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Anyone know if he's coming back? I know he went on a break due to personal reasons but he's not the youngest so he cant really afford to be out too long. Would love to see him and Smigga go at it.

columbo wrote:Anyone know if he's coming back? I know he went on a break due to personal reasons but he's not the youngest so he cant really afford to be out too long. Would love to see him and Smigga go at it.

I dont rate him at all i think his punches are slow. Defense and footwork arent great. I think the only reason anyone took any real notice of him is because he had groves down and nearly out. He hasnt progressed from there hes got worse if they were to box again Groves would do a number on him and early

Smith vs Anderson would be good. I'd pick Smith based on their last fights.

smiling assassin wrote:

columbo wrote:Anyone know if he's coming back? I know he went on a break due to personal reasons but he's not the youngest so he cant really afford to be out too long. Would love to see him and Smigga go at it.

I dont rate him at all i think his punches are slow. Defense and footwork arent great. I think the only reason anyone took any real notice of him is because he had groves down and nearly out. He hasnt progressed from there hes got worse if they were to box again Groves would do a number on him and early

Oh dont get me wrong, I dont think he's going to progress beyond domestic and maybe european level if he's lucky. Like you I think he looks slow and very rigid when he throws punches and he's too easy to hit. Saying that though, I think he's a seriously tough guy. I remember watching him against Groves and some of the punches that were just bouncing off his head without him really blinking were huge shots! Whenever you see people talking about having sparred with him, they tend to say he's tougher to deal with than he looks on tape. He can also punch a bit. I think he'd give Smith a good and tough fight.

smiling assassin wrote:

columbo wrote:I think the only reason anyone took any real notice of him is because he had groves down and nearly out.

And he knocked his hat off at the weigh in

Horse wrote:Smith vs Anderson would be good. I'd pick Smith based on their last fights.

Anderson looked awful against Reid. I think part of that though was because he tried to box rather than his usual come forward style. He isnt a guy that is good at boxing at range and it showed.

columbo wrote:

smiling assassin wrote:

columbo wrote:Anyone know if he's coming back? I know he went on a break due to personal reasons but he's not the youngest so he cant really afford to be out too long. Would love to see him and Smigga go at it.

I dont rate him at all i think his punches are slow. Defense and footwork arent great. I think the only reason anyone took any real notice of him is because he had groves down and nearly out. He hasnt progressed from there hes got worse if they were to box again Groves would do a number on him and early

Oh dont get me wrong, I dont think he's going to progress beyond domestic and maybe european level if he's lucky. Like you I think he looks slow and very rigid when he throws punches and he's too easy to hit. Saying that though, I think he's a seriously tough guy. I remember watching him against Groves and some of the punches that were just bouncing off his head without him really blinking were huge shots! Whenever you see people talking about having sparred with him, they tend to say he's tougher to deal with than he looks on tape. He can also punch a bit. I think he'd give Smith a good and tough fight.

Sorry mate i think i was just going on a rant . He is tough there is no doubt about that and he can bang it would be a good fight to watch against Smith, im not sure if Smith could take him out but could definately out box him and Kenny can punch to so would be a 70/30 fight in favor of Smith in my eyes. Never seen Paul Smith in a decent fight untill last weekend and he impressed me and i dont think Anderson is even on Dodsons level

He obviously does have a good boxing brain and ability as they dont give out Commonwealth Games Gold medals for nowt,but his aggressive come forward style was more suited to the pro game,i just think his pro career never really got going,its funny saying that about a former British champ but you get the drift,very stop/start throughout,he took the Groves fight at short notice and i reckon if they rematched 8-12 weeks later with Anderson having a proper training camp,i would have fancied Kenny to beat George at that point but it wasnt to be and George would beat him up pretty bad now

He was a mean looking so and so as well

columbo wrote:

smiling assassin wrote:

columbo wrote:Anyone know if he's coming back? I know he went on a break due to personal reasons but he's not the youngest so he cant really afford to be out too long. Would love to see him and Smigga go at it.

I dont rate him at all i think his punches are slow. Defense and footwork arent great. I think the only reason anyone took any real notice of him is because he had groves down and nearly out. He hasnt progressed from there hes got worse if they were to box again Groves would do a number on him and early

Oh dont get me wrong, I dont think he's going to progress beyond domestic and maybe european level if he's lucky. Like you I think he looks slow and very rigid when he throws punches and he's too easy to hit. Saying that though, I think he's a seriously tough guy. I remember watching him against Groves and some of the punches that were just bouncing off his head without him really blinking were huge shots! Whenever you see people talking about having sparred with him, they tend to say he's tougher to deal with than he looks on tape. He can also punch a bit. I think he'd give Smith a good and tough fight.

Sorry mate i think i was just going on a rant . He is tough there is no doubt about that and he can bang it would be a good fight to watch against Smith, im not sure if Smith could take him out but could definately out box him and Kenny can punch to so would be a 70/30 fight in favor of Smith in my eyes. Never seen Paul Smith in a decent fight untill last weekend and he impressed me and i dont think Anderson is even on Dodsons level[/quote]

Yeah for me it would be a case of Smith either outboxing Anderson or Anderson stopping Smith. Like you I was impressed with Smith at the weekend as he boxed very well and there was none of that ugly holding going on. Regarding Dodson, I think Anderson would stop him. Dodson is a better boxer again I think but I dont think his punch resistance would hold up.

handsofstone wrote:He obviously does have a good boxing brain and ability as they dont give out Commonwealth Games Gold medals for nowt,but his aggressive come forward style was more suited to the pro game,i just think his pro career never really got going,its funny saying that about a former British champ but you get the drift,very stop/start throughout,he took the Groves fight at short notice and i reckon if they rematched 8-12 weeks later with Anderson having a proper training camp,i would have fancied Kenny to beat George at that point but it wasnt to be and George would beat him up pretty bad now

He was a mean looking so and so as well

You would think that but ive watched a fair few of his amateur bouts from the commonwealth games but he doesnt really fight any different! He's very much a stalking/ come forward fighter which works against some fighters but not so well against slick guys who have decent chins.

columbo wrote:

handsofstone wrote:He obviously does have a good boxing brain and ability as they dont give out Commonwealth Games Gold medals for nowt,but his aggressive come forward style was more suited to the pro game,i just think his pro career never really got going,its funny saying that about a former British champ but you get the drift,very stop/start throughout,he took the Groves fight at short notice and i reckon if they rematched 8-12 weeks later with Anderson having a proper training camp,i would have fancied Kenny to beat George at that point but it wasnt to be and George would beat him up pretty bad now

He was a mean looking so and so as well

You would think that but ive watched a fair few of his amateur bouts from the commonwealth games but he doesnt really fight any different! He's very much a stalking/ come forward fighter which works against some fighters but not so well against slick guys who have decent chins.

Yeah maybe he,s quite 1 dimensional then,you can get away with that against some boys if you fit and young but after 30 and not living the most dedicated of lives you get found out more often than not against opposition who are there to win,but i will say his British title win over Reid was the worst id seen him probably

handsofstone wrote:

columbo wrote:

handsofstone wrote:He obviously does have a good boxing brain and ability as they dont give out Commonwealth Games Gold medals for nowt,but his aggressive come forward style was more suited to the pro game,i just think his pro career never really got going,its funny saying that about a former British champ but you get the drift,very stop/start throughout,he took the Groves fight at short notice and i reckon if they rematched 8-12 weeks later with Anderson having a proper training camp,i would have fancied Kenny to beat George at that point but it wasnt to be and George would beat him up pretty bad now

He was a mean looking so and so as well

You would think that but ive watched a fair few of his amateur bouts from the commonwealth games but he doesnt really fight any different! He's very much a stalking/ come forward fighter which works against some fighters but not so well against slick guys who have decent chins.

Yeah maybe he,s quite 1 dimensional then,you can get away with that against some boys if you fit and young but after 30 and not living the most dedicated of lives you get found out more often than not against opposition who are there to win,but i will say his British title win over Reid was the worst id seen him probably

Here's a link to his commonwealth games final.... he's not quite so gung ho as he is in the pros but the style isnt that much different I think you'd agree? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtEDT9H7jQk

His performance vs Reid was awful. Who knows what he was trying yo do in that fight.

It's hard to say how good he is, a fight v Smith would surely tell where both are heading.

ShadrachSimmo wrote:His performance vs Reid was awful. Who knows what he was trying yo do in that fight.

It's hard to say how good he is, a fight v Smith would surely tell where both are heading.

Probably wouldnt be one for the purists,quite messy but could be fun

So is he coming back then?

Cheers for the link columbo

In boxing news it says that he may have legal proceedings started against him as he hasn't return his Lonsdale belt.

BillyTKid wrote:In boxing news it says that he may have legal proceedings started against him as he hasn't return his Lonsdale belt.

Oh shit that doesnt sound good.

handsofstone wrote:Cheers for the link columbo

No worries mate

ThereByTheGrace wrote:So is he coming back then?

Havent managed to find anyone that knows to post haha.

I liked how he came across and how he boxed; he was very good as an amateur and is good enough to upset a few big names as a pro. I'm not sure as to why he doesn't box very often, if it's frustrating for us it must be plain awful for him. I agree with columbo; Smith v Anderson is one hell of a domestic match up; Smith boxed very well last weekend and some of his hitting was very heavy and bang on target - he really wanted that win.

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Sorry mate i think i was just going on a rant . He is tough there is no doubt about that and he can bang it would be a good fight to watch against Smith, im not sure if Smith could take him out but could definately out box him and Kenny can punch to so would be a 70/30 fight in favor of Smith in my eyes. Never seen Paul Smith in a decent fight untill last weekend and he impressed me and i dont think Anderson is even on Dodsons level[/quote]


lol commenwealth games gold medalist isnt on dodson level, kenny would stop smith and dodson,, ive sparred him and watched countless sparring sessions with him with top guys including the likes of bellew and froch, ask them how good he is and if he is technical and has a boxing brain, everyone makes out hes a slow slugger, the guys a tough game boxer who can box and fight i can assure you,,

bigped wrote:

Sorry mate i think i was just going on a rant . He is tough there is no doubt about that and he can bang it would be a good fight to watch against Smith, im not sure if Smith could take him out but could definately out box him and Kenny can punch to so would be a 70/30 fight in favor of Smith in my eyes. Never seen Paul Smith in a decent fight untill last weekend and he impressed me and i dont think Anderson is even on Dodsons level[/quote]


lol commenwealth games gold medalist isnt on dodson level, kenny would stop smith and dodson,, ive sparred him and watched countless sparring sessions with him with top guys including the likes of bellew and froch, ask them how good he is and if he is technical and has a boxing brain, everyone makes out hes a slow slugger, the guys a tough game boxer who can box and fight i can assure you,,[/quote]
It's understandable why people think that watching him at times though. He didnt look great against Reid to be fair when he boxed at range. I think he's most effective when he comes forward.

I personally don't rate him, apart from the Groves knockdown he's been fairly mediocre. If he'd been able to remain active after the Groves fight he could have earned a return with Groves or a fight with DeGale which would have shown his true level (Groves would have beaten him in more conclusive manner, DeGale would have outclassed him probably) Instead we had the dire performance against the ancient Reid and now this period of inactivity/uncertainty.

I think his day has been and gone any momentum from the Groves fight has been lost and I think he'd struggle with Smith now.

Imagine the build up to that one, two of the most boring, drab (and obnoxious) 'personalities' in boxing

BillyTKid wrote:In boxing news it says that he may have legal proceedings started against him as he hasn't return his Lonsdale belt.

Don't understand why a fighter would try and keep it, just suspend his license until he gives it back.