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Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 04:39
by Parson Cross
Thought this was just a publicity stunt but word from the island is it's for real.
Cipprianis Ibiza. Del boy had a pop at Klitchko.
Will that man never learn ?

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 05:03
by TopGun

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 05:08
by rm1
What a plonker.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 05:46
by TopGun
Sad thing is, doing these crazy things may get him a shot at Klit. Warren must love it really.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 06:08
by Benelio
Oh poor Saint Wladmir.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 06:12
by whiskey
Did he spit water in Wlad's face to cool him down after an hour busting some shapes on the Ibiza dancefloor ?

Battle of the Glow sticks.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 06:28
by danconnollyeire
Haha never imagined Wladimir in Ibiza

They should both drop some E's and be best friends

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 09:20
by Bard of Boxrec
I'll cream myself if Wlad/Chisora gets made. Chisora's pressure style makes Wlad shit himself and Dereck is tough enough to negotiate the negligable amount of right hands Wlad bothers to throw these days. Not sure Dereck would win (if only he punched harder) but he would do better than Haye did.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 09:59
by rio
I would fancy del boy to take him in a street fight.....a boxing match no chance tho!

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 10:07
by handsofstone
Riddick Blowe wrote:I'll cream myself if Wlad/Chisora gets made. Chisora's pressure style makes Wlad poo himself and Dereck is tough enough to negotiate the negligable amount of right hands Wlad bothers to throw these days. Not sure Dereck would win (if only he punched harder) but he would do better than Haye did.
I think he would be more offensive than Haye which would be why he gets KO,d at somepoint after the midway stage

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 13:02
by lefty
Riddick Blowe wrote:I'll cream myself if Wlad/Chisora gets made. Chisora's pressure style makes Wlad poo himself and Dereck is tough enough to negotiate the negligable amount of right hands Wlad bothers to throw these days. Not sure Dereck would win (if only he punched harder) but he would do better than Haye did.
Wlad would destroy Chisora. You say Chisora's pressure style would trouble Wlad and it in itself would but if you havent been watching Wlad's fights for the last atleast 3 years you'll notice that as soon as an opponent gets close to him or on the inside he ties up and gets away with it.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 15:29
by dr_devious
I'd fookin love it if Del boy beat Vlad, cant see it but at least he'd give it a go

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 15:33
by Yes We Can
The problem with Del boy against Wlad is that Derek cant get inside, he's not a smart enough boxer to duck and dive moving the upper body and head whilst throwing punches, he either does one or the other, okay against somebody that doesnt hit hard like Malik Scott, or somebody as slow as an ox like Helunius... not so great against the best in the world by a long distance.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 15:34
by loaded_gloves
columbo wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:I'll cream myself if Wlad/Chisora gets made. Chisora's pressure style makes Wlad poo himself and Dereck is tough enough to negotiate the negligable amount of right hands Wlad bothers to throw these days. Not sure Dereck would win (if only he punched harder) but he would do better than Haye did.
Wlad would destroy Chisora. You say Chisora's pressure style would trouble Wlad and it in itself would but if you havent been watching Wlad's fights for the last atleast 3 years you'll notice that as soon as an opponent gets close to him or on the inside he ties up and gets away with it.
What relevance are a bunch of fat old bums to Del Boy? Okay Haye bombed Chisora but styles make fights. Chisora is better than all these guys except Haye, who didn't try.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 15:45
by jameswilson
dr_devious wrote:I'd fookin love it if Del boy beat Vlad, cant see it but at least he'd give it a go
If only my Auntie had bollocks she'd be my Uncle.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 17:28
by Bard of Boxrec
funtime wrote:The problem with Del boy against Wlad is that Derek cant get inside, he's not a smart enough boxer to duck and dive moving the upper body and head whilst throwing punches, he either does one or the other, okay against somebody that doesnt hit hard like Malik Scott, or somebody as slow as an ox like Helunius... not so great against the best in the world by a long distance.
But bobbing and weaving and throwing a lot is exactly Del's style. He landed plenty on Vitali and was hardly troubled at all. People say today's Wlad is better than today's Vitali but I don't see much reason to think that at all. The difference is Vitali can handle a bit of pressure whereas it bothers Wlad immensely.

Anyone who predicts a Wlad KO is basically saying Wlad would start throwing the right hand with regularity, something he hasn't done for years, and as soon as he glimpses some pressure and shots coming his way he would try and tie up and spoil and do everything he can to throw as little as possible while winning in the most boring way. And as long as Del keeps working he has a shot at piling up rounds.

The Del that showed up against Vitali would have had a great chance to win on workrate alone. Could he win now? Who knows, but his style means he has a better shot than nearly anyone else.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 17:47
by dookus
Riddick Blowe wrote:
funtime wrote:The problem with Del boy against Wlad is that Derek cant get inside, he's not a smart enough boxer to duck and dive moving the upper body and head whilst throwing punches, he either does one or the other, okay against somebody that doesnt hit hard like Malik Scott, or somebody as slow as an ox like Helunius... not so great against the best in the world by a long distance.
But bobbing and weaving and throwing a lot is exactly Del's style. He landed plenty on Vitali and was hardly troubled at all. People say today's Wlad is better than today's Vitali but I don't see much reason to think that at all. The difference is Vitali can handle a bit of pressure whereas it bothers Wlad immensely.

Anyone who predicts a Wlad KO is basically saying Wlad would start throwing the right hand with regularity, something he hasn't done for years, and as soon as he glimpses some pressure and shots coming his way he would try and tie up and spoil and do everything he can to throw as little as possible while winning in the most boring way. And as long as Del keeps working he has a shot at piling up rounds.

The Del that showed up against Vitali would have had a great chance to win on workrate alone. Could he win now? Who knows, but his style means he has a better shot than nearly anyone else.
He threw plenty of right hands against Wach. But then Chisora is not such a static target. It would be interesting as long as it lasted, but Chisora doesn't hit hard enough to get Wlad out of there, and the reverse isn't true.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 17:49
by lefty
jameswilson wrote:
dr_devious wrote:I'd fookin love it if Del boy beat Vlad, cant see it but at least he'd give it a go
If only my Auntie had bollocks she'd be my Uncle.
Repeating the same material :shame:

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 17:50
by lefty
loaded_gloves wrote:
columbo wrote:
Riddick Blowe wrote:I'll cream myself if Wlad/Chisora gets made. Chisora's pressure style makes Wlad poo himself and Dereck is tough enough to negotiate the negligable amount of right hands Wlad bothers to throw these days. Not sure Dereck would win (if only he punched harder) but he would do better than Haye did.
Wlad would destroy Chisora. You say Chisora's pressure style would trouble Wlad and it in itself would but if you havent been watching Wlad's fights for the last atleast 3 years you'll notice that as soon as an opponent gets close to him or on the inside he ties up and gets away with it.
What relevance are a bunch of fat old bums to Del Boy? Okay Haye bombed Chisora but styles make fights. Chisora is better than all these guys except Haye, who didn't try.
Samuel Peter was probably a better fighter than Del Boy and he still lost to Wlad twice.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 30 Jul 2013, 21:29
by jameswilson
columbo wrote:
jameswilson wrote:
dr_devious wrote:I'd fookin love it if Del boy beat Vlad, cant see it but at least he'd give it a go
If only my Auntie had bollocks she'd be my Uncle.
Repeating the same material :shame:
It's a saying rather than a joke. When people keep saying 'if this, if only that' on here then I'm gonna keep saying it to point out the absurdity of what they are saying.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 02:02
by digzee
Benelio wrote:Oh poor Saint Wladmir.
x2 What did Del do? I've read the article but I cant see how he's been a "plonker".

"Dereck Chisora was involved in an amazing nightclub brawl with Wladimir Klitschko" Surely if it was so AMAZING they would have had eyewitnesses saying this that an other and photos to go along with it, but nothing just the photo of Del slapping Vitali and a photo of the hero Wlad celebrating in front of his fans after a win, typical...

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 07:20
by Asterix
Riddick Blowe wrote:
funtime wrote:The problem with Del boy against Wlad is that Derek cant get inside, he's not a smart enough boxer to duck and dive moving the upper body and head whilst throwing punches, he either does one or the other, okay against somebody that doesnt hit hard like Malik Scott, or somebody as slow as an ox like Helunius... not so great against the best in the world by a long distance.
But bobbing and weaving and throwing a lot is exactly Del's style. He landed plenty on Vitali and was hardly troubled at all. People say today's Wlad is better than today's Vitali but I don't see much reason to think that at all. The difference is Vitali can handle a bit of pressure whereas it bothers Wlad immensely.

Anyone who predicts a Wlad KO is basically saying Wlad would start throwing the right hand with regularity, something he hasn't done for years, and as soon as he glimpses some pressure and shots coming his way he would try and tie up and spoil and do everything he can to throw as little as possible while winning in the most boring way. And as long as Del keeps working he has a shot at piling up rounds.

The Del that showed up against Vitali would have had a great chance to win on workrate alone. Could he win now? Who knows, but his style means he has a better shot than nearly anyone else.
I understand where you're coming from, but Chisora is not fast enough or good enough to do what you're saying. Wlad's a good athlete and should have no problem keeping his distance; something he has just about mastered now.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 08:09
by danconnollyeire
Asterix wrote: I understand where you're coming from, but Chisora is not fast enough or good enough to do what you're saying. Wlad's a good athlete and should have no problem keeping his distance; something he has just about mastered now.
yep :TU: I like Chisora as a fighter but he doesn't even have half the fitness as someone like Frazier had. I don't get how boxing can be your full time job, yet you aren't as slim and fit as you could be. esp when fighting for world titles! If he had Fraziers fitness in todays HW scene, he wouldn't be far off being a world beater

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 08:10
by lefty
danconnollyeire wrote:
Asterix wrote: I understand where you're coming from, but Chisora is not fast enough or good enough to do what you're saying. Wlad's a good athlete and should have no problem keeping his distance; something he has just about mastered now.
yep :TU: I like Chisora as a fighter but he doesn't even have half the fitness as someone like Frazier had. I don't get how boxing can be your full time job, yet you aren't as slim and fit as you could be. esp when fighting for world titles! If he had Fraziers fitness in todays HW scene, he wouldn't be far off being a world beater
He doesnt have the punching power of Frazier either though.

Re: Del Boy at it again ....

Posted: 31 Jul 2013, 11:26
by lefthook82
Vlad will take his soul with the jab and then knock him out late rounds or cruise to a points victory. A regulation Vlad win. Chisora has nothing to trouble Vlad with