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I think Professor win by decision 116-112

Nelson on points.

Nelson by KO, a clear level above Hamed

Azumah Nelson W12

Nelson.

Nelson

I think it's impossible to really say how Nelson would have coped with a peak Naz. His Pat Cowdell win was quite reminiscent of say Naz's win over Billy Hardy. However Nelson was rarely as totally dominant and spectacular as Naz in his wins. And when he met Pernell Whittaker he was completely outboxed. I will go against the grain of this thread and say Naz on PTS.

The Whitaker fight was at lightweight, and Whitaker>>>Hamed.

Rover wrote:The Whitaker fight was at lightweight, and Whitaker>>>Hamed.

I'm not trying to put Naz above Whittaker. But there's no denying there is nearly always an anti-Naz bias because people just don't like him. He should be in the boxing hall of fame, but again there's this bias. I was simply pointing out that Nelson could be outboxed. And the younger version of Naz was pretty amazing.

I've always been a big fan of Naz and agree that he gets undersold a lot of the time but Nelson is just too good imo and would have him all figured out by the mid rounds.

The Professor by comprehensive decision.

polecateddy wrote:

Rover wrote:The Whitaker fight was at lightweight, and Whitaker>>>Hamed.

I'm not trying to put Naz above Whittaker. But there's no denying there is nearly always an anti-Naz bias because people just don't like him. He should be in the boxing hall of fame, but again there's this bias. I was simply pointing out that Nelson could be outboxed. And the younger version of Naz was pretty amazing.

I agree Nelson could be outboxed, but I'm frankly a little amazed you think Naz would be the one to do it. I would think if he had a chance, it would be to catch Nelson with something big. I don't think that's as likely as Nelson just outboxing hm, even though I am a big fan of his(Naz).

Bobbyptsd wrote:

polecateddy wrote:

Rover wrote:The Whitaker fight was at lightweight, and Whitaker>>>Hamed.

I'm not trying to put Naz above Whittaker. But there's no denying there is nearly always an anti-Naz bias because people just don't like him. He should be in the boxing hall of fame, but again there's this bias. I was simply pointing out that Nelson could be outboxed. And the younger version of Naz was pretty amazing.

I agree Nelson could be outboxed, but I'm frankly a little amazed you think Naz would be the one to do it. I would think if he had a chance, it would be to catch Nelson with something big. I don't think that's as likely as Nelson just outboxing hm, even though I am a big fan of his(Naz).

Naz gets marked down a lot because he was outpointed by Barrera. But people do tend to forget that the Naz who lived and breathed boxing at the start of his career. I think the version who say beat Steve Robinson could potentially stand Nelson on his head!

polecateddy wrote:

Rover wrote:The Whitaker fight was at lightweight, and Whitaker>>>Hamed.

I'm not trying to put Naz above Whittaker. But there's no denying there is nearly always an anti-Naz bias because people just don't like him. He should be in the boxing hall of fame, but again there's this bias. I was simply pointing out that Nelson could be outboxed. And the younger version of Naz was pretty amazing.

I'm a Naz fan. Saying Whitaker outboxed Nelson really doesn't tell us much about this match-up. That's kind of like saying that X would KO Y because Hearns did--two divisions north.

The Professor.

Professor UD

polecateddy wrote:
I'm not trying to put Naz above Whittaker. But there's no denying there is nearly always an anti-Naz bias because people just don't like him. He should be in the boxing hall of fame, but again there's this bias. I was simply pointing out that Nelson could be outboxed. And the younger version of Naz was pretty amazing.

I don't think he has a Hall of Fame resume.

gilgamesh wrote:

polecateddy wrote:
I'm not trying to put Naz above Whittaker. But there's no denying there is nearly always an anti-Naz bias because people just don't like him. He should be in the boxing hall of fame, but again there's this bias. I was simply pointing out that Nelson could be outboxed. And the younger version of Naz was pretty amazing.

I don't think he has a Hall of Fame resume.

Yet they put Gatti in.

polecateddy wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

polecateddy wrote:
I'm not trying to put Naz above Whittaker. But there's no denying there is nearly always an anti-Naz bias because people just don't like him. He should be in the boxing hall of fame, but again there's this bias. I was simply pointing out that Nelson could be outboxed. And the younger version of Naz was pretty amazing.

I don't think he has a Hall of Fame resume.

Yet they put Gatti in.

Which is a joke.
I'd vote no on Hamed. But he'll likely get in eventually.

polecateddy wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

polecateddy wrote:
I'm not trying to put Naz above Whittaker. But there's no denying there is nearly always an anti-Naz bias because people just don't like him. He should be in the boxing hall of fame, but again there's this bias. I was simply pointing out that Nelson could be outboxed. And the younger version of Naz was pretty amazing.

I don't think he has a Hall of Fame resume.

Yet they put Gatti in.

He didn't belong either. It is the Hall of FAME though, and he was more famous than most other active fighters of his era even though several of them were more accomplished. I'm sure his untimely death played into his being inducted as well.

^That's a good point that's often overlooked. It's the hall of fame, not the hall of accomplishment.

"Hall of Accomplishment" doesn't have a great ring to it, does it?

Ambling Alp II wrote:"Hall of Accomplishment" doesn't have a great ring to it, does it?

Exactly. Luis Resto's a famous boxer. HBO even did a documentary about one of his fights. He doesn't belong in the HOF.

Rover wrote:

Ambling Alp II wrote:"Hall of Accomplishment" doesn't have a great ring to it, does it?

Exactly. Luis Resto's a famous boxer. HBO even did a documentary about one of his fights. He doesn't belong in the HOF.

I would say Luis Resto is an infamous boxer. In the same vein of Antonio Margarito.

polecateddy wrote: Naz gets marked down a lot because he was outpointed by Barrera. But people do tend to forget that the Naz who lived and breathed boxing at the start of his career. I think the version who say beat Steve Robinson could potentially stand Nelson on his head!

Highly unlikely in my opinion.

gilgamesh wrote:

Rover wrote:

Ambling Alp II wrote:"Hall of Accomplishment" doesn't have a great ring to it, does it?

Exactly. Luis Resto's a famous boxer. HBO even did a documentary about one of his fights. He doesn't belong in the HOF.

I would say Luis Resto is an infamous boxer. In the same vein of Antonio Margarito.

Margarito had achieved fame before the Mosley scandal--at least in Mexico.
But fair enough, back to my Butterbean example.