talk a lot and you often see the phrase 'Loudmouth Brits' banged about now and that generally never used to happen.

Is this down to more exposure, promotion or the decline of the American heavies I don't know but it is interesting how much the roles have reversed.

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 15:12
by orbtastic
I think there's always been fighters either mouthing off or being quoted as "saying something".

These days with TV and media exposure it's easy to see how people are aping US fighters.

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 15 Jun 2013, 17:44
by donal
you lot only just noticed british arrogance fornicate sake come and take a look from a different viewpoint in europe lads

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 15 Jun 2013, 21:35
by Wales
donal wrote:you lot only just noticed british arrogance eff sake come and take a look from a different viewpoint in europe lads
I dont find us welsh arrogant, i think we know our place. Plucky underdogs happy with our language on road signs, cheese on toast as the national dish and ready to sing our way out of trouble wherever possible. 10,000 crazed zulus with spears? Not an issue, knock out bells of harlech and hope they fornicate off.

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 02:12
by TJ77
Wales wrote:
donal wrote:you lot only just noticed british arrogance eff sake come and take a look from a different viewpoint in europe lads
I dont find us welsh arrogant, i think we know our place. Plucky underdogs happy with our language on road signs, cheese on toast as the national dish and ready to sing our way out of trouble wherever possible. 10,000 crazed zulus with spears? Not an issue, knock out bells of harlech and hope they eff off.
A fair and honest analogy you failed to mention your affection for sheep but that aside fair do's like. :wink:

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 03:28
by Wales
TJ77 wrote:
Wales wrote:
donal wrote:you lot only just noticed british arrogance eff sake come and take a look from a different viewpoint in europe lads
I dont find us welsh arrogant, i think we know our place. Plucky underdogs happy with our language on road signs, cheese on toast as the national dish and ready to sing our way out of trouble wherever possible. 10,000 crazed zulus with spears? Not an issue, knock out bells of harlech and hope they eff off.
A fair and honest analogy you failed to mention your affection for sheep but that aside fair do's like. :wink:
Strange one that, someone, somewhere mustve been caught at somepoint. Be a bizzare thing to make up. Theres a guy in a town about 20miles from me called "Dick one cow" - somewhat dissapointingly (not for the cow)he actually owns one cow and keeps it in the back garden of his house. In the same town (true story this) there is a bloke with one eye who got caught trying to have sex with his neighbours dog in the back garden during a house party. He was prosecuted, and during the summing up the judge said "i hope for your sake your sight doesnt deteriorate in your good eye as i dont think a guide dog would be appropriate" .

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 03:29
by Wales
In a nutshell we've moved on to dogs now! Think its down to not having to eat them after.

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 04:27
by rm1
simple its come from America we all ape their rap stars now just like the US sportsman. Also people don't seem to mind giving it the big one and then being found out. They all believe they must constantly say they are the best if they are going to be any good.

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 09:07
by John
Wales wrote:Not an issue, knock out bells of harlech and hope they eff off.
It's "Men of Harlech" my Welsh grandfather used to sing a funny version, I can still remember two lines ...

We're the men who came from Norway
Shooting peas up a goat's back doorway

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 17:38
by donal
MachoMan09 wrote:
donal wrote:you lot only just noticed british arrogance eff sake come and take a look from a different viewpoint in europe lads
Oh do pipe down. You savages in the dependencies would be nothing without us.
lol i see what you doin :TU:

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 19:48
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Two clips from the great 'Hedd Wynn' which was a whisker from winning an oscar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEonVqhChNs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEpCvdNphMs

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 20:17
by jameswilson
Fat Git wrote:Two clips from the great 'Hedd Wynn' which was a whisker from winning an oscar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEonVqhChNs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEpCvdNphMs
One of the translations in the first song are incorrect.

'Ar ol lladdu mochyn ddu' actually means 'after killing the black pig' not burying.

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 20:22
by el_grande_mauro_mina
jameswilson wrote:
Fat Git wrote:Two clips from the great 'Hedd Wynn' which was a whisker from winning an oscar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEonVqhChNs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEpCvdNphMs
One of the translations in the first song are incorrect.

'Ar ol lladdu mochyn ddu' actually means 'after killing the black pig' not burying.
Glad to see life in Aber wasn't wasted after all! :OhYes:

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 20:23
by jameswilson
Wales wrote:
donal wrote:you lot only just noticed british arrogance eff sake come and take a look from a different viewpoint in europe lads
I dont find us welsh arrogant, i think we know our place. Plucky underdogs happy with our language on road signs, cheese on toast as the national dish and ready to sing our way out of trouble wherever possible. 10,000 crazed zulus with spears? Not an issue, knock out bells of harlech and hope they eff off.
:lol:

Yeah mate. There are never any fights in streets involving the Welsh are there. They always start belting out 'Cwm rhondda' if someone winds them up.

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 20:25
by jameswilson
Fat Git wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
Fat Git wrote:Two clips from the great 'Hedd Wynn' which was a whisker from winning an oscar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEonVqhChNs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEpCvdNphMs
One of the translations in the first song are incorrect.

'Ar ol lladdu mochyn ddu' actually means 'after killing the black pig' not burying.
Glad to see life in Aber wasn't wasted after all! :OhYes:
I can't speak the language the way that I could when I was 18. But I can still understand it perfectly.

I suppose living in Swansea for your time at University was about as much use as 2 tits on a fish wasn't it? Hardly anyone can speak it down there.

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 16 Jun 2013, 22:03
by el_grande_mauro_mina
jameswilson wrote:
Fat Git wrote:
jameswilson wrote:Two clips from the great 'Hedd Wynn' which was a whisker from winning an oscar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEonVqhChNs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEpCvdNphMs

One of the translations in the first song are incorrect.

'Ar ol lladdu mochyn ddu' actually means 'after killing the black pig' not burying.
Glad to see life in Aber wasn't wasted after all! :OhYes:
I can't speak the language the way that I could when I was 18. But I can still understand it perfectly.

I suppose living in Swansea for your time at University was about as much use as 2 tits on a fish wasn't it? Hardly anyone can speak it down there.
Not in Swansea but go 10 miles towards Ammanford and it is pretty much Welsh speaking around there.

Funny thing though is that I have been called a 'saes' and the ones calling it (they do it in the way Bernard Manning talked about his Indian neighbour, 'oh you are allright, it is just the rest of them.) are no more Welsh than I am, they are usually of English or Irish descent and are amazed that I am only the second generation of my dad's family not to be native Welsh speakers - their Saes speaking pedigree goes back a lot farther. :TU:

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 17 Jun 2013, 05:14
by ILikeBeer
Wales wrote: I dont find us welsh arrogant, i think we know our place. Plucky underdogs happy with our language on road signs, cheese on toast as the national dish and ready to sing our way out of trouble wherever possible. 10,000 crazed zulus with spears? Not an issue, knock out bells of harlech and hope they eff off.
I never understood why Welsh people did that. Isn't it only spoken by about 2% of the country? I reckon they only do it to annoy visiting English people. :lol:

Re: Where has the British arrogance/self confidence come from

Posted: 17 Jun 2013, 06:34
by SamWise72
ILikeBeer wrote:
Wales wrote: I dont find us welsh arrogant, i think we know our place. Plucky underdogs happy with our language on road signs, cheese on toast as the national dish and ready to sing our way out of trouble wherever possible. 10,000 crazed zulus with spears? Not an issue, knock out bells of harlech and hope they eff off.
I never understood why Welsh people did that. Isn't it only spoken by about 2% of the country? I reckon they only do it to annoy visiting English people. :lol:
Sheer bloody mindedness :) When you cross from India into Nepal, the time changes by 15 minutes. There's no reason, they're at the same longtitude, but the Nepalese want to remind you that you're in a different country now. Same deal, I reckon! Croeso in Cymru, set your clock forward 3 min!