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He got some unjust criticism on here after the first Brook-Jones fight for shouting at people in his corner. He was actually telling a couple of people to get out of the corner and return to their seats. Since then Brook has stopped Jones and Kid Galahad has become the latest British champion from the Wincobank gym yet there has been no praise on here.

Galahad was in fantastic shape and followed the advice from the corner to step it up after the 8th and soon had Dickens out of there.

yea good shout, told him that the body shots was getting to him and I thought that was spot on, the ingle gym really is something special, not everybodys cup of tea with the style they teach but you just cant argue with the results, champion after champion at all levels, great work

All the best next week Curtis - let's see another scouser on the canvas!

The Ingles have churned out some champions. At British level, Kid Galahad joins Herol Graham, Brian Anderson, Slugger O'Toole, Johnny Nelson, Neville Brown, Ryan Rhodes, Chris Saunders, Junior Witter, Esham Pickering, Jon Keeton, Jon Thaxton, Carl Johanesson and Kell Brook. Apologies if I've missed any.

Why do want to see another scouser on the canvas lad ?

Pugilist-specialist wrote:All the best next week Curtis - let's see another scouser on the canvas!

The Ingles have churned out some champions. At British level, Kid Galahad joins Herol Graham, Brian Anderson, Slugger O'Toole, Johnny Nelson, Neville Brown, Ryan Rhodes, Chris Saunders, Junior Witter, Esham Pickering, Jon Keeton, Jon Thaxton, Carl Johanesson and Kell Brook. Apologies if I've missed any.

Carl wasn't a product of Wincobank.

mickey1975 wrote:

Pugilist-specialist wrote:All the best next week Curtis - let's see another scouser on the canvas!

The Ingles have churned out some champions. At British level, Kid Galahad joins Herol Graham, Brian Anderson, Slugger O'Toole, Johnny Nelson, Neville Brown, Ryan Rhodes, Chris Saunders, Junior Witter, Esham Pickering, Jon Keeton, Jon Thaxton, Carl Johanesson and Kell Brook. Apologies if I've missed any.

Carl wasn't a product of Wincobank.

neither was neville brown

Vincent stevenson wrote:Why do want to see another scouser on the canvas lad ?

I thought that was a weird choice of words

spudder56 wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

Pugilist-specialist wrote:All the best next week Curtis - let's see another scouser on the canvas!

The Ingles have churned out some champions. At British level, Kid Galahad joins Herol Graham, Brian Anderson, Slugger O'Toole, Johnny Nelson, Neville Brown, Ryan Rhodes, Chris Saunders, Junior Witter, Esham Pickering, Jon Keeton, Jon Thaxton, Carl Johanesson and Kell Brook. Apologies if I've missed any.

Carl wasn't a product of Wincobank.

neither was neville brown

I was going to say the same but thought it nit-picking. I mean, Brown's no more a product of the Ingle Camp than DLH is a product of the Kronk Gym.

Vincent stevenson wrote:Why do want to see another scouser on the canvas lad ?

Because from that position he will find it difficult to render Curtis unconscious.

Chris W 1982 wrote:

Vincent stevenson wrote:Why do want to see another scouser on the canvas lad ?

I thought that was a weird choice of words

Apologies. Didn't mean to offend.

Brown and Johanneson both were trained by the Ingles from before they were champions and had them in their corner when they won the titles. Paul Jones was trained by the Ingles from a child, but people don't seem to class him as one of their world champions

The other 12 fighters listed turned pro with them and won a British title. It's a fantastic record which, with the exception of Curtis, has had the expected bitter response.

Let's hear it for the Ingles

Big congratulations from me to dom and the st thomas team.

orbtastic wrote: I was going to say the same but thought it nit-picking. I mean, Brown's no more a product of the Ingle Camp than DLH is a product of the Kronk Gym.

Fair point, but Brown had won nothing as a pro before he trained there.

Carl was a product of Burmantofts in Leeds and then the Army. Did all his training in Leeds, regardless of who was in the corner fight night.

Nobody's being bitter? Just establishing facts.

Brown was with Duff when he won the British championship? I thought he only switched to the Ingles when he signed with Warren, around the time of the Cummins fight?

I seem to remember it being that way, but am prepared to be proved wrong.

mickey1975 wrote:Carl was a product of Burmantofts in Leeds and then the Army. Did all his training in Leeds, regardless of who was in the corner fight night.

He didn't do all his training in Leeds - he used to travel to Wincobank as well.

orbtastic wrote:Nobody's being bitter? Just establishing facts.

Brown was with Duff when he won the British championship? I thought he only switched to the Ingles when he signed with Warren, around the time of the Cummins fight?

I seem to remember it being that way, but am prepared to be proved wrong.

The bitter comment wasn't aimed at you! No, he was training at Wincobank from way before that. People forget that Naz was with Duff.

mickey1975 wrote:Carl was a product of Burmantofts in Leeds and then the Army. Did all his training in Leeds, regardless of who was in the corner fight night.

And he turned pro in America too yeah?

Pugilist-specialist wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:Carl was a product of Burmantofts in Leeds and then the Army. Did all his training in Leeds, regardless of who was in the corner fight night.

He didn't do all his training in Leeds - he used to travel to Wincobank as well.

Maybe so, they can't take the credit for him though. Did 90% of his training in Leeds. Same with Levi Pattison and Jesse (Danny) James. They trained at amatuer clubs so couldn't broadcast it. Still had John as their manager on paper though.

Coco wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:Carl was a product of Burmantofts in Leeds and then the Army. Did all his training in Leeds, regardless of who was in the corner fight night.

And he turned pro in America too yeah?

Yes, then a tragic thing happened and he came home.

mickey1975 wrote: Maybe so, they can't take the credit for him though. Did 90% of his training in Leeds. Same with Levi Pattison and Jesse (Danny) James. They trained at amatuer clubs so couldn't broadcast it. Still had John as their manager on paper though.

Before his fights he trained at Wincobank 2 days a week. He was guided to a British title which he won and defended twice culminating in a win over Ricky Burns. He had a 100% record with the Ingles. The fight after when he did no training in Sheffield and they weren't in his corner he got knocked out.

Fair enough if you think they should get absolutely zero credit. Take him out of the list - take out Neville Brown who trained solidly at Wincobank for about a year before his Frank Grant victory. It's still a good record. A few European champs, 3 world, or by your criteria 4 as they trained Paul Jones from a child and he turned pro with them.

Sheffield wasn't previously known as a fight city. Outside of Clinton Woods who only trained there briefly as a kid, I can't think of a Sheffield fighter in the last 50 years to get to British level who didn't go through the Wincobank system

Not trying to take anything away from anyone at Wincobank. Truly remarkable what they have done, and continue to do, over the years! Was only trying to give Carl's gym credit! I'm sure he learnt loads there but is a product of Burmantofts!

mickey1975 wrote:Carl was a product of Burmantofts in Leeds and then the Army. Did all his training in Leeds, regardless of who was in the corner fight night.

I boxed him twice when he was boxing for burmantofts

tear up wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:Carl was a product of Burmantofts in Leeds and then the Army. Did all his training in Leeds, regardless of who was in the corner fight night.

I boxed him twice when he was boxing for burmantofts

He was a good kid, Michael, wasn't he? Did you win?

mickey1975 wrote:

tear up wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:Carl was a product of Burmantofts in Leeds and then the Army. Did all his training in Leeds, regardless of who was in the corner fight night.

I boxed him twice when he was boxing for burmantofts

He was a good kid, Michael, wasn't he? Did you win?

I was junior aba champion movin up he beat me fair and square the. Boxed him in nabc s I had to box twice he was secound opponent I thought I won easy they give him on a close decision he was classed at the time best thing to come out of Leeds for years he went on to bag all 3 title s in one season school s junior aba s and nabc s he was a great kid always strong mate