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Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 05:10
by Chambers2
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/24016104
Ricky Burns will fight again, says manager Alex Morrison
Ricky Burns says he will definitely fight again despite breaking a jaw in his world title defence on Saturday, according to his manager.
The WBO lightweight champion is due out of hospital later following surgery.
Promoter Eddie Hearn said there was "no guarantee" the Scot, 30, would box again, never mind give Raymundo Beltran a rematch after their draw.
"Ricky will definitely fight again, one million per cent," manager Alex Morrison told BBC Scotland.
"I spoke to him this morning and he is definitely coming back, although when that will be, we don't know."
Saturday's fight at the SECC ended in controversy, with Beltran, his management and many other observers believing the 32-year-old Mexican had won.
Burns's camp say their fighter sustained a broken jaw in the second round.
He had an operation to insert titanium plates on Sunday amid speculation about his boxing future and another match-up between the two fighters.
Hearn suggested that, if he did return to the ring, Burns might have to move up a weight.
The promoter and Beltran's manager, Steve Feder, did not think a rematch was likely, with the latter suggesting his boxer would not be keen to return to Scotland.
However, Morrison believes Burns owes Beltran another shot at the title - and says the Coatbridge fighter is keen for it happen.
"It's the moral thing to do," he said. "Ricky wants to fight him again here in Scotland in front of another packed crowd.
"But it will only take place here in Scotland.
"If Beltran wants a rematch, he'll have to come here again."
On Monday evening, Burns took to the social network Twitter and seemed to echo Hearn's earlier promise that the fighter would return for a rematch with Beltran, posting: "Thanks every1 for the messages, fingers crossed the damage isn't too bad and we can get the rematch on the go."
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 06:17
by Spiker
Why should he come to Scotland to get robbed again?
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 06:39
by BigEars
Spiker wrote:Why should he come to Scotland to get robbed again?
To earn good money ?
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 06:52
by Chambers2
Spiker wrote:Why should he come to Scotland to get robbed again?
To win a world title?
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 06:59
by whiskey
This would sell better than any other fight i reckon.
Given the massive publicity the first one caused, it would do well.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 07:01
by jameswilson
I think unless there is a rematch Ricky would get slaughtered by non British fans. He has to rectify this straight away. It's probably gonna take a fairly big purse to get Beltran over here again but if that's what it takes then so be it.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 07:10
by davie
Beltran is going to look at this and figure, "I couldn't knock him out despite him fighting 10 rounds with a broken jaw, so i'm not going to stop him and i'm not going to get the decision."
equally burns will not go to the states, burns is unlikely to knock beltran out and will certainly struggle to get a decision away from home considering the history of this match up.
short of paying beltran a fortune i don't know if this will go ahead
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 07:12
by TheCobra
How many tickets does Beltran sell? I would suggest not many, therefore Burns' camp hold all the aces here, Beltran will have to go to Scotland again - that's where the crowd will be, the Sky TV coverage, the sponsorship etc etc.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 07:14
by davie
to be fair, considering the reaction to the decision from saturdays fight, we might actually find the judges will be more inclined to lean towards beltran in a rematch, even in scotland.
it wouldn't be the first time officials tried to right a wrong
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 08:02
by ThereByTheGrace
Burns won't travel to fight better fighters. He's finding it hard to get past guys he should be beating at home.
First broner, now Crawford. Beltran will say no and he will move up a weight and the excuse will be "na Beltran didn't want a rematch"
Why should he come back here to get jobbed again to a lesser fighter.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 08:05
by danconnollyeire
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Burns won't travel to fight better fighters. He's finding it hard to get past guys he should be beating at home.
First broner, now Crawford. Beltran will say no and he will move up a weight and the excuse will be "na Beltran didn't want a rematch"
Why should he come back here to get jobbed again to a lesser fighter.
This
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 08:07
by Trojans44
Its the only world title fight Beltran is likely to get. I give Burns credit for wanting the rematch and accept the argument it cant happen in the states due to finances. A rematch in Glasgow is about as fair as Burns can realistically offer.
Thing is though this all predicated on him coming back soon. He might be out for about a year. Beltran might have had 2 more losses by then. Burns might also come back as a Lww.
Whatever he does he might want to approach fights with an actual gameplan for now on.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 08:19
by jameswilson
I don't think a rematch in the US is impossible. Neither are ticket sellers in the States. But there are huge main events over there that they could be chief support to. I mean with respect Danny Garcia v Mathysse is a bigger fight and is on the undercard of Floyd v Canelo.
So whilst both sides may not want it to happen over in the US, to say it absolutely can't is rubbish.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 13:08
by expe
Trojans44 wrote:Its the only world title fight Beltran is likely to get. I give Burns credit for wanting the rematch and accept the argument it cant happen in the states due to finances. A rematch in Glasgow is about as fair as Burns can realistically offer.
Thing is though this all predicated on him coming back soon. He might be out for about a year. Beltran might have had 2 more losses by then. Burns might also come back as a Lww.
Whatever he does he might want to approach fights with an actual gameplan for now on.
The jaw shouldn't take more than 8 weeks to heal, more time would be needed for it to take punches probably, so maybe another 4-6 weeks. So he could be back sparring in 3 months, with a 10-12 week camp, he should be back around March/April.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 13:30
by Parson Cross
Am I missing something here ?
What about what the WBO want to happen ?
What about Burns and his mandatory ?
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 13:46
by expe
Parson Cross wrote:Am I missing something here ?
What about what the WBO want to happen ?
What about Burns and his mandatory ?
The WBO, enforcing 2 mandatories in less than a year?
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 13:55
by Parson Cross
But different if the mandatory is someone you want as your Champion ..........
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 15:08
by Horse
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Why should he come back here to get jobbed again to a lesser fighter.
What are the other options?
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 15:10
by palooka
Wouldn't his strong showing v Burns elevate him in the rankings? Would he get into a more favourable position for a shot at another champion?
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 15:12
by lefty
Parson Cross wrote:But different if the mandatory is someone you want as your Champion ..........
How does that work parsons? I mean how do the governing bodies decide on who they would like as champion, is purely based on what the fighter can bring in on sanctioning fees or?
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 15:12
by Horse
palooka wrote:Wouldn't his strong showing v Burns elevate him in the rankings? Would he get into a more favourable position for a shot at another champion?
He'll probably get paid more against Burns.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 15:14
by palooka
Yes, maybe but he may get a shot in the US; there must be a million things going through his mind at the minute.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 15:17
by ThereByTheGrace
Horse wrote:ThereByTheGrace wrote:Why should he come back here to get jobbed again to a lesser fighter.
What are the other options?
Beltran may be a good option for the other champions at the weight. They may see him as a fighter who they can beat, but was hard done by not to get the decision, so the fans may want to see the fight.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 15:19
by Tom Ford
Should be a 50/50 purse split.
Re: Burns to fight again and he wants a rematch in SCotland
Posted: 10 Sep 2013, 15:36
by Horse
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Beltran may be a good option for the other champions at the weight. They may see him as a fighter who they can beat, but was hard done by not to get the decision, so the fans may want to see the fight.
He'll get paid less than in a Burns rematch though won't he?
Are Vazquez or Abril decent ticket sellers?