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Hey guys, just wondering what u guys think of Gennady Golovkin ? he looks unstoppable, accurate, heavy handed,cheers, hearing a rumour he might be fighting Peter quillin next

He definitely proved himself today imo, he looked the business.

GGG vs Quillin would be a great match up.

Its not like we didn't think Macklin was getting KTFO. Anyone can look impressive with a tailor made opponent.
He needs to beat guys like Chavez Jr - Vera or Rubio like he did Macklin for me too see if he is the truth. As for fighting Quillin - I doubt it will happen. Quillin will price himself out of it and remain the pussy he is.

he eats thunder n craps lightning.

He's gonna probably end a few careers. now we know why a certain Australian middleweight didn't go to p urse bids with him a few years ago

Macklin is a decent opponent, better than Vera or Rubio IMO.

I wasn't convinced of GGG but after that oerformance I think he is pretty awesome.

Woiuld like to see him in with , Chavez Jr, Geale, Martinez, Quillin or even Murray before I get as excited as others tho.

nobody really thought macklin had a chance before the fight, so its not exactly a shock that he was beaten like that.

Oldman Ouma slapped this kids face for 10 rounds and took 3G's best punches before a premature stoppage. There is no doubting 3G's talent but come on everything about Macklin was suited for 3G to KO his ass, It was just a matter of what round. Golovkin even stated it himself calling it a regular fight.

TBH i think 3G would have trouble beating Soliman let alone Rubio.

convict wrote:Oldman Ouma slapped this kids face for 10 rounds and took 3G's best punches before a premature stoppage. There is no doubting 3G's talent but come on everything about Macklin was suited for 3G to KO his ass, It was just a matter of what round. Golovkin even stated it himself calling it a regular fight.

TBH i think 3G would have trouble beating Soliman let alone Rubio.

GGG would punish Soliman. Mundine splattered Sam, it wouldn't be pretty

thunderfromdownunder wrote:

convict wrote:Oldman Ouma slapped this kids face for 10 rounds and took 3G's best punches before a premature stoppage. There is no doubting 3G's talent but come on everything about Macklin was suited for 3G to KO his ass, It was just a matter of what round. Golovkin even stated it himself calling it a regular fight.

TBH i think 3G would have trouble beating Soliman let alone Rubio.

GGG would punish Soliman. Mundine splattered Sam, it wouldn't be pretty

Ouma and Rosado hit 3G way to many times, In fact they hit him with ease - Thing is one stood toe-2-toe and the other was just to dumb to know better.
3G has not changed his style, Sam is way harder to hit then those two, And i think he would do well against Queen G. Im not saying he would win but i am sure he would make 3G look shit.

BTW i dont get it with Mundine beating Sam? So what.

Like geale and Martinez, Sam would prove a problem for GGG. His movement alone would give him fits. Sam is in the upper echelon of middleweights based on his last performance, Mundine no longer is. So the bouts between them I think are quite irrelevant. Sam is much more aggressive than he was against Choc. GGG, Martinez or geale would all be in for a tough night with Sam.....not saying he would win any of them, but he would have a crack.

thunderfromdownunder wrote:

convict wrote:Oldman Ouma slapped this kids face for 10 rounds and took 3G's best punches before a premature stoppage. There is no doubting 3G's talent but come on everything about Macklin was suited for 3G to KO his ass, It was just a matter of what round. Golovkin even stated it himself calling it a regular fight.

TBH i think 3G would have trouble beating Soliman let alone Rubio.

GGG would punish Soliman. Mundine splattered Sam, it wouldn't be pretty

Soliman has been in wars with some pretty rough blokes and if he can perform like he did against Sturm style wise it would be a good fight.

convict wrote:Oldman Ouma slapped this kids face for 10 rounds and took 3G's best punches before a premature stoppage. There is no doubting 3G's talent but come on everything about Macklin was suited for 3G to KO his ass, It was just a matter of what round. Golovkin even stated it himself calling it a regular fight.

TBH i think 3G would have trouble beating Soliman let alone Rubio.

Great effort by Ouma. He fought well above himself against GGG. Took a lot out of him, hasn't fought since.
The southpaw stance didn't suit Golovkin at all. He had to work hard to grind out the stoppage.
Panama's humidity could also have been a factor.
Six stoppages since that fight show he's right on track.
I like Rubio, I'd back him to beat Geale, Mundine and Soliman.
I'd back Golovkin to stop all four.

The Raw Prawn wrote:

convict wrote:Oldman Ouma slapped this kids face for 10 rounds and took 3G's best punches before a premature stoppage. There is no doubting 3G's talent but come on everything about Macklin was suited for 3G to KO his ass, It was just a matter of what round. Golovkin even stated it himself calling it a regular fight.

TBH i think 3G would have trouble beating Soliman let alone Rubio.

Great effort by Ouma. He fought well above himself against GGG. Took a lot out of him, hasn't fought since.
The southpaw stance didn't suit Golovkin at all. He had to work hard to grind out the stoppage.
Panama's humidity could also have been a factor.
Six stoppages since that fight show he's right on track.
I like Rubio, I'd back him to beat Geale, Mundine and Soliman.
I'd back Golovkin to stop all four.

Old man Ouma was shot,lost 6 of his last 7 fights. Took the fight with 4 weeks notice until it was shifted to June then he had 6 weeks. He was fighting a younger guy in the same heat/humidity and was very close to beating 3G going toe to toe - if not for the ref to premature stop the fight.

Rosado was doing the same thing but as you can see he was to young and inexperienced to follow through with his corners instructions.

This is why i kinda think Soliman would have a chance.

The Raw Prawn wrote:

convict wrote:Oldman Ouma slapped this kids face for 10 rounds and took 3G's best punches before a premature stoppage. There is no doubting 3G's talent but come on everything about Macklin was suited for 3G to KO his ass, It was just a matter of what round. Golovkin even stated it himself calling it a regular fight.

TBH i think 3G would have trouble beating Soliman let alone Rubio.

Great effort by Ouma. He fought well above himself against GGG. Took a lot out of him, hasn't fought since.
The southpaw stance didn't suit Golovkin at all. He had to work hard to grind out the stoppage.
Panama's humidity could also have been a factor.
Six stoppages since that fight show he's right on track.
I like Rubio, I'd back him to beat Geale, Mundine and Soliman.
I'd back Golovkin to stop all four.

Old man Ouma was shot,lost 6 of his last 7 fights. Took the fight with 4 weeks notice until it was shifted to June then he had 6 weeks. He was fighting a younger guy in the same heat/humidity and was very close to beating 3G going toe to toe - if not for the ref to premature stop the fight.

Rosado was doing the same thing but as you can see he was to young and inexperienced to follow through with his corners instructions.

This is why i kinda think Soliman would have a chance.

convict wrote:

The Raw Prawn wrote:

convict wrote:Oldman Ouma slapped this kids face for 10 rounds and took 3G's best punches before a premature stoppage. There is no doubting 3G's talent but come on everything about Macklin was suited for 3G to KO his ass, It was just a matter of what round. Golovkin even stated it himself calling it a regular fight.

TBH i think 3G would have trouble beating Soliman let alone Rubio.

Great effort by Ouma. He fought well above himself against GGG. Took a lot out of him, hasn't fought since.
The southpaw stance didn't suit Golovkin at all. He had to work hard to grind out the stoppage.
Panama's humidity could also have been a factor.
Six stoppages since that fight show he's right on track.
I like Rubio, I'd back him to beat Geale, Mundine and Soliman.
I'd back Golovkin to stop all four.

Old man Ouma was shot,lost 6 of his last 7 fights. Took the fight with 4 weeks notice until it was shifted to June then he had 6 weeks. He was fighting a younger guy in the same heat/humidity and was very close to beating 3G going toe to toe - if not for the ref to premature stop the fight.

Rosado was doing the same thing but as you can see he was to young and inexperienced to follow through with his corners instructions.

When and how was Ouma close to winning, rather than simply doing well?

While Ouma gave a commendable effort and did well early, he was dominated in the last few rounds, his eyes were nearly shut, and he was hurt and took many unanswered blows in the bout's final sequence. Nothing suggests he was coming on or would've gotten the better of GGG had it continued; if you think otherwise you've reversed Ouma's success trajectory and should re-watch the bout. Ouma was also hospitalized following the bout, as the ringside doctor—who checked him several times as he began slowing markedly—suspected brain-bleeding due to his reaction immediately after being stopped, and he has not fought again.

Since knocking out Ouma, GGG has beaten equal or superior opposition either impressively or without comparable problems. Macklin, for example, deserved to beat Sturm according to most; was on virtually level terms with Martinez for 11 rounds unlike Chavez; had just won by first round KO over a former title-holder coming off a career-best win; and was generally considered a top 6/7 MW, unlike Rubio or Vera, who don't have a comparable body of performances against high-level opponents. Throughout most of these and his other wins, Macklin also showed in-fighting and durability comparable of superior to that showed by Vera or Rubio. Yet GGG outclassed Macklin immediately, stopped him heavily, and won far more easily than Sturm or Martinez did. I think that and other performances suggest the Ouma performance was an exception, just as Geale being heavily dropped twice and nearly stopped by 21-15 Nonoy Gonzalez was an exception.

Rosado, who according to CompuBox landed at a very low 22 percent, moved backward and laterally from the first bell and never used the come forward, close-range strategy Ouma did. He was still dominated, suffered horrific facial injuries, and was stopped without winning a round on most cards. In my view, you're really stretching if you think the Rosado fight suggests that fighters like Soliman, Rubio, and Vera would have a good chance of beating GGG.

Are you for real? Where did i say they would beat 3G?, I said they would give him a great fight. And i don't need to watch the fight (Ouma Vs 3G) again to see 3G's face was battered just as bad as the shot Ouma.

And any argument on how good Macklin was, Then being destroyed is simply answered as he was tailor made for 3G to KO - The whole world knew this. Where as Rubio/Soliman - Vera and even Sergio Mora would give him issues with there styles. 3G likes to bullie fighters and cut the ring off - When this does not happen he looks crud and gets hit big time.

There is no doubting his greatness in the ring, But even Mundine looks great against hand picked tailor made opponents. Until he fights someone worthy i will be doubting he can beat the top guys in the middle weight or S/M weight division.
But that just might be the main argument here - Who is willing to step up and fight this guy.

Are you for real? Where did i say they would beat 3G?, I said they would give him a great fight. And i don't need to watch the fight (Ouma Vs 3G) again to see 3G's face was battered just as bad as the shot Ouma.

Yes, I am for real. Are you for real with your highly distorted account of Golovkin-Ouma? You also failed to answer when and how Ouma was close to winning the bout, rather than simply doing well. By the way, Golovkin wasn't as badly marked up as Ouma was, his eyes weren't nearly closed like Ouma's were, and it wasn't suspected that his brain was bleeding as was suspected of Ouma's.

I never claimed that you believe certain fighters would beat GGG. You mentioned Rubio, Vera, Soliman, etc as possible opponents and criticized GGG's performances against Rosado and Ouma, and I'm suggesting that you shouldn't give the former trio a good chance of beating GGG due to his performances against the latter pair, not that you actually are, though it doesn't seem far off given your assertion that he'd struggle to beat Rubio and Soliman.

And any argument on how good Macklin was, Then being destroyed is simply answered as he was tailor made for 3G to KO - The whole world knew this. Where as Rubio/Soliman - Vera and even Sergio Mora would give him issues with there styles. 3G likes to bullie fighters and cut the ring off - When this does not happen he looks crud and gets hit big time.

This is very poor reasoning. You're suggesting that we can infer that Macklin is limited because he lost to GGG, but it could just as easily be that he's very good and lost because GGG is great. Employing your reasoning could also lead us to conclude that it means little if GGG easily stops Rubio, Vera, and Soliman, because if he beats them as such they must not have been that good anyway.

That GGG was such a favorite over someone who arguably beat Sturm and fought evenly with Martinez suggests that most people think he's capable of beating world class fighters who gave the division's best very tough fights. Additionally, while most favored GGG, many and possibly most thought Macklin would test him and give him problems before losing. By stopping Macklin so quickly and easily, GGG surpassed most expectations and he did not fail to meet any reasonable expectations.

I'm also not sure why you think fighters such as Rubio, Vera, and Soliman would be tests. Rubio and Vera, in addition to frequently struggling with mediocre opponents, are straight ahead fighters with similar styles as Macklin's; please enlighten me as to what Rubio and Vera do that Macklin doesn't, and how this would cause GGG problems. I think it's more likely that Golovkin flourishes than struggles with fighters who stand in front of him and trade as Rubio and Vera do.

Soliman and Mora have awkward and unique styles, but that doesn't mean GGG would be troubled by them; he cuts off the ring effectively and has easily defeated every 'mover' he's faced. Moreover, you first claim that Vera and Rubio, straight-ahead fighters with a proclivity for brawling, have the styles to trouble GGG and then you claim that movers like Mora also have the style to trouble GGG. If that's the case, what type of style wouldn't likely trouble GGG in your view?

There is no doubting his greatness in the ring, But even Mundine looks great against hand picked tailor made opponents. Until he fights someone worthy i will be doubting he can beat the top guys in the middle weight or S/M weight division.But that just might be the main argument here - Who is willing to step up and fight this guy.

If Macklin is unworthy I fail to see how fighters such as Soliman, Vera, Mora, and Rubio are worthy. I also fail to see how anyone but Martinez and possibly Geale and Chavez are worthy, but if the only worthy fighters are the best middleweights you must hold that unless GGG beats a top middleweight, you'll doubt if he can do so. I think that's an excessively strong position that ignores how GGG beat several opponents (e.g. Simon, Ishida, Macklin) far more easily than the top middleweights who fought them did, and that some of those (e.g. Chavez) arguably among the best in the division don't have a win over a top middleweight either.

Within the past two years Macklin deserved to beat Sturm, he dropped and fought Martinez evenly for 10 rounds, and he knocked out former titlist Joachim Alcine in one round, even though Alcine had just scored a career-best win; he did very well against some of the best fighters in the division, and he was accordingly considered a top 5-7 middleweight by most entering the bout with GGG. Rubio, Vera, Mora, and Soliman aren't ranked as such, and they don't deserve to be. If you think they are more worthy than Macklin, please explain why; if they aren't, GGG beating them won't suggest to you that he can beat the best in the division, so why keep mentioning them?

I think you underestimate these fighters. First you say The weather/Humidity bla bla bulldust. Then you back track to something else.
If Ouma had more then 4 weeks notice and was not a shot fighter and just for your sake the fight was in Canada does Ouma lose in 3 rds?.

I remember Ricki Hatton's style that just hammed Kostya Tszyu. For you to think and some what in denial thought that come forward fighters or awkward style fighters have no chance against 3G then you have issues if you cant work that out.

Macklin was never a champion period. 3G called it a regular fight,The whole world called it as such and Macklin's style was/is suited for him to get KO'ed by 3G. He offered nothing new except a name.

Blow as much wind up 3G ass as you want, Analyse/break down stuff as much as you want. Fact is 3G has never been in with a Bullie/come forward/awkward fighter's still in there prime yet. That is why i doubt he would beat those (Soliman/Rubio etc)fighters in 3 rounds as he did Macklin.

they all get beat.

its what they do in their careers that is what they are judged by. ggg will get beat. probably beaten by what history will decide are lesser fighters...like tszu and hatton.

but ggg is going to be great to watch. lets hope he gets the fights we want to see, and stays active. it is inactivity and poor matchups thats fornicating boxing...

I think you underestimate these fighters. First you say The weather/Humidity bla bla bulldust. Then you back track to something else.If Ouma had more then 4 weeks notice and was not a shot fighter and just for your sake the fight was in Canada does Ouma lose in 3 rds?.

I never addressed the weather or humidity and I never made excuses for GGG's performance against Ouma, so I find this part of your post very odd.

I doubt the fight would've unfolded much differently had it occurred in Canada.

I remember Ricki Hatton's style that just hammed Kostya Tszyu. For you to think and some what in denial thought that come forward fighters or awkward style fighters have no chance against 3G then you have issues if you cant work that out.

I never opined that 'come forward fighters or awkward style fighters' stand no chance against GGG. I hold that he doesn't necessarily struggle with those styles, especially the former, and you still haven't presented strong reasoning as to why those styles would be particularly troublesome for him.

Regarding the mentioned opponents, Rubio and Vera aren't stylistically much different from Macklin and they are far less proven against top opponents. I'm not sure why you think they're more difficult opponents than Macklin, and you've failed to explain what they offer that Macklin doesn't. Mora and Soliman have unusual styles, but I fail to see reason to suspect that this would greatly trouble a fighter of GGG's caliber.

Macklin was never a champion period. 3G called it a regular fight,The whole world called it as such and Macklin's style was/is suited for him to get KO'ed by 3G. He offered nothing new except a name.

So what if Macklin wasn't an alphabet champion? He deserved to beat Sturm as much as Geale did and fought on even terms with Martinez for 10 rounds. These performances showed that he's capable of competing evenly with some of the best fighters in the division, something which cannot be said of GGG's previous opponents, and he rightfully earned a spot inside the top 10 as a result.

That most people expected a GGG win reflects the widespread sentiment that he's an excellent fighter, not that Macklin is a limited fighter. Most people also thought Macklin was a step-up for GGG and expected the fight to be among his toughest. He exceeded these expectations in style, and destroyed someone who greatly troubled the division's lineal champion and top-ranked fighter two matches before.

Blow as much wind up 3G ass as you want, Analyse/break down stuff as much as you want. Fact is 3G has never been in with a Bullie/come forward/awkward fighter's still in there prime yet. That is why i doubt he would beat those (Soliman/Rubio etc)fighters in 3 rounds as he did Macklin

Macklin is very much a 'Bullie' type fighter; perhaps you should watch his bouts with Sturm, Alcine, Asikanen, and other opponents.

Not fighting many opponents with a certain style doesn't mean a fighter has problems with that style. When you state that GGG would likely have great problems beating fighters such as Rubio, Vera, and Soliman, you're making the unwarranted leap from the fact that he hasn't fought many opponents with the same styles to the conclusion that he cannot effectively deal with those styles.

Now, I understand why you'd be hesitant to predict that GGG would KO some of the mentioned opponents as quickly as he KOd Macklin, but that wasn't your initial argument; you argued that GGG would likely struggle to beat those opponents, and in my view that position is unwarranted based on available evidence.

Ok to be efficient in what i am getting to, I,ll break it down to this:

3G won 3 rounds against Ouma before the headbutting of 3G took its tole on Ouma. Here are the high lights to prove it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSPgaSKCr8U

Ouma is/was a light middle weight, Was a shot fighter and was winning that fight besides the last 3 rounds that were close. Ouma went 10 rounds and the ref stopped it. Bleeding on the brain was not true - A interview on boxingtalk stated such.

Rosado is/was a light middle weight and when he went forwards he landed leather on 3G no problem, He was to inexperienced to follow threw with the game plan, Ref stop the fight in the 7rd because he was just running.

Macklin who fought at middle weight before this fight, Did nothing but back tracked and got KOed in 3. Whats that say about Rosado and Ouma?

Thing is 3G looks lost and fights dirty when going backward. He throws rabbit punches and headbutts which show signs he is limited in that way.

Shame Rubio has a date with Martinez, Vera is fighting Chavez Jr. Soliman is on his own mission and Geale is booked out for 2 fights. HBO prob wouldn't be able to sell Mora Vs 3G. And Quillin likes to price himself out. So there is no argument left here for me - only agreement is that 3G needs a descent fight soon.

convict wrote:Ok to be efficient in what i am getting to, I,ll break it down to this:

3G won 3 rounds against Ouma before the headbutting of 3G took its tole on Ouma. Here are the high lights to prove it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSPgaSKCr8U

Ouma is/was a light middle weight, Was a shot fighter and was winning that fight besides the last 3 rounds that were close. Ouma went 10 rounds and the ref stopped it. Bleeding on the brain was not true - A interview on boxingtalk stated such.

Rosado is/was a light middle weight and when he went forwards he landed leather on 3G no problem, He was to inexperienced to follow threw with the game plan, Ref stop the fight in the 7rd because he was just running.

Macklin who fought at middle weight before this fight, Did nothing but back tracked and got KOed in 3. Whats that say about Rosado and Ouma?

Thing is 3G looks lost and fights dirty when going backward. He throws rabbit punches and headbutts which show signs he is limited in that way.

Shame Rubio has a date with Martinez, Vera is fighting Chavez Jr. Soliman is on his own mission and Geale is booked out for 2 fights. HBO prob wouldn't be able to sell Mora Vs 3G. And Quillin likes to price himself out. So there is no argument left here for me - only agreement is that 3G needs a descent fight soon.

If you go over any great fighters history, you will find that early on in their career they struggled with lesser opposition. You had Ali being knocked down by Cooper (press saying he is no chance against Liston), you had Mike Tyson struggling a little with Mitch Green, Larry Holmes being knocked down by Snipes, Hopkins having that tough draw with that fighter I now forget his name (even being knocked down).

Maybe not the best examples, but you get my point. You can't right off a guys career because of one fight earlier on (which he won anyway, which shows good heart under pressure)


I have to agree with crusader here

And I'm also on the GGG bandwagon. I think he can clean up the division, and provide some awesome fights. Just hope like someone else mentioned that he fights the best in the division, not wait 5 years until he is past his best. The guys in peak prime now, and at 31 I want to see those fights against the top 5, while he is still in his prime.

3G won 3 rounds against Ouma before the headbutting of 3G took its tole on Ouma. Here are the high lights to prove it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSPgaSKCr8U

Ouma is/was a light middle weight, Was a shot fighter and was winning that fight besides the last 3 rounds that were close. Ouma went 10 rounds and the ref stopped it. Bleeding on the brain was not true - A interview on boxingtalk stated such.

Ouma may have won three rounds overall, but he was not winning the fight. He also slowed considerably in the last few rounds and nothing suggests he was going to improve or that GGG would slow to the extent that they'd be fighting on even terms, so had the bout gone the distance GGG would've probably won the final three rounds. In that case, I don't see any way Ouma could be given more than 4 rounds.

I never claimed that Ouma had a brain-bleed, but his condition immediately following the bout was such that the doctor suspected he may have. If he was showing symptoms of a brain-bleed, it's likely that he was absorbed great punishment and would've been unfit to continue even if his condition wasn't that serious. Moreover, the doctor checked him several times during the bout to ensure that he was fit to continue, suggesting that he thought Ouma's health may have been jeopardized by the punishment he was taking. None of this, nor Ouma's shut eyes, nor his staggering and failure to respond in the bout's ending sequence, comports with your account of the bout as a contest Ouma was on the verge of winning until an unjust stoppage.

Rosado is/was a light middle weight and when he went forwards he landed leather on 3G no problem, He was to inexperienced to follow threw with the game plan, Ref stop the fight in the 7rd because he was just running.

Macklin who fought at middle weight before this fight, Did nothing but back tracked and got KOed in 3. Whats that say about Rosado and Ouma?

Rosado's connect ratio was listed at a measly 22 percent and you're greatly exaggerating how easily he connected. Sure, he landed some good punches, but he was largely inaccurate regardless of his direction of movement. GGG also won every round, turned Rosado into a bloody mess, and punished Rosado to the extent that Rosado's trainer yelled in the corner immediately before throwing in the towel that his fighter would die if the bout weren't stopped. That suggests the bout was stopped because a fighter was being pummelled, not because they were running.

Macklin generally tried to box and move but he went after GGG in the third round, landing nothing significant and being knocked off-balance with a right hand. He had no success against GGG regardless of his approach, even though he enjoyed great success against Sturm and Martinez, at least one of which I assume you consider a top MW. That he was dominated as such doesn't mean that he was not as good as Rosado or Ouma; given that within the past two years Macklin has fought very well against world-class opponents and Rosado and Ouma didn't have comparable success, the fight provides evidence that GGG was better than he was against Ouma and sharper than he was against Rosado.

Thing is 3G looks lost and fights dirty when going backward. He throws rabbit punches and headbutts which show signs he is limited in that way.

I don't think GGG has ever seemed lost, and the only time he's looked troubled was against Ouma. He may or may not have used illegal tactics, but that doesn't mean he cannot effectively fight on the back foot; he may fight well on the back foot, but not as well as he does on the front foot, and illegal tactics could be a means of forcing opponents backwards and into a more desirable type of fight for him.

Shame Rubio has a date with Martinez, Vera is fighting Chavez Jr. Soliman is on his own mission and Geale is booked out for 2 fights. HBO prob wouldn't be able to sell Mora Vs 3G. And Quillin likes to price himself out. So there is no argument left here for me - only agreement is that 3G needs a descent fight soon.

He will likely fight Murray, who many had beating the man generally ranked #1 in the division. If GGG wins convincingly, will you believe he can defeat the best in the division, as Murray almost did, or will you still doubt that?

He is the spit of Kostya Tsyzu in style. Not unbeatable, but it will take a special fighter to crack him.

convict wrote:

The Raw Prawn wrote:

convict wrote:Oldman Ouma slapped this kids face for 10 rounds and took 3G's best punches before a premature stoppage. There is no doubting 3G's talent but come on everything about Macklin was suited for 3G to KO his ass, It was just a matter of what round. Golovkin even stated it himself calling it a regular fight.

TBH i think 3G would have trouble beating Soliman let alone Rubio.

Great effort by Ouma. He fought well above himself against GGG. Took a lot out of him, hasn't fought since.
The southpaw stance didn't suit Golovkin at all. He had to work hard to grind out the stoppage.
Panama's humidity could also have been a factor.
Six stoppages since that fight show he's right on track.
I like Rubio, I'd back him to beat Geale, Mundine and Soliman.
I'd back Golovkin to stop all four.

Old man Ouma was shot,lost 6 of his last 7 fights. Took the fight with 4 weeks notice until it was shifted to June then he had 6 weeks. He was fighting a younger guy in the same heat/humidity and was very close to beating 3G going toe to toe - if not for the ref to premature stop the fight.

Rosado was doing the same thing but as you can see he was to young and inexperienced to follow through with his corners instructions.

This is why i kinda think Soliman would have a chance.

Ouma was the first GGG fight I streamed live, and I failed to see what the hype was all about. But you must have been on Team Lebedev to think that was a premature stoppage. That was way late, Ouma was getting murdered. It's no coincidence he hasn't fought again. Here's from Graham Houston:

http://www.fightwriter.com/saul-alvarez ... assim-ouma

By the eighth round, honestly I had seen enough. Ouma was swollen and damaged under both eyes and there was blood inside his mouth. The ringside doctor checked on Ouma at the end of the eighth. Ouma is so brave that he will never surrender, but the ninth and 10th rounds were brutal to watch. Referee Guillermo Perez Pineda finally, belatedly, waved the finish as a tired and dazed Ouma sagged against the ropes with 63 seconds remaining in the 10th round.

It was worrying to watch Ouma take the punishment that he did. Laurence Cole was criticised for letting a beaten-up Antonio Margarito complete the course against Manny Pacquiao when the fight could have been stopped after the 10th round, but good-hearted Manny eased off towards the end and although he was popping quick punches into Margarito’s swollen countenance in the 11th and 12th rounds he wasn’t really blasting him with hard shots. In the Golovkin-Ouma fight, though, the former world amateur champion from Kazakhstan was hitting Ouma with wrecking-ball blows. It was a relief when the fight was stopped — I would have felt a sense of relief if Ouma had been pulled out of the fight in the ninth round; Ouma didn’t need an extra round of getting pounded and it was not a surprise to read the next day that he had been detained in hospital overnight for observation.