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Chi whizz!
Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:02
by The REAL McCoy
Lets get straight to the point here folks, in McCoys big humble opinion Scott Harrison would BEAT Injin Chi, you wanna know why? then let the great McCoy explain...
The Injin Chi hype has been UNBELIEVABLE ever since Manchesters Michael Brodie was counted out in spectacular fashion against the South Korean
Chi put on a masterclass against the mancunian, having things his own way whilst controlling the tempo of the fight from the first bell
Jim Watt called Chi "A beast", others called Chi "a monster" & soon they will be calling him "The Korean King Kong"(you gotta love that boxing hype, eh?)
But the truth of the matter is young cats, Chi did what he was expected to do the first time, no more, no less
Many boxing experts & fans seem to have short memories, forgetting how bad Chi looked when backed up in the first fight- Although Chi should have got the decision that night, he didnt look like the better fighter when Brodie took the fight to him
Anyway, now onto Scott Harrison(who has shaved off his goatee beard BTW)
Just remember how devastating Scott has looked in the past against World Class fighters who are willing to stand & trade with him, like McCullough & Chacon(two fights that many thought Harrison would lose- both guys tried to slug it out with Scott, but quickly changed their game plan when they realised just how strong Harrison was
Scott's only problems have been against guys who are strictly boxers, & you can all be rest assured that Injin aint gonna dance & throw a pitty-pat jab
El McCoy verdadero thinks that Scott Harrison could have more of a problem with a slick southpaw like William Abelyan than he would ever have with Injin Chi
You know something? Should Harrison & Chi ever meet(no formality) McCoy will once again put his neck on the line & leave ALL forums for good should Chi ever beat Harrison, thats how confident this handsome bastard of a man is!
McCoy aint saying that Harrison is the best featherweight in the world, but-
Harrison would beat Injin Chi
& walk home with a belt from the WBC
Chi would have more lumps than McCoys cup of tea
Thats how it will be
You will disagree
But you will see, you will see...
Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:13
by adamiw
The last opponent Harrison fought was really aggressive and give Scott alot of problems. Luckily for Scott he punched himself out, the same thing wont happen with Chi. The Korean will DOMINATE Harrison throughout the fight, winning a comfortable decision! 8)
Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:23
by The REAL McCoy
adamiw wrote:The last opponent Harrison fought was really aggressive and give Scott alot of problems. Luckily for Scott he punched himself out, the same thing wont happen with Chi. The Korean will DOMINATE Harrison throughout the fight, winning a comfortable decision! 8)
Adamiw, rumour is that you still have some of McCoys humble pie in the fridge
The only reason Harrison took a few clean shots from Estrada was simply because Harrison underestimated him, trying to bomb him out in the early rounds, which he proceeded to do
Scott was interviewed in the Scottish Daily Record newspaper two days before the fight, saying how he was going to go straight for Estrada, & throw over 200 punches a round
Its obvious Scott underestimated him, but he wouldnt underestimate Chi
Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:24
by REAL_DEAL
hey Mccoy if you lose perhaps the bet will be to post more than 5 times a day 8)
ps i met tom jones last week (michael gomez manager) :P
Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:28
by adamiw
The REAL McCoy wrote:adamiw wrote:The last opponent Harrison fought was really aggressive and give Scott alot of problems. Luckily for Scott he punched himself out, the same thing wont happen with Chi. The Korean will DOMINATE Harrison throughout the fight, winning a comfortable decision! 8)
Adamiw, rumour is that you still have some of McCoys humble pie in the fridge
The only reason Harrison took a few clean shots from Estrada was simply because Harrison underestimated him, trying to bomb him out in the early rounds, which he proceeded to do
Scott was interviewed in the Scottish Daily Record newspaper two days before the fight, saying how he was going to go straight for Estrada, & throw over 200 punches a round
Its obvious Scott underestimated him, but he wouldnt underestimate Chi
IF Harrison gets past Abelyan, then we can discuss this in more detail.
Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:32
by The REAL McCoy
REAL_DEAL wrote:hey Mccoy if you lose perhaps the bet will be to post more than 5 times a day 8)
ps i met tom jones last week (michael gomez manager) :P
McCoy is surprised you have time to post more than 5 times a day Real Deal, with the amount of time you spend getting your pic taken you posing git :P

Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:36
by The REAL McCoy
adamiw wrote:The REAL McCoy wrote:adamiw wrote:The last opponent Harrison fought was really aggressive and give Scott alot of problems. Luckily for Scott he punched himself out, the same thing wont happen with Chi. The Korean will DOMINATE Harrison throughout the fight, winning a comfortable decision! 8)
Adamiw, rumour is that you still have some of McCoys humble pie in the fridge
The only reason Harrison took a few clean shots from Estrada was simply because Harrison underestimated him, trying to bomb him out in the early rounds, which he proceeded to do
Scott was interviewed in the Scottish Daily Record newspaper two days before the fight, saying how he was going to go straight for Estrada, & throw over 200 punches a round
Its obvious Scott underestimated him, but he wouldnt underestimate Chi
IF Harrison gets past Abelyan, then we can discuss this in more detail.
Hey Adamiw, are you angry, hmmm?
You keep rolling them eyes, & you are gonna upset this handsome muscular oiled up big loveable rogue

Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:36
by Tuffnutz
IMO Chi's style is a nightmare for Scott Harrison. He's like a bigger version of Medina and Estrada put together.
He throws looping awkward shots from all angles and his chin is great.
Scott Harrison is made for Chi. There's no way that this fight will ever happen.
Sorry McCoy but your're talking pants this time mate.
I hope to god this fight gets made though. We know that Chi would be happy to fight Scott in Scotland.
It would be a damn good war for the first five rounds but after that Chi's relentless pace would take over. He would either KTFO Scott late on, stop him on cuts or break his heart and UD him.
Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:38
by adamiw
The REAL McCoy wrote:adamiw wrote:The REAL McCoy wrote:
Adamiw, rumour is that you still have some of McCoys humble pie in the fridge
The only reason Harrison took a few clean shots from Estrada was simply because Harrison underestimated him, trying to bomb him out in the early rounds, which he proceeded to do
Scott was interviewed in the Scottish Daily Record newspaper two days before the fight, saying how he was going to go straight for Estrada, & throw over 200 punches a round
Its obvious Scott underestimated him, but he wouldnt underestimate Chi
IF Harrison gets past Abelyan, then we can discuss this in more detail.
Hey Adamiw, are you angry, hmmm?
You keep rolling them eyes, & you are gonna upset this handsome muscular oiled up big loveable rogue


Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:40
by Tuffnutz
adamiw wrote:The REAL McCoy wrote:adamiw wrote:
IF Harrison gets past Abelyan, then we can discuss this in more detail.
Hey Adamiw, are you angry, hmmm?
You keep rolling them eyes, & you are gonna upset this handsome muscular oiled up big loveable rogue



Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:48
by The REAL McCoy
Tuffnutz wrote:IMO Chi's style is a nightmare for Scott Harrison. He's like a bigger version of Medina and Estrada put together.
He throws looping awkward shots from all angles and his chin is great.
Scott Harrison is made for Chi. There's no way that this fight will ever happen.
Sorry McCoy but your're talking pants this time mate.
I hope to god this fight gets made though. We know that Chi would be happy to fight Scott in Scotland.
It would be a damn good war for the first five rounds but after that Chi's relentless pace would take over. He would either KTFO Scott late on, stop him on cuts or break his heart and UD him.
Hey Tuffy, are you just angry because Scott shaved off his goatee beard? Dont worry, he might grow it back!
"Sorry McCoy but your're talking pants this time mate.

"
The only time McCoy is talking pants is when McCoy is imitating Tom Jones on stage, & some hot womans panties get thrown & land in McCoys singing mouth!
Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 18:49
by adamiw
The REAL McCoy wrote:The only time McCoy is talking pants is when McCoy is imitating Tom Jones on stage, & a some hot womans panties get thrown & land in McCoys singing mouth!

Posted: 11 Apr 2004, 19:16
by Tuffnutz
The REAL McCoy wrote:Tuffnutz wrote:IMO Chi's style is a nightmare for Scott Harrison. He's like a bigger version of Medina and Estrada put together.
He throws looping awkward shots from all angles and his chin is great.
Scott Harrison is made for Chi. There's no way that this fight will ever happen.
Sorry McCoy but your're talking pants this time mate.
I hope to god this fight gets made though. We know that Chi would be happy to fight Scott in Scotland.
It would be a damn good war for the first five rounds but after that Chi's relentless pace would take over. He would either KTFO Scott late on, stop him on cuts or break his heart and UD him.
The only time McCoy is talking pants is when McCoy is imitating Tom Jones on stage, & some hot womans panties get thrown & land in McCoys singing mouth!

Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 14:08
by beduff
Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 14:42
by stujones
I disagree with McCoy here, I just think Chi is too fast and hits to hard for Harrison. Harrison is strong, but I think the last fight showed that he doesn't like it when he's up against a fellow big man. Chi is significantly better than Estrada.
I also don't feel they are over-rating Chi, merely he's been underated for years. He did a tremendous job against Morales, people said Morales had no focused and mentally not up for the job - I think hindsight has shown that this is not the case.
Michael Brodie, has shown himself to be among the very best Super Bantam weights in the world and Chi beat him clearly twice, which shows to me he is not just a one fight wonder. He's impressive - to be honest I did notice the commentators hyping the size differencial of the two, but this was apparent in the first contest and it should have been picked up then.
Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 14:46
by REAL_DEAL
this fight would show how good Harrison really is. a win would put him up there a lose would show he just isnt good to be a top featherweight (shame). i doubt this fight would ever take place thou, cant see chi coming back to Great Britain unless he fights for a lot lot of money
Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 16:04
by The REAL McCoy
Listen up & listen good you bum, McCoy doesnt post nonsense, he just tells it as it is
A combination of the hatred towards Scott Harrison on the forums & the love towards Chi make people see what they want to see, just the way that a lot of people favoured McCullough over Harrison
A fight with Chi isnt the struggle the hordes make out it is
Just because you are extremely desperate to see Chi beat Harrison, does not mean that Chi WILL beat harrison, the way he does in your mind
Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 16:28
by The REAL McCoy
stujones wrote:I disagree with McCoy here, I just think Chi is too fast and hits to hard for Harrison. Harrison is strong, but I think the last fight showed that he doesn't like it when he's up against a fellow big man. Chi is significantly better than Estrada.
I also don't feel they are over-rating Chi, merely he's been underated for years. He did a tremendous job against Morales, people said Morales had no focused and mentally not up for the job - I think hindsight has shown that this is not the case.
Michael Brodie, has shown himself to be among the very best Super Bantam weights in the world and Chi beat him clearly twice, which shows to me he is not just a one fight wonder. He's impressive - to be honest I did notice the commentators hyping the size differencial of the two, but this was apparent in the first contest and it should have been picked up then.
Stu, although Chi is a good fighter, he doesnt have a big punch, or blazing hand speed, but he is tough, has a good chin & great stamina & would be a hard fight for Scott
BUT
Scott would outpoint him
Scott has an underrated jab, & can box when he has to
Look how carefully Scott boxed when he faced the big punching Chacon, using his jab & hardly ever dropping his guard
He also boxed the same way against McCullough, taking the fight to both guys, but boxing a controlled, careful fight, & picking his punches perfectly
The Harrison we seen againt Medina(in the rematch) & Estrada was much more wild & looking to bomb out his opponent, with the scottish Daily record saying that if Scott didnt KO Estrada in the first 3 rounds it would be a bad performance
Scott aint a huge puncher, so it was crazy for Scott to go out assuming he could destroy a guy who had never been stopped before but he must have felt a huge amount of pressure in the scottish press
Chi is far from overrated in anywhere in the world apart from Britain where many assume he is such a monster he shouldnt get past customs
People forget how vulnerable Brodie has been looking in the past few years against the likes of the limited Pastor Maurin, & others
Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 16:34
by REAL_DEAL
The REAL McCoy wrote:REAL_DEAL wrote:hey Mccoy if you lose perhaps the bet will be to post more than 5 times a day 8)
ps i met tom jones last week (michael gomez manager) :P
McCoy is surprised you have time to post more than 5 times a day Real Deal, with the amount of time you spend getting your pic taken you posing git :P

hey Mcocy, when am i going to get a picture with u superstar 8)
Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 16:43
by The REAL McCoy
REAL_DEAL wrote:The REAL McCoy wrote:REAL_DEAL wrote:hey Mccoy if you lose perhaps the bet will be to post more than 5 times a day 8)
ps i met tom jones last week (michael gomez manager) :P
McCoy is surprised you have time to post more than 5 times a day Real Deal, with the amount of time you spend getting your pic taken you posing git :P

hey Mcocy, when am i going to get a picture with u superstar 8)
Next time you are in Glasgow, give McCoy a bell & he will meet you in his local haunt- The Horseshoe bar & buy you a beer, & disprove the theory that all scots are mean with their money!
Then we will do the photoshoot baby
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 17:00
by Southpaw Stylist
Harrison would get murdered by Chi.
Does anyone think Harrison could go 12 rounds with a prime Morales?
Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 17:14
by The REAL McCoy
Southpaw Stylist wrote:Harrison would get murdered by Chi.
Does anyone think Harrison could go 12 rounds with a prime Morales?
If Paulie Ayala & Wayne McCullough(who both started their career at Bantamweight) can last the distance against Morales, Harrison could as well
Also the only way Chi would murder Harrison is if he entered the ring with a knife

Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 17:28
by stujones
The REAL McCoy wrote:
Stu, although Chi is a good fighter, he doesnt have a big punch, or blazing hand speed, but he is tough, has a good chin & great stamina & would be a hard fight for Scott
BUT
Scott would outpoint him
Scott has an underrated jab, & can box when he has to
Look how carefully Scott boxed when he faced the big punching Chacon, using his jab & hardly ever dropping his guard
He also boxed the same way against McCullough, taking the fight to both guys, but boxing a controlled, careful fight, & picking his punches perfectly
The Harrison we seen againt Medina(in the rematch) & Estrada was much more wild & looking to bomb out his opponent, with the scottish Daily record saying that if Scott didnt KO Estrada in the first 3 rounds it would be a bad performance
Scott aint a huge puncher, so it was crazy for Scott to go out assuming he could destroy a guy who had never been stopped before but he must have felt a huge amount of pressure in the scottish press
Chi is far from overrated in anywhere in the world apart from Britain where many assume he is such a monster he shouldnt get past customs
People forget how vulnerable Brodie has been looking in the past few years against the likes of the limited Pastor Maurin, & others
Yes, Scott fought much better against Chacon and Wayne than he did in his other world title fights, however in Chacon he was fighting a limited fighter (the Polo fight before showed this) and against McCullough the size differiantial was critical.
Now, I am not saying what your saying about Brodie isn't correct, for me he's always looked vulnerable at Feather, thats why I have never ranked him above Harrison. Perhaps Brodie's vulnerability made Chi look better than what he is, but he also came very close to putting Morales on the canvas and hurt him on several occasions. To do this you must be pretty good.
As for his hand speed, well I was shocked that everytime (in both fights) Brodie tried to outbox Chi he got beaten to the punch - also Morales (who admittedly has got a shocking defence for an all time great) got tagged on several occasions. Harrison's hand speed is probably his worst factor IMO, I think Chi will beat him to the punch.
It was silly of the papers to say what they did as a preview for Scott's last fight, but I didn't like how he looked vulnerable, particularly to the body. Now Estrada was a good fighter, who I'm sure would cause all the brit boys headaches, but I say Chi is similar to Estrada, but better in every department and on a par with him in terms of power.
I think Harrison is taylor made for Chi.
Posted: 12 Apr 2004, 17:44
by beduff
Posted: 13 Apr 2004, 02:50
by Blue
Chi has bigger fish to fry; 8)
In todays MX press it was reported that Marco Antonio Barrera traveled to Los Angeles Monday,
where he will confer with promoter Oscar de la Hoya to initiate negotiations to challenge In Jin Chi for the WBC Title in July
IF Marco wins and since he likes the WBO, we could possibly see unification with Harrison down the road,
If Fast Frankie doesn't get in the way. :(