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Mark Prince

Posted: 02 Jul 2013, 12:39
by JamesH
Licence granted, Mark is expecting to fight in August in Germany, and then again in October at Wembley Arena.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 02 Jul 2013, 12:49
by keithmoonhangover
Great to see him being given the opportunity. The last thing a fighter loses is his punch and Mark has always hit damn hard. There are similarities with Foreman's comeback, a long gap after retiring fairly close to his prime. I for one am really looking forward to it.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 02 Jul 2013, 13:45
by hurlock
He could deffo do somthing domestically at cruiser!

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 02 Jul 2013, 14:07
by palooka
It be happier if he were fulfilled doing something else, less dangerous; he was a high level boxer and the years out can't have added much. I imagine he'll do well against modest opposition and find a step up harder than the first time around.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 02 Jul 2013, 17:31
by matko
palooka wrote:It be happier if he were fulfilled doing something else, less dangerous; he was a high level boxer and the years out can't have added much. I imagine he'll do well against modest opposition and find a step up harder than the first time around.
Same here his fight vs Gale was a barnstormer but in the past hate it when fighters do this after a huge lengthy lay off

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 03 Jul 2013, 16:42
by stevegoodwin
I understand the British Board turned him down so he must have got a GBA licence (he wont be able to box on British board licensed shows)

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 03 Jul 2013, 16:44
by keithmoonhangover
stevegoodwin wrote:I understand the British Board turned him down so he must have got a GBA licence (he wont be able to box on British board licensed shows)
Do you think the Board were right in turning him down Steve?

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 03 Jul 2013, 17:40
by Old bones Ian
stevegoodwin wrote:I understand the British Board turned him down so he must have got a GBA licence (he wont be able to box on British board licensed shows)
Do the board still go and watch a sparring session before issuing a licence? Not sure how it all works.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 03 Jul 2013, 18:24
by dbflex
Old bones Ian wrote:
stevegoodwin wrote:I understand the British Board turned him down so he must have got a GBA licence (he wont be able to box on British board licensed shows)
Do the board still go and watch a sparring session before issuing a licence? Not sure how it all works.
We explained this in a recent BN. They watch a full training session which does not have to include sparring.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 03 Jul 2013, 18:45
by stevegoodwin
keithmoonhangover wrote:
stevegoodwin wrote:I understand the British Board turned him down so he must have got a GBA licence (he wont be able to box on British board licensed shows)
Do you think the Board were right in turning him down Steve?
I dont honestly think I am qualified to answer that one. The issue is now that boxers that get turned down by the board will just get the GBA to licence them (if its not for medical reasons). However at the present time this means there are very few UK shows that the boxers can go on so it would not be a boxers preferred option.

This may well change in time. It depends on what happens in this power struggle.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 04 Jul 2013, 11:27
by reggaereggae
How old is Mark? Good luck to him, but I think Foreman is the exception

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 05 Jul 2013, 12:47
by JamesH
reggaereggae wrote:How old is Mark? Good luck to him, but I think Foreman is the exception
:TU: He is the exception, thats why his name comes up during every senior comeback, rather than anyone referencing the tonnes of comebacks which ended exactly as expected.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 05 Jul 2013, 13:44
by keithmoonhangover
JamesH wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:How old is Mark? Good luck to him, but I think Foreman is the exception
:TU: He is the exception, thats why his name comes up during every senior comeback, rather than anyone referencing the tonnes of comebacks which ended exactly as expected.
There's a reason why I brought up Foreman I explained that earlier in the post.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 05 Jul 2013, 14:30
by JamesH
keithmoonhangover wrote:
JamesH wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:How old is Mark? Good luck to him, but I think Foreman is the exception
:TU: He is the exception, thats why his name comes up during every senior comeback, rather than anyone referencing the tonnes of comebacks which ended exactly as expected.
There's a reason why I brought up Foreman I explained that earlier in the post.
I wasn't referring specifically to you but whatever the reason, Foreman ALWAYS gets mentioned when an older guy makes a comeback.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 05 Jul 2013, 14:33
by keithmoonhangover
JamesH wrote:I wasn't referring specifically to you but whatever the reason, Foreman ALWAYS gets mentioned when an older guy makes a comeback.
Foreman gets mentioned because Prince has been retired longer than Foreman was, the are both big punchers and both retired close to their primes.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 04:40
by JamesH
keithmoonhangover wrote:
JamesH wrote:I wasn't referring specifically to you but whatever the reason, Foreman ALWAYS gets mentioned when an older guy makes a comeback.
Foreman gets mentioned because Prince has been retired longer than Foreman was, the are both big punchers and both retired close to their primes.
There are similar aspects to the Terry Dunstan comeback too, I just haven't heard anyone reference them. Foreman, as I've said, gets mentioned whenever an older guy comes back.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 05:02
by polecateddy
I remember watching the Daruisz fight. Prince was in great condition, but boxing is all about levels and he was outgunned and worn down. I think Dunstan was a better fighter really. Both slightly brittle around the whiskers too. I'm sure Mark will be in great condition when he fights but I expect any punch resistance has further atrophied.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 21:54
by nfc90210
What was the reason that the British Board turned him down?

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 21:59
by nfc90210
Also, I just had a look at his Twitter (http://twitter.com/markno1prince) and judging by the photos he posted this past Friday he is at least in very good cosmetic shape. I know that doesn't always mean that much when it comes to older fighters but he does look in great shape.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 22:23
by polecateddy
nfc90210 wrote:Also, I just had a look at his Twitter (http://twitter.com/markno1prince) and judging by the photos he posted this past Friday he is at least in very good cosmetic shape. I know that doesn't always mean that much when it comes to older fighters but he does look in great shape.
Hmm... Just look how James Page's comeback went, and he was in great shape too. Age plus years of not being hit in sparring takes it all away.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 07 Jul 2013, 15:19
by hurlock
Going to post one more time on this. You got wadi camacho, Dawson etc prince would still be too much for these guys!!
Tony conquest & Leon Williams have had success alongside philbin these kids are not on princes level!! Not saying he will become a world champion but he will ping these kids!

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 07 Jul 2013, 16:11
by keithmoonhangover
polecateddy wrote:
nfc90210 wrote:Also, I just had a look at his Twitter (http://twitter.com/markno1prince) and judging by the photos he posted this past Friday he is at least in very good cosmetic shape. I know that doesn't always mean that much when it comes to older fighters but he does look in great shape.
Hmm... Just look how James Page's comeback went, and he was in great shape too. Age plus years of not being hit in sparring takes it all away.
So you'd rather he wasn't in shape?

Mark hasn't been sparring for donkeys years. His recent sparring session with Nathan Cleverley was his first in an age.

Re: Mark Prince

Posted: 07 Jul 2013, 20:04
by polecateddy
keithmoonhangover wrote:
polecateddy wrote:
nfc90210 wrote:Also, I just had a look at his Twitter (http://twitter.com/markno1prince) and judging by the photos he posted this past Friday he is at least in very good cosmetic shape. I know that doesn't always mean that much when it comes to older fighters but he does look in great shape.
Hmm... Just look how James Page's comeback went, and he was in great shape too. Age plus years of not being hit in sparring takes it all away.
So you'd rather he wasn't in shape?

Mark hasn't been sparring for donkeys years. His recent sparring session with Nathan Cleverley was his first in an age.
Exactly a huge gap in time badly effects punch resistance as the body is no longer used to the abuse. I think he would be wiser to take up a non-contact sport and let it go! Lol