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Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:05
by lefty
Who really wants to see that?! I think it's complete mismatch.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:06
by TheCobra
No don't want to see that personally, would rather Burns takes on some big names at the weight, they need to get Burns some proper big fights now surely?

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:08
by lefty
TheCobra wrote:No don't want to see that personally, would rather Burns takes on some big names at the weight, they need to get Burns some proper big fights now surely?
Thats what i think. I get criticised for giving Hearn stick but he's putting on the same kind mismatches that FW gets slated for.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:08
by Horse
Crolla couldn't beat Mathews in two attempts.

Burns should not fight him.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:08
by gazza8
TheCobra wrote:No don't want to see that personally, would rather Burns takes on some big names at the weight, they need to get Burns some proper big fights now surely?

Agreed!

Crolla can fight Smith, Mitchel or even John Murray

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:23
by billy nelson
Anthony IMO got a lucky decision tonight and shouldn't be fighting for a world title, I'd rather Ricky fight Crawford in Glasgow or NY

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:24
by lefty
billy nelson wrote:Anthony IMO got a lucky decision tonight and shouldn't be fighting for a world title, I'd rather Ricky fight Crawford in Glasgow or NY
X2 Billy ..... ps Billy please have a word with Ricky so he doesnt agree to that fight.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:27
by Horse
billy nelson wrote:Anthony IMO got a lucky decision tonight and shouldn't be fighting for a world title, I'd rather Ricky fight Crawford in Glasgow or NY
:TU:

Vazquez or Abril would be far better than Crawford though.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:28
by lefty
Horse wrote:
billy nelson wrote:Anthony IMO got a lucky decision tonight and shouldn't be fighting for a world title, I'd rather Ricky fight Crawford in Glasgow or NY
:TU:

Vazquez or Abril would be far better than Crawford though.
Crawford is a big talent coming up though. He might not hold a belt but it's a good fight.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:29
by Horse
columbo wrote:Crawford is a big talent coming up though. He might not hold a belt but it's a good fight.
Of course, but not as good as a unification fight.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:30
by lefty
Horse wrote:
columbo wrote:Crawford is a big talent coming up though. He might not hold a belt but it's a good fight.
Of course, but not as good as a unification fight.
I agree. The problem is there's probably very little money in those fights whereas Crawford is being built up by HBO so it's good american tv money.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:31
by DMA1987
billy nelson wrote:Anthony IMO got a lucky decision tonight and shouldn't be fighting for a world title, I'd rather Ricky fight Crawford in Glasgow or NY
Your boy Burns had him '3 or 4' rounds up.

But it is a mis-match, and Crolla doesn't deserve the shot - yet. I want bigger things for Ricky than Crolla.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:32
by ashedward
columbo wrote:
TheCobra wrote:No don't want to see that personally, would rather Burns takes on some big names at the weight, they need to get Burns some proper big fights now surely?
Thats what i think. I get criticised for giving Hearn stick but he's putting on the same kind mismatches that FW gets slated for.
Good card tonight will have to wait and see if the Crolla fight happens I don`t wan`t it too and that would be a wazza type fight.Which fights has Hearn put on lately has been a mismatch ?The Groves keep busy fight could be classed as that but no mainevent lately could be classed as that and Barker dealt with his last two fights well but I wouldn`t of called them mismatches on paper beforehand.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:38
by lefty
ashedward wrote:
columbo wrote:
TheCobra wrote:No don't want to see that personally, would rather Burns takes on some big names at the weight, they need to get Burns some proper big fights now surely?
Thats what i think. I get criticised for giving Hearn stick but he's putting on the same kind mismatches that FW gets slated for.
Good card tonight will have to wait and see if the Crolla fight happens I don`t wan`t it too and that would be a wazza type fight.Which fights has Hearn put on lately has been a mismatch ?
Silly question as I could list a number of prospects fights which happen on any promotion. Aside from that Id say the guy Quigg fought tonight wasnt upto much and the guy Rose fought wasnt great.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:41
by ashedward
Thats what i think. I get criticised for giving Hearn stick but he's putting on the same kind mismatches that FW gets slated for.[/quote]
Good card tonight will have to wait and see if the Crolla fight happens I don`t wan`t it too and that would be a wazza type fight.Which fights has Hearn put on lately has been a mismatch ?[/quote]
Silly question as I could list a number of prospects fights which happen on any promotion. Aside from that Id say the guy Quigg fought tonight wasnt upto much and the guy Rose fought wasnt great.[/quote]
I have edited my post above I`m talking about main event fights not undercard fights on show which were a success.Rose ended up in a competitive fight so no mismatch there and Quigg put in a special performance and Prado could take someone like Glaahad the distance

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:42
by lefty
ashedward wrote:Thats what i think. I get criticised for giving Hearn stick but he's putting on the same kind mismatches that FW gets slated for.
Good card tonight will have to wait and see if the Crolla fight happens I don`t wan`t it too and that would be a wazza type fight.Which fights has Hearn put on lately has been a mismatch ?[/quote]
Silly question as I could list a number of prospects fights which happen on any promotion. Aside from that Id say the guy Quigg fought tonight wasnt upto much and the guy Rose fought wasnt great.[/quote]
I have edited my post above I`m talking about main event fights not undercard fights on show which were a sucess.[/quote]
Id already written my post before you had edited it mate :TU:

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:47
by ashedward
columbo wrote:
ashedward wrote:Thats what i think. I get criticised for giving Hearn stick but he's putting on the same kind mismatches that FW gets slated for.
Good card tonight will have to wait and see if the Crolla fight happens I don`t wan`t it too and that would be a wazza type fight.Which fights has Hearn put on lately has been a mismatch ?
Silly question as I could list a number of prospects fights which happen on any promotion. Aside from that Id say the guy Quigg fought tonight wasnt upto much and the guy Rose fought wasnt great.[/quote]
I have edited my post above I`m talking about main event fights not undercard fights on show which were a sucess.[/quote]
Id already written my post before you had edited it mate :TU:[/quote]
Fairplay mate

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:49
by iamasadlittleboy
Bugger the unification bouts (for now). Burns v Vazquez or Abril would be interesting for the standing of the division but dour things to watch (though Burns v the Figueroa/Arakawa winner would be good). Get Burns v Linares on an American undercard to help raise the profile of Ricky, then the Figueroa/Arakawa winner THEN one of the two other champions.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:50
by lefty
ashedward wrote:
columbo wrote:
ashedward wrote:Thats what i think. I get criticised for giving Hearn stick but he's putting on the same kind mismatches that FW gets slated for.
Good card tonight will have to wait and see if the Crolla fight happens I don`t wan`t it too and that would be a wazza type fight.Which fights has Hearn put on lately has been a mismatch ?
Silly question as I could list a number of prospects fights which happen on any promotion. Aside from that Id say the guy Quigg fought tonight wasnt upto much and the guy Rose fought wasnt great.
I have edited my post above I`m talking about main event fights not undercard fights on show which were a sucess.[/quote]
Id already written my post before you had edited it mate :TU:[/quote]
Fairplay mate[/quote]
I know I give Hearn stick on here but I just feel let down with some of the matches made. When he came into boxing he made a lot of promises of how he wanted to change boxing and make 50-50 fights and make boxing mainstream again. I just dont feel like he's living upto his promises at the moment. FW has put a lot of shit on over the years aswell I dont deny it.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:51
by lefty
iamasadlittleboy wrote:Bugger the unification bouts (for now). Burns v Vazquez or Abril would be interesting for the standing of the division but dour things to watch (though Burns v the Figueroa/Arakawa winner would be good). Get Burns v Linares on an American undercard to help raise the profile of Ricky, then the Figueroa/Arakawa winner THEN one of the two other champions.
Linares would be a bloody tough fight! I know he's lost against the likes of Demarco and other lesser fighters but he has a lot of talent. He just seems to cut easily and have a somewhat suspect chin.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:57
by iamasadlittleboy
columbo wrote:
iamasadlittleboy wrote:Bugger the unification bouts (for now). Burns v Vazquez or Abril would be interesting for the standing of the division but dour things to watch (though Burns v the Figueroa/Arakawa winner would be good). Get Burns v Linares on an American undercard to help raise the profile of Ricky, then the Figueroa/Arakawa winner THEN one of the two other champions.
Linares would be a bloody tough fight! I know he's lost against the likes of Demarco and other lesser fighters but he has a lot of talent. He just seems to cut easily and have a somewhat suspect chin.
It'd be tough, high profile, more fun to watch than the Vazquez/Abril bouts and most importantly very credible.

Those "lesser" fighters aren't really that lesser though, Thompson for example is fighting Takashi Miura in August for a Super Featherweight strap, DeMarco well has was the WBC title holder and Salgado is a 2 time champion.

Actually, Burns v DeMarco could be another "good sell" for US TV.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:59
by lefty
iamasadlittleboy wrote:
columbo wrote:
iamasadlittleboy wrote:Bugger the unification bouts (for now). Burns v Vazquez or Abril would be interesting for the standing of the division but dour things to watch (though Burns v the Figueroa/Arakawa winner would be good). Get Burns v Linares on an American undercard to help raise the profile of Ricky, then the Figueroa/Arakawa winner THEN one of the two other champions.
Linares would be a bloody tough fight! I know he's lost against the likes of Demarco and other lesser fighters but he has a lot of talent. He just seems to cut easily and have a somewhat suspect chin.
It'd be tough, high profile, more fun to watch than the Vazquez/Abril bouts and most importantly very credible.

Those "lesser" fighters aren't really that lesser though, Thompson for example is fighting Takashi Miura in August for a Super Featherweight strap, DeMarco well has was the WBC title holder and Salgado is a 2 time champion.

Actually, Burns v DeMarco could be another "good sell" for US TV.
I was hoping for Burns vs Demarco for september.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 19:59
by DMA1987
columbo wrote: Id already written my post before you had edited it mate :TU:
He doesn't main event uneven-ly in most cases (unless its a final eliminator).

Rees v Crolla
Froch v Kessler
Burns v Gonzalez
Rose v Alcine

All very even main event fights.

He got Brook the title shot v Alexander until the injury. Barker is fighting Geale for a world title. Froch will end up in another mega-fight. Bellew is facing Stevenson.

Its not bad. Especially for his first full year with the TV contract.

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 20:00
by DMA1987
Also don't forget Barker v Martinez, Rees v Broner, Frampton v Martinez, etc

Re: Burns vs Crolla

Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 20:00
by ashedward
Good card tonight will have to wait and see if the Crolla fight happens I don`t wan`t it too and that would be a wazza type fight.Which fights has Hearn put on lately has been a mismatch ?[/quote]
Silly question as I could list a number of prospects fights which happen on any promotion. Aside from that Id say the guy Quigg fought tonight wasnt upto much and the guy Rose fought wasnt great.[/quote]
I have edited my post above I`m talking about main event fights not undercard fights on show which were a sucess.[/quote]
Id already written my post before you had edited it mate :TU:[/quote]
Fairplay mate[/quote]
I know I give Hearn stick on here but I just feel let down with some of the matches made. When he came into boxing he made a lot of promises of how he wanted to change boxing and make 50-50 fights and make boxing mainstream again. I just dont feel like he's living upto his promises at the moment. FW has put a lot of poo on over the years aswell I dont deny it.[/quote]
Fair enough mate he`s defintly not living up to all his promises I never thought he would, but most main events are competative,.I think he has made some good shows but I agree Burns-Crolla would be poor,I think Eddie is eyeing to put that on the next froch bill so he can say there are two World title fight on the card to sell a ppv and I think Froch will fight Groves and I`m not sure even with a deep undercard that would be ppv worthy but I see it happening