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The Better reign:

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 15:23
by Crease
With the highly anticipated Undisputed title fight potentially coming up, let's have a look at the last 10 weeks for both double unified champion:

Who do you think has the best reign?

Ezzard Charles:
Week 17: Drew against Tommy Loughran (WBC & WBO titles)
Week 16: Beat Sam Langford by UD (WBC & WBO titles)
Week 15: Beat Archie Moore by KO 8 (WBC & WBO titles)
Week 14: Beat Michael Spinks by SD (WBC & WBO titles)
Week 13: Beat Gene Tunney by UD (WBC Title)
Week 12: Beat Matthew Saad Muhammad by UD (WBC Title)
Week 11: Beat Bob Fitzsimmons by SD (WBC Title)
Week 10: Beat John Henry Lewis by UD (WBC Title)
Week 09: Beat Billy Fox by TKO 11 (WBC Title)
Week 08: Beat Maxie Rosenbloom by MD (WBC Title)
Week 07: Beat Michael Moorer by SD (WBC Title)

Tommy Gibbons:
Week 17: Beat Floyd Patterson by SD (IBF & WBA titles)
Week 16: Beat Harold Johnson by DQ (IBF & WBA titles)
Week 15: Beat Floyd Patterson by TKO 1 (IBF & WBA titles)
Week 14: Beat Joe Choynski by TKO 14 (IBF & WBA titles)
Week 13: Beat Tommy Loughran by SD (IBF & WBA titles)
Week 12: Beat Willie Pastrano by UD (IBF Title)
Week 11: Beat Bernard Hopkins by UD (IBF Title)
Week 10: Drew against Michael Moorer (IBF Title)
Week 09: Beat Archie Moore by SD (IBF Title)
Week 08: Beat Jimmy Bivins by UD (IBF Title)

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 15:24
by Crease
Ezzard Charles for me.

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 15:27
by gilgamesh
They're about dead even really. Only way to truly work this out is for them to mix it up and find out once and for all who is the better man.

If I had to pick I'd say Charles by a hair.

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 13:16
by BoxBuzz
Gibbons has no one rated as low as Billy Fox or Matthew Saad Muhammad on his resume.

Gibbons has won every one of his defenses. Charles can not say that. Though he hung on to his belts.

Charles never fought Bivins

Charles never fought Patterson

Charles never fought Johnson

Ok we each have an IBO champ on our list.....Choy and Rose

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 08:14
by Crease
BoxBuzz wrote:Gibbons has won every one of his defenses. Charles can not say that. Though he hung on to his belts.
Week 10, Buzz?
:??
;;-)

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 13:56
by BoxBuzz
I checked with Il Duce....it was a win....if ever their was one.

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 27 Aug 2013, 17:20
by p4p1
BoxBuzz wrote:I checked with Il Duce....it was a win....if ever their was one.
It was just some con by the west coast promoters.

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 16:37
by HomicideHenry
BoxBuzz wrote:Gibbons has no one rated as low as Billy Fox or Matthew Saad Muhammad on his resume.

Gibbons has won every one of his defenses. Charles can not say that. Though he hung on to his belts.

Charles never fought Bivins

Charles never fought Patterson

Charles never fought Johnson

Ok we each have an IBO champ on our list.....Choy and Rose
#1- Muhammad is an opponent who gets a pass, cus the first sim-run's were not really apart of the Week One-Week Thirty process; "Rematch Week" was out of Charles' hands else we would have picked a different opponent.

#2- The Charles camp elected Billy Fox only because we had already defended or had fought opponents multiple times---- which is why we started fighting guys we havent before. What's the honor or the pride in facing Tunney a third time? Lewis a third time? Etc.

#3- No, we acknowledge we never have faced Patterson or Johnson or Bivins, HOWEVER, we did face Archie Moore, Joey Maxim, Gene Tunney, Michael Spinks, Sam Langford, etc. Any one of those men are equal in worth to Patterson and Johnson and Bivins.

#4- Every disputable decision or loss there ever was we avenged (Lewis, Loughran, Fitzsimmons); Team Gibbons cannot say they ever did so throughout the sim

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 16:44
by gilgamesh
HomicideHenry wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:Gibbons has no one rated as low as Billy Fox or Matthew Saad Muhammad on his resume.

Gibbons has won every one of his defenses. Charles can not say that. Though he hung on to his belts.

Charles never fought Bivins

Charles never fought Patterson

Charles never fought Johnson

Ok we each have an IBO champ on our list.....Choy and Rose
#1- Muhammad is an opponent who gets a pass, cus the first sim-run's were not really apart of the Week One-Week Thirty process; "Rematch Week" was out of Charles' hands else we would have picked a different opponent.

#2- The Charles camp elected Billy Fox only because we had already defended or had fought opponents multiple times---- which is why we started fighting guys we havent before. What's the honor or the pride in facing Tunney a third time? Lewis a third time? Etc.

#3- No, we acknowledge we never have faced Patterson or Johnson or Bivins, HOWEVER, we did face Archie Moore, Joey Maxim, Gene Tunney, Michael Spinks, Sam Langford, etc. Any one of those men are equal in worth to Patterson and Johnson and Bivins.

#4- Every disputable decision or loss there ever was we avenged (Lewis, Loughran, Fitzsimmons); Team Gibbons cannot say they ever did so throughout the sim
Joey Maxim never fought Ezzard Charles. He fought Johnny Frankham and Willie Pastrano.

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 16:58
by HomicideHenry
My bad. It gets confusing sometimes lol.

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 22:20
by BoxBuzz
We have Moore and Langford in common.

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 22:24
by HomicideHenry
Yeah, and we beat Langford by unaminous decision, your man beat Langford by split.

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 22:32
by BoxBuzz
Yeah we split his noggin.

Re: The Better reign:

Posted: 30 Aug 2013, 19:10
by kevo
BoxBuzz wrote:Yeah we split his noggin.
:lol:

Vintage Buzz.