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I went to a FCC amateur MMA show last night
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 11:11
by Jeff Thomas
And it made an absolute mockery of boxing as a spectacle. I don't mean in terms of the fighting, I know some people abhor the sport but in terms of the way it was presented and the way the fans were updated.
21 (mixed) amateur and pro fights, there was alchohol at the bars, screens on the walls where you could view the action as it happened if you had a bad view.
They served food throughout the 21 bouts including pizza and wraps. They had a desk where you could buy merchandise and also the ring was full of sponsors and banners.
Boxing is so backward. This was an amateur show and it really did trump anything I've seen at a boxing show at any level.
The matches were 90% even, the £2 programme was very informative, had correct bill information, had interesting relevant articles and about 30 odd pages. Also some ads.
Every fight featured guys going for the win, everyone's record virtually matched and it was rammed busy. I don't envy British promoters, they have a very difficult job to do but last night was basically everything I've been saying for promoters in the uk to do for a long time.
Different class.
Re: I went to a FCC amateur MMA show last night
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 11:26
by standing8
Jeff Thomas wrote:And it made an absolute mockery of boxing as a spectacle. I don't mean in terms of the fighting, I know some people abhor the sport but in terms of the way it was presented and the way the fans were updated.
21 (mixed) amateur and pro fights, there was alchohol at the bars, screens on the walls where you could view the action as it happened if you had a bad view.
They served food throughout the 21 bouts including pizza and wraps. They had a desk where you could buy merchandise and also the ring was full of sponsors and banners.
Boxing is so backward. This was an amateur show and it really did trump anything I've seen at a boxing show at any level.
The matches were 90% even, the £2 programme was very informative, had correct bill information, had interesting relevant articles and about 30 odd pages. Also some ads.
Every fight featured guys going for the win, everyone's record virtually matched and it was rammed busy. I don't envy British promoters, they have a very difficult job to do but last night was basically everything I've been saying for promoters in the uk to do for a long time.
Different class.
A agree jeff, I think a 6 fight pro show, home fighters matched to win leaves a lot to be desired at £30, MMA ect shows bring differnet ideas and entertainment, when you pay journeymen £1000 for very liitle this leaves the poor promoter with little money to gamble on extra expense for other entertainment.
Start a campaign, £500 max to journeymen that are not selling tickets nor fights!!!!
140 loss career its not sport it match fixing!
Re: I went to a FCC amateur MMA show last night
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 12:07
by Jeff Thomas
I'd be an absolute hypocrite and liar if I said I always looked for hard fights but once I'd had one fight back I went in prize fighter, then I fought Wali who had a winning record, then Nathan Weise. I was serious and wanted to do things. I just wasn't good enough but my point is that these journeyman fights ruin the sport they aren't fun to watch at all.
Why not do this, allow amateurs and pros on the same shows. Put good local amateurs against each other and up and coming pros against each other. The money from the amateurs will pay for the show then the pros who are fighting fellow ticket sellars will also make a profit. Then the shows can start being less of an eyesore.
The reebok was RAMMED last night the only time I've ever seen it that busy is Steve woods jolly boys show and that's mostly because of the marvellous tits on show post boxing.
Re: I went to a FCC amateur MMA show last night
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 13:07
by arlovski
agree entirely, some of the Thai shows i've been to have been the same.
I know there's a lot of shite 'unlicensed' boxing taking place in workings mens clubs pitting local hardmen with zero skill against each other, but some of these boxing shows are starting to offer what you describe too.
Well run, bit of glitz and glamour, usually a decent high profile guest (Ray Leonard, Tyson, Benn i've seen), and crucially; competitive, well matched fights. Ok the skill level is not as high, but how many normal punters (not obsessed with boxing like most of us on here i would guess), actually care about the real technical nuances of a contest.
Most of my mates don't want to see to absolute raw novices swinging from the fences, but some 'semi pro/white collar/unlicensed' shows have lads boxing who are from that, many with amateur backgrounds who might not want to commit to the pro game but still want to box on well run and attended shows, a bit of cash is a bonus.
People say boxing is dying, but fight sports in this country are thriving, multiple shows every week all over the country, if that's making promoters work harder to offer better value for money, then it can't be a bad thing
Re: I went to a FCC amateur MMA show last night
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 15:22
by mickey1975
It's a vicious circle. The fighters have to pay the board, trainer and manager. The mma guys get about £200 worth of tickets with no overheads.
Re: I went to a FCC amateur MMA show last night
Posted: 23 Jun 2013, 15:24
by mickey1975
A friend of mine has sold over one hundred tickets for a boxing match on an mma show! They do what they want.