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earliest kinescope
Posted: 22 Jun 2013, 19:32
by evrenb
Other than the clip of louis vs conn 2 that appeared recently what is the earliest kinescope that survives?i know walcott vd charles 1 is early ...june 1949....any thoughts?
Re: earliest kinescope
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 00:26
by Brutu
Im not sure if a kinescope survives but
Joe Louis vrs Jersey Joe Walcott II
June 25 1948 Yankee Stadium, was also televised on NBC-TV and radio.
It was shown only in seven cities including
NYC,Boston,Schenectady,Philadelphia,Washington DC,Baltimore and Richmond.
Re: earliest kinescope
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 00:31
by Brutu
evrenb wrote:Other than the clip of louis vs conn 2 that appeared recently what is the earliest kinescope that survives?i know walcott vd charles 1 is early ...june 1949....any thoughts?
that link was to the video-tape of the official RKO fight film not the kinescope.
I haven't seen part of the kinescope mentioned since that 1949 NBC-TV documentary on kinescopes was taken off youtube a couple of years ago.
Re: earliest kinescope
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 00:47
by dempseyfire
evrenb wrote:Other than the clip of louis vs conn 2 that appeared recently what is the earliest kinescope that survives?i know walcott vd charles 1 is early ...june 1949....any thoughts?
I asked this same question in another thread and didn't get an answer. From what I know, the clip from Walcott-Charles I is the earliest surviving film of boxing on TV.
There are a handful of complete films of TV fights from the following year (1950), including Louis-Charles, Robinson-Dykes, Graziano-Burton, Fusari-Pellone, and Flood-Diamond.
Re: earliest kinescope
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 12:41
by Brutu
A kinescope was definateley made of Louis vrs Charles II June 25 1948.
According to the book FIGHT PICTURES by Dan Streible.
When the fight was being televised live on NBC-TV,
The Paramount theater on Times Square NYC,
The signal was transferred to 35 film and as the film was being developed the film was being projected onto a 24 foot theater screen where a audience of people of the television industry watched.
There was a 66 second delay between the live TV signal and watching it on the screen.
I think this is also how the kinescope of Louis vrs Conn II was made.
Both of these were originally viewed by TV production people.
The first"Commercial" closed-circuit boxing match
was Joe Louis vrs Lee Savold, in 1951 which was shown live at theaters in Nine differenant
cities.The TV signal by then was shown live on a theatre screen.
Maybe the NBC-TV archives still has these 35 mm kinescopes?