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The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 10:05
by Controversial
I'm after examples of potentially great fights involving great or ATG fighters that were signed, close to signing (or even venues agreed and ticket sold) but fell through at the last moment for some reasons or other and never actually materialised.
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 11:03
by evrenb
Controversial wrote:I'm after examples of potentially great fights involving great or ATG fighters that were signed, close to signing (or even venues agreed and ticket sold) but fell through at the last moment for some reasons or other and never actually materialised.
Tyson vs Holyfield 1991
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 11:09
by SaadOffTheDeck
There was a whole card that dude Howard Smith tried to put together at MSG. I don't remember the exact fights but I think it was a Saad/Mustafa rematch, Gomez/Lopez, Cooney/Weaver & maybe Duran/Arguello. Then again, it might not be any of them. Whatever the fights were, I don't think any of them actually happened.
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 11:12
by evrenb
Controversial wrote:I'm after examples of potentially great fights involving great or ATG fighters that were signed, close to signing (or even venues agreed and ticket sold) but fell through at the last moment for some reasons or other and never actually materialised.
Mayweather vs Pacquiao
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 11:35
by laye88
aaron pryor vs alexis arguello
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 12:21
by gilgamesh
evrenb wrote:Controversial wrote:I'm after examples of potentially great fights involving great or ATG fighters that were signed, close to signing (or even venues agreed and ticket sold) but fell through at the last moment for some reasons or other and never actually materialised.
Mayweather vs Pacquiao
^That's the biggest fight never to have happened in Boxing history in my opinion...or at least right up there, and surely would've made the most bank.
This one was cancelled the day before it and it broke my heart as I was really, really looking forward to it as I'm sure a lot of you were. Castillo-Corrales III.
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 12:26
by gilgamesh
Il Duce wrote:Cassius Clay vs. Wilt Chamberlin
Would have been the 'biggest event' ever.
But everyone knows,,,,,,, that Nate Thurmond would have beat both of them on the same night.
I don't think that would've been looked at as anything more than a novelty exhibition. I doubt very much it would've been the biggest event ever in Boxing.
Biggest exhibition ever, maybe.
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 13:54
by Controversial
evrenb wrote:Controversial wrote:I'm after examples of potentially great fights involving great or ATG fighters that were signed, close to signing (or even venues agreed and ticket sold) but fell through at the last moment for some reasons or other and never actually materialised.
Tyson vs Holyfield 1991
They did end up fighting though
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 13:56
by Controversial
Il Duce wrote:Cassius Clay vs. George Chuvalo {late-1963}.
Bill Faversham agreed to this bout, but later realized that at the time the Canadian was
too rough for the 'boxer-stylist' youngster Mr. Clay, and then re-canted.
Negotiations for Sonny Liston - Cassius Clay 'Big Money' bout were already ongoing, and the risk
of losing to George Chuvalo was 'too high' on the chart.
They did eventually fight though, I'm after examples where the fight never happened
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 14:16
by Tomasino
Hagler vs McCallum
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 16:49
by evrenb
Okay....
Ali vs teofilio stevenson
Sonny.liston vs joe frazier in 1968
George foreman vs earnie shavers
Rocky marciano vs floyd patterson...
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 17:05
by pbchron
Mike Rossman waiting in the ring for Victor Galindez to appear and Victor would not come in the ring. Rossman was never the same after that episode.
George Godfrey vs. Harry Wills. Wills refused huge offers to meet Godfrey from Philly promoters Herman Taylor and Bob Gunnis; he refused an offer from Tex Rickard in New York, and Los Angeles and San Francisco promoters tendered Wills large guarantees for the bout. Obviously Godfrey would have the handcuffs off and Wills' management wasn't interested.
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 17:15
by dr_devious
Bowe v Lewis
Bowe v Tyson
McCallum v Leonard / Hearns / Duran
Pac v Mayweather
Pryor v Leonard / Duran
Jones v McClellan
Holmes v Foreman (1979)
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 17:48
by thunderfromdownunder
Mosley v Trinidad, would have been a great fight
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 18:28
by Controversial
dr_devious wrote:Bowe v Lewis
Bowe v Tyson
McCallum v Leonard / Hearns / Duran
Pac v Mayweather
Pryor v Leonard / Duran
Jones v McClellan
Holmes v Foreman (1979)
evrenb wrote:Okay....
Ali vs teofilio stevenson
Sonny.liston vs joe frazier in 1968
George foreman vs earnie shavers
Rocky marciano vs floyd patterson...
Are these examples of fights that were actually due to happen, close to being signed and fell through or just fights you would have wanted to see? I'm after examples where the fight was close to being signed (or signed) but fell though and never took place.
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 18:51
by yancey
Il Duce wrote:Cassius Clay vs. Wilt Chamberlin
Would have been the 'biggest event' ever.
But everyone knows,,,,,,, that Nate Thurmond would have beat both of them on the same night.
Walt Bellamy might have wanted some of that action.

Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 19:05
by SaadOffTheDeck
None of them wanted a piece of Mario Lucas.
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 19:13
by yancey
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:None of them wanted a piece of Mario Lucas.
Maurice Lucas?
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 20:27
by SaadOffTheDeck
yancey wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:None of them wanted a piece of Mario Lucas.
Maurice Lucas?
Yes
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 07:15
by Crease
Collins vs Calzaghe 97ish.
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 09:14
by klompton
I think Ali neglected to pay someone's mother child support...
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 09:15
by SaadOffTheDeck
Controversial wrote:dr_devious wrote:Bowe v Lewis
Bowe v Tyson
McCallum v Leonard / Hearns / Duran
Pac v Mayweather
Pryor v Leonard / Duran
Jones v McClellan
Holmes v Foreman (1979)
evrenb wrote:Okay....
Ali vs teofilio stevenson
Sonny.liston vs joe frazier in 1968
George foreman vs earnie shavers
Rocky marciano vs floyd patterson...
Are these examples of fights that were actually due to happen, close to being signed and fell through or just fights you would have wanted to see? I'm after examples where the fight was close to being signed (or signed) but fell though and never took place.
Bowe/Lewis & Pac/Floyd are the only two that fit your criteria.
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 09:39
by scallum
Imo opinion Greb vs Dempsey is #1.Greb would probably have his proper placing as greatest fighter ever if the Dempsey fight wouldve taken place
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 12:17
by Nile4000
Greg Page vs Teofilo Stevenson(amateur)1978
Eusebio Pedroza vs Azumah Nelson 1984
Johnny Verderosa vs Ray Mancini 1981-1982
Alexis Arguello vs Salvador Sanchez 1982-1983
Micheal Spinks vs Matthew Saad Muhammad 1981
Milton McCory vs Marlon Starling 1983
Re: The greatest fights to never happen
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 12:36
by raylawpc
Three from the distant past:
Jim Jeffries v. Jack Johnson . . . in 1905, not 1910. Jeffries at the height of his prowess.
Tommy Ryan v. Joe Walcott.
Benny Leonard challenging for Mickey Walker's welterweight crown. This fight was signed and scheduled, but Leonard broke his thumb in a tune-up fight, and retired.