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Where does Floyd go from here?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 06:34
by Jack B
I didn't watch the fight last night, but from all reports Floyd cruised it. Although it was scored an MD, it sounded like a shut out was a fairer reflection of events.

So the question is, where does Floyd go from here? He has 4 fights left on his current contract. He has just completely dominated the guy who was seen as the best hope to defeat him. It leaves a conundrum for the television execs if they want to generate interest and revenue.

You look at the contenders at 140/147/154 and it is pretty barren. Pacquiao would still be big but it's not going to happen with the HBO-Top Rank/Showtime-Golden Boy divide. He's already defeated Marquez comfortably. All other potential challengers (Lara, Bradley, Alexander, Maidana, Broner, Thurman, Garcia, Khan, Alvarado, Rios) would be out of their depth.

I think if Floyd wants to pursue a true challenge and secure all-time greatness he should go up to 160 and fight Sergio Martinez. I don't know Sergio's situation with HBO but DiBella promotes him so that's one stumbling block out the way. He's looked old in his last few fights and by May 2014 will be coming off another big injury and a year's inactivity. It's a very winnable fight for Mayweather and will be great for his legacy.

Thoughts people?

Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 07:14
by Tom Ford
Pacman? Nah.

Sergio at 160?

Whoever it is loses.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 07:31
by Deserter
Only one I'd give a chance to is GGG, but unfair to expect Mayweather to move up in weight so much just to have a competitive fight.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 07:39
by ALI
If Bradley beats Marquez he's the favourite IMO. The winner of Alexander/Khan is also a strong possibility. There's the Rios/Pacquiao winner to be considered but if the victor stays with Top Rank the chances are remote.

Martinez would be my choice. Its unfair to ask Mayweather to go to 160 IMO, but with Martinez showing obvious signs of wear i think Mayweather would win comfortably. It would be a great win for him and further cement his legacy as one of the very best ever.

He could also choose to unify the division by fighting Molina, but its not a very appealing match up.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 07:51
by palooka
There's no more cementing needed; Floyd is the very best of this era and that's it. He'd fit in with any time in boxing and I can imagine he'd have stopped more men if he boxed in the 15 round era; he wasn't out of breath after 12 rounds last nights.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 07:54
by whiskey
Brian Rose.

It's got mega fight all over it.

Blackpool is the Vegas of the north as well.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 07:58
by palooka
G0mez wrote:Brian Rose.

It's got mega fight all over it.

Blackpool is the Vegas of the north as well.
Away from the strip Vegas looks like Blackpool

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 08:21
by Matchfixer
palooka wrote:There's no more cementing needed; Floyd is the very best of this era and that's it. He'd fit in with any time in boxing and I can imagine he'd have stopped more men if he boxed in the 15 round era; he wasn't out of breath after 12 rounds last nights.
In terms of ability I'd put him behind RJJ but depends on your version of era. In terms of negativity I'd put him near Hopkins.

I don't know about not out of breath, he faded in the later rounds as Alvarez stepped up the pressure.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 08:22
by jessi
Deserter wrote:Only one I'd give a chance to is GGG, but unfair to expect Mayweather to move up in weight so much just to have a competitive fight.
Totally agree, his the only man who would start favorite against him, would love to see it but it just won't happen ! Khan Bradley or Garcia next !

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 08:25
by ShadrachSimmo
Trout.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 08:26
by palooka
Matchfixer wrote:
palooka wrote:There's no more cementing needed; Floyd is the very best of this era and that's it. He'd fit in with any time in boxing and I can imagine he'd have stopped more men if he boxed in the 15 round era; he wasn't out of breath after 12 rounds last nights.
In terms of ability I'd put him behind RJJ but depends on your version of era. In terms of negativity I'd put him near Hopkins.

I don't know about not out of breath, he faded in the later rounds as Alvarez stepped up the pressure.
I disagree, Mayweather took the foot off as he had 8 rounds in the bag, whenever he opened up Canelo looked sorry for himself; if the authorities had decided that this were to be 15 round bout (imaginative I know) then Alvarez would have been far unhappier. Floyd was better in every way including stamina and gameness - when the bout was going Floyds' way Alvarez could have gone for it in a big way, Mayweather took the fight out of him.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 08:26
by jessi
Matchfixer wrote:
palooka wrote:There's no more cementing needed; Floyd is the very best of this era and that's it. He'd fit in with any time in boxing and I can imagine he'd have stopped more men if he boxed in the 15 round era; he wasn't out of breath after 12 rounds last nights.
In terms of ability I'd put him behind RJJ but depends on your version of era. In terms of negativity I'd put him near Hopkins.

I don't know about not out of breath, he faded in the later rounds as Alvarez stepped up the pressure.
I wouldn't say he was out of breath but you bloody well should be tired after 12 rounds !
As far as greatness goes his one of the best ever, there's just no doubt about it, rjj was technically the best in my era but I think Mayweather has just past him

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 08:52
by danconnollyeire
No one between lightweight and light middle even troubles Floyd. He should face Wlad or haye

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 08:56
by orbtastic
He'll possibly go for Bradley, should he beat Marquez.

I suspect he's looking to retire undefeated at that magical 50-0 mark.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:02
by palooka
jessi wrote:
Matchfixer wrote:
palooka wrote:There's no more cementing needed; Floyd is the very best of this era and that's it. He'd fit in with any time in boxing and I can imagine he'd have stopped more men if he boxed in the 15 round era; he wasn't out of breath after 12 rounds last nights.
In terms of ability I'd put him behind RJJ but depends on your version of era. In terms of negativity I'd put him near Hopkins.

I don't know about not out of breath, he faded in the later rounds as Alvarez stepped up the pressure.
I wouldn't say he was out of breath but you bloody well should be tired after 12 rounds !
As far as greatness goes his one of the best ever, there's just no doubt about it, rjj was technically the best in my era but I think Mayweather has just past him
I'm a little older (43) and think that Leonard was on a par with Floyd, a young Roy Jones was some fighter too though the drugs thing does take it away. Floyd would get into any era and there's no one round his weight would show him up, even with 100's of bouts experience.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:04
by orbtastic
I'm fairly convinced Leonard would beat him.

Hearns I can make a case for him KOing him but also one where Mayweather wins on points.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:08
by palooka
Benitez v Floyd would have been very good and it depends which Leonard turns up; Hearns, I don't think at welter would have connected enough - not every Hearns fight was a Duran KO.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:14
by orbtastic
Leonard was big at 147, he had it all - Chin, speed, power, flash, ability. He also didn't clown around as much there and he wouldn't get dumped on his backside by the likes of Kevin Howard. I think a pre retina problems Leonard takes him.

Always difficult to say with these sorts of fantasy match-ups, but if he can take a prime Benitez who was something else, defensively, then I think it's fair to say he could take a low output, shoulder rolling Mayweather.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:16
by palooka
Though Floyd would have adjusted his game to either, Leonard had more power and that's it; there'd have been 3 bouts between the to decide I think.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:17
by Monte Fisto
I think only a live pacman, with his movement and angles would be a competitive fight. I think floyd knows this.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:20
by Tom Ford
Pac/Khan/Broner/Brook.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:23
by palooka
Tom Ford wrote:Pac/Khan/Broner/Brook.
Kell Brook?

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:43
by Tom Ford
palooka wrote:
Tom Ford wrote:Pac/Khan/Broner/Brook.
Kell Brook?
After he beats Khan - if they ever fight!

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:48
by palooka
Tom; Kell beat Carson Jones last time out and is boxing Senchenko next time out; surely with all the talent he has; he has to have some proven big wins before he can cash in on a Floyd bout; there are other boxers who have won and lost world titles and boxed high level men for ages who want a go; (this is not a dig at Brook); Danny Garcia is not being mooted, because Brook is 7 pounds heavier dos not mean they are in the same ball park.

Re: Mayweather. Who do you want to see next?

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 09:50
by Tom Ford
palooka wrote:Tom; Kell beat Carson Jones last time out and is boxing Senchenko next time out; surely with all the talent he has; he has to have some proven big wins before he can cash in on a Floyd bout; there are other boxers who have won and lost world titles and boxed high level men for ages who want a go; (this is not a dig at Brook); Danny Garcia is not being mooted, because Brook is 7 pounds heavier dos not mean they are in the same ball park.
I agree with you. Brook has to beat a Khan to get noticed, time will tell!

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