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Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 04 Sep 2013, 14:57
by ThereByTheGrace
For the problem avoider v Beltran?

Does anyone know who is? It obviously will have a major impact on the premature stoppage I fully expect to see!

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 04 Sep 2013, 15:23
by jameswilson
To be fair on Matchroom cards if the main event is a World title fight then it is nearly always a neutral referee.

Phil Edwards reffing Froch v Mack is the only one I can think of.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 04 Sep 2013, 15:40
by mrbishi

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 04 Sep 2013, 15:54
by ThereByTheGrace
mrbishi wrote:Its Phil Edwards
http://www.BS.com/burns-vs-bel ... rds--69255
Phil Edwards? Aw naw!!! :witzend:

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 04 Sep 2013, 16:08
by forcefraser
Edwards is an early stoppage merchant.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 04 Sep 2013, 16:16
by jameswilson
mrbishi wrote:Its Phil Edwards
http://www.BS.com/burns-vs-bel ... rds--69255
:lol:

Boy do I feel daft after what I said earlier.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 04 Sep 2013, 17:32
by expe
forcefraser wrote:Edwards is an early stoppage merchant.
Since when?

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 05 Sep 2013, 02:36
by WelshJack
expe wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Edwards is an early stoppage merchant.
Since when?
Stopping Buckland v Smith!!!!

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 05 Sep 2013, 06:51
by forcefraser
expe wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Edwards is an early stoppage merchant.
Since when?

Since Pajkic v Fury, McKenzie v Bellew 1, Brook v Jones 2 and Malik Scott. There are certainly refs who stop fights quicker than edwards, but he has stopped a few early enough.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 05 Sep 2013, 07:38
by forcefraser
I stand corrected, he didn`t ref the Brook v Jones rematch.

Still the Fury stoppage was iffy at best. I`d just like to see a non British ref for a world title fight involving a British fighter. Nothing against Edwards, he is one of the better refs that we have. It seems all british refs are trigger happy with the stoppages.

I don`t know how anyone can explain in the inconsistency in IJL letting Briggs take a total hammering from Vitali, yet stop Enzo after a couple of cuffing punches landed.

If I was that erratic are work, I`d be sacked.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 05 Sep 2013, 08:01
by expe
forcefraser wrote:I stand corrected, he didn`t ref the Brook v Jones rematch.

Still the Fury stoppage was iffy at best. I`d just like to see a non British ref for a world title fight involving a British fighter. Nothing against Edwards, he is one of the better refs that we have. It seems all british refs are trigger happy with the stoppages.

I don`t know how anyone can explain in the inconsistency in IJL letting Briggs take a total hammering from Vitali, yet stop Enzo after a couple of cuffing punches landed.

If I was that erratic are work, I`d be sacked.
The Briggs fight is why IJL steps in early, for me he worries too much about making a mistake like that again. I'd rather refs stepped in early than late and I would say that Edwards got Enzo-Mckenzie 2 spot on with the stoppage, rescued McKenzie at the perfect time, badly hurt and unable to defend himself.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 05 Sep 2013, 13:42
by Final round
He's a decent ref. :TU:

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 05 Sep 2013, 13:46
by spudder56
Final round wrote:He's a decent ref. :TU:
X2 but IMO John keane and Howard foster,Richie Davis are our top 3 refs

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 05 Sep 2013, 15:30
by Final round
spudder56 wrote:
Final round wrote:He's a decent ref. :TU:
X2 but IMO John keane and Howard foster,Richie Davis are our top 3 refs
Yeah I agree but Phil is up there.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 05 Sep 2013, 15:32
by lefty
Final round wrote:
spudder56 wrote:
Final round wrote:He's a decent ref. :TU:
X2 but IMO John keane and Howard foster,Richie Davis are our top 3 refs
Yeah I agree but Phil is up there.
Aslong as it's not Terry or Ian-John lewis we're alright haha.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 05 Sep 2013, 15:38
by expe
columbo wrote:
Final round wrote:
spudder56 wrote:
X2 but IMO John keane and Howard foster,Richie Davis are our top 3 refs
Yeah I agree but Phil is up there.
Aslong as it's not Terry or Ian-John lewis we're alright haha.
It doesn't surprise me when O'Connor stops a fight early, what does surprise me is that he moves quickly enough to stop fights early, he's a big lad. Whatever happens, if he steps between the fighters, that's that, there's no going round him or shoving him out of the way.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 07 Sep 2013, 18:27
by crusader
Horrible performance from Edwards. Let Burns hold endlessly and didn't even warn him, at least until maybe the final round or so.

Bad card from the mentioned Richie Davis too.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 07 Sep 2013, 18:32
by expe
crusader wrote:Horrible performance from Edwards. Let Burns hold endlessly and didn't even warn him, at least until maybe the final round or so.

Bad card from the mentioned Richie Davis too.
There were a lot of close rounds, 114-114 I'm ok with, I gave Burns 1,2,6,7,11 and 12 with the 5th level. The 2nd and 6th could have gone either way and the 5th could have gone to Beltran, any card from 115-113/112 Beltran to 114-114 is fine in my eyes. Don't know what Ortiz was watching to score it 115-112, that was utterly ridiculous.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 07 Sep 2013, 18:38
by crusader
I thought the second and fifth were clear rounds for Beltran, and I think to have Ricky winning more rounds than Beltran one must be generous to him when scoring.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 07 Sep 2013, 18:42
by lefty
Another shit performance from a british ref.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 07 Sep 2013, 19:38
by whiskey
He was a bit easy-going on the old "holding" I thought.

Re: Ref for Saturday night...

Posted: 07 Sep 2013, 19:39
by crusader
He was way too easy going on the holding. I'm not sure if he even gave Burns a warning.