Rank the chins of Louis, Marciano, Frazier and
Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 12:13
Tyson.
Tyson?Il Duce wrote:Chin Strength.
* Joe Louis............B+
* Rocky Marciano....A-
* Joe Frazier...........A-
* George Chuvalo....A+
The only guy who really stopped Frazier in his tracks was Foreman, and that was after several clubbing punches. Marciano was knocked down by Walcott and Moore who were strong punchers, but no George Foreman, so I think it's an open ended question as to who had the better chin.Mr E wrote:I couldn't rank them except to say that, when it came to the ability to take a blistering single-shot and keep going, I put Marciano and Tyson above Louis and Frazier.
I agree with this,gilgamesh wrote:1. Frazier
2. Tyson
3. Marciano
4. Louis
none of them were glass jawed though by any means. I could see an argument for Tyson being tougher than Frazier, but Frazier showed more heart down the stretch in tough fights so I give him the edge.
x2SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I agree with this,gilgamesh wrote:1. Frazier
2. Tyson
3. Marciano
4. Louis
none of them were glass jawed though by any means. I could see an argument for Tyson being tougher than Frazier, but Frazier showed more heart down the stretch in tough fights so I give him the edge.
Il Duce wrote:Smokin Joe Frazier was floored '6' times by George Foreman.
How he got up from the 2nd-Knockdown after absorbing a vicious right upper-cut
flush on the jaw is something that no other human could have done.
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Joe Louis, the Brown Bomber was rattled by many mediocre-punchers, and was KO'd
'flat-out' by an aged Max Schmeling.
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Rocky Marciano could be caught, but only went down twice. But, both men who
floored him were old fighters.
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Mike Tyson took bombs, and never waivered. The loss to Buster Douglas was more
of a combination of issues.
If I am not mistaken, I seen a picture of Moore landing the knockdown punch on Marciano, and The Rock was off balance to begin with throwing a wild right hand. The knock down, in a sense, wasn't exactly because Moore was such a strong puncher that he dropped Marciano--- he just caught Marciano at the right time when he was off balance.jezzamundo wrote:The only guy who really stopped Frazier in his tracks was Foreman, and that was after several clubbing punches. Marciano was knocked down by Walcott and Moore who were strong punchers, but no George Foreman, so I think it's an open ended question as to who had the better chin.Mr E wrote:I couldn't rank them except to say that, when it came to the ability to take a blistering single-shot and keep going, I put Marciano and Tyson above Louis and Frazier.
It's at about 7:40 of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pPfPUQopfgHomicideHenry wrote:If I am not mistaken, I seen a picture of Moore landing the knockdown punch on Marciano, and The Rock was off balance to begin with throwing a wild right hand. The knock down, in a sense, wasn't exactly because Moore was such a strong puncher that he dropped Marciano--- he just caught Marciano at the right time when he was off balance.jezzamundo wrote:The only guy who really stopped Frazier in his tracks was Foreman, and that was after several clubbing punches. Marciano was knocked down by Walcott and Moore who were strong punchers, but no George Foreman, so I think it's an open ended question as to who had the better chin.Mr E wrote:I couldn't rank them except to say that, when it came to the ability to take a blistering single-shot and keep going, I put Marciano and Tyson above Louis and Frazier.
Archie Moore couldn't have floored Frazier with a shotgun.Ambling Alp II wrote:I don't think Marciano and Frazier would have been knocked out by the punches that Douglas landed on Tyson.
I would rank them:
1. Marciano
2. Frazier
3. Tyson
4. Louis
Considering all heavyweights, they all had good chins.