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Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 05 Jul 2013, 14:29
by CrazyHorse
Who do you gentlemen think had the quicker hand speed in their primes

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 05 Jul 2013, 16:32
by HomicideHenry
Floyd Patterson had faster hands.

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 05 Jul 2013, 17:40
by observer1
HomicideHenry wrote:Floyd Patterson had faster hands.
Do you have difficulty reading?

Where in the poll did it say Floyd Patterson when he asked which of Mike Tyson or Ali had faster hands?

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I think Ali slightly faster, but Tyson certainly had the quicker combo's imo.

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 05 Jul 2013, 18:02
by HomicideHenry
observer1 wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:Floyd Patterson had faster hands.
Do you have difficulty reading?

Where in the poll did it say Floyd Patterson when he asked which of Mike Tyson or Ali had faster hands?

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I think Ali slightly faster, but Tyson certainly had the quicker combo's imo.
Ali had a jab timed at 4/100th's of a second. I dont know if Tyson's speed was ever measured, but I dont think in terms of hand speed Mike was as fast or faster than Tyson. He was comparable but still a few shades slower than Ali.

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 05 Jul 2013, 23:26
by BoxBuzz
Why a duck?

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 05 Jul 2013, 23:44
by polecateddy
Tyson surely had far more fast switch fibres. Ali wouldnt be able to match the speed of Tyson's signature short range combinations. Ali was more fleet footed with better long range punches.

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 11:22
by gilgamesh
Ali was probably faster a lot of the time because he didn't load up on his shots as often as Tyson...to be as big a puncher as he was though, Tyson was extremely fast.

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 12:16
by evrenb
Dont get polecat on the subject he will never side on the older fighter...sheesh!!!
I would say Ali faster..tyson fast and powerful and a very close second...
I remember a round in the ali - patterson 2 fight when it looked they were trading fast shots
and ali was the winner!!!

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 06 Jul 2013, 12:30
by CrazyHorse
HomicideHenry wrote:Floyd Patterson had faster hands.
Did I ask who is the fastest handspeed in heavyweight history? No. I asked who has the quicker hands between Tyson or Ali.

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 07 Jul 2013, 17:13
by The End
HomicideHenry wrote:
observer1 wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:Floyd Patterson had faster hands.
Do you have difficulty reading?

Where in the poll did it say Floyd Patterson when he asked which of Mike Tyson or Ali had faster hands?

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I think Ali slightly faster, but Tyson certainly had the quicker combo's imo.
Ali had a jab timed at 4/100th's of a second. I dont know if Tyson's speed was ever measured, but I dont think in terms of hand speed Mike was as fast or faster than Tyson. He was comparable but still a few shades slower than Ali.
:bow:

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 08 Jul 2013, 04:36
by SamWise72
I would say Ali overall, but that Tyson threw power hooks faster than any other heavyweight I've seen.

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 08 Jul 2013, 09:51
by man
they had different kind of handspeed and used
it in different ways. ali was willing to just flick
out jabs for points and wearing down. to me he
most of the time held back in both speed and
power. he did what he had to do. if he really
intended to have fast hands he was as fast as
you can possibly be as a man of his stature.
though this clip is more about his reflexes than
hand speed, it has a nice flurry at around 3:55.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkhpZoPOfZI

on the other hand mike punched to hurt and
used full body almost all of the time. the max
speed impression i got from him was always
a combination of body- and handspeed, like
here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6zlaIl0yh0
i find the sequence around 1:30 really stunning.

overall i voted for mike by the slightest possible
margin.

Re: Quicker handspeed Tyson or Ali?

Posted: 11 Jul 2013, 10:19
by Nile4000
I'm going with Muhammad by a shade.From a faster handspeed point of view, I'd would go with Muhammad more, but Tyson is almost as quick, though not Dokes quick.