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Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 14:52
by JimStone
Could a fight with Canelo be Barker's best chance of a really big payday?

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 14:56
by expe
There's bigger names out there for Alvarez to fight like Cotto, Lara, Quillin etc. Barker's best hope of a payday is a big domestic fight with Murray or Macklin next year.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 14:58
by lefty
More chance of Canelo fighting Quillin that Barker if he decides to go up to middleweight.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 15:01
by JimStone
Possibly. I think the bait of a middleweight title belt being up for grabs in his comeback fight may tempt Canelo's handlers. I'd definitely test the water if I was looking after Barker.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 15:03
by lefty
Aden wrote:Possibly. I think the bait of a middleweight title belt being up for grabs in his comeback fight may tempt Canelo's handlers. I'd definitely test the water if I was looking after Barker.
Quillin has a middleweight belt aswell though and is also with Golden boy.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 15:07
by ShadrachSimmo
Can't see Canelo beating the top middleweights at the moment.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 15 Sep 2013, 15:11
by lefty
ShadrachSimmo wrote:Can't see Canelo beating the top middleweights at the moment.
I think he's too small myself. I know that seems silly seeing how much he weighs come fight night but whilst he's a thick set guy he's pretty short to be competing at middleweight.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 13:00
by Bricks
Quillin,golovkin and even sturm and Martinez are too seasoned for Alvarez who ,and its easy to say in hindsight but I was saying it all along is a vastly overrated fighter

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 17:01
by billy nelson
mugabi wrote:Quillin,golovkin and even sturm and Martinez are too seasoned for Alvarez who ,and its easy to say in hindsight but I was saying it all along is a vastly overrated fighter
Canelo would beat Quillan and Strum with ease mate, Golovkin is another matter based on the power hes got and Martinez would also be hard but winnable

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 17:58
by tear up
billy nelson wrote:
mugabi wrote:Quillin,golovkin and even sturm and Martinez are too seasoned for Alvarez who ,and its easy to say in hindsight but I was saying it all along is a vastly overrated fighter
Canelo would beat Quillan and Strum with ease mate, Golovkin is another matter based on the power hes got and Martinez would also be hard but winnable

I take golovkin to beat them all he looks the real deal

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:11
by brian13
Why would Barker go to Texas as the champion. It is just as bad as Germany, if not worse.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:20
by WelshJack
brian13 wrote:Why would Barker go to Texas as the champion. It is just as bad as Germany, if not worse.
This. I'm sure Barker is happy to face Sturm and Geale in the UK rather than go away AGAIN

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:27
by expe
WelshJack wrote:
brian13 wrote:Why would Barker go to Texas as the champion. It is just as bad as Germany, if not worse.
This. I'm sure Barker is happy to face Sturm and Geale in the UK rather than go away AGAIN
Outside of a fight with Murray, Macklin and possibly Lee, going to the US will be Barker's best option for a payday.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:30
by lefty
expe wrote:
WelshJack wrote:
brian13 wrote:Why would Barker go to Texas as the champion. It is just as bad as Germany, if not worse.
This. I'm sure Barker is happy to face Sturm and Geale in the UK rather than go away AGAIN
Outside of a fight with Murray, Macklin and possibly Lee, going to the US will be Barker's best option for a payday.
Yeah exactly. The money would be what causes him to go over there. There's talk that he might go to Germany to defend his belt against Sturm as it is because Sturm has big financial backing.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:37
by WelshJack
expe wrote:
WelshJack wrote:
brian13 wrote:Why would Barker go to Texas as the champion. It is just as bad as Germany, if not worse.
This. I'm sure Barker is happy to face Sturm and Geale in the UK rather than go away AGAIN
Outside of a fight with Murray, Macklin and possibly Lee, going to the US will be Barker's best option for a payday.
Sturm, Geale then Murray and if he loses retirement will surely add up to more than a Canelo loss?

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:42
by lefty
expe wrote:
WelshJack wrote:
brian13 wrote:Why would Barker go to Texas as the champion. It is just as bad as Germany, if not worse.
This. I'm sure Barker is happy to face Sturm and Geale in the UK rather than go away AGAIN
Outside of a fight with Murray, Macklin and possibly Lee, going to the US will be Barker's best option for a payday.
Sturm, Geale then Murray and if he loses retirement will surely add up to more than a Canelo loss?[/quote]

There's no guarantee he'll win any of those fights though. Geale would be better prepared for Barker next time, Sturm is a shrewd operator and Murray is quite possibly the best middleweight in the UK.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:45
by WelshJack
I agree Murray is the best that's why I stopped naming fights after that as I think Murray beats him and Barker calls it a day as those are 3 really tough fights, but i'm sure he would win the first two.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:49
by expe
WelshJack wrote:I agree Murray is the best that's why I stopped naming fights after that as I think Murray beats him and Barker calls it a day as those are 3 really tough fights, but i'm sure he would win the first two.
He'd do well to beat Sturm in Germany, against him you need to win 8 rounds clearly to realistically have a hope of getting the nod and even that wasn't enough for Macklin.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:50
by crusader
expe wrote:
WelshJack wrote:I agree Murray is the best that's why I stopped naming fights after that as I think Murray beats him and Barker calls it a day as those are 3 really tough fights, but i'm sure he would win the first two.
He'd do well to beat Sturm in Germany, against him you need to win 8 rounds clearly to realistically have a hope of getting the nod and even that wasn't enough for Macklin.
I thought Sturm beat Murray, Soliman, and Geale, yet he didn't get the decision in any of those fights. If anything, the judging of his recent fights has been harsh to him.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:53
by WelshJack
crusader wrote:
expe wrote:
WelshJack wrote:I agree Murray is the best that's why I stopped naming fights after that as I think Murray beats him and Barker calls it a day as those are 3 really tough fights, but i'm sure he would win the first two.
He'd do well to beat Sturm in Germany, against him you need to win 8 rounds clearly to realistically have a hope of getting the nod and even that wasn't enough for Macklin.
I thought Sturm beat Murray, Soliman, and Geale, yet he didn't get the decision in any of those fights. If anything, the judging of his recent fights has been harsh to him.
I meant Barker would win in the UK. Is that fight 100% in Germany?

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:54
by lefty
crusader wrote:
expe wrote:
WelshJack wrote:I agree Murray is the best that's why I stopped naming fights after that as I think Murray beats him and Barker calls it a day as those are 3 really tough fights, but i'm sure he would win the first two.
He'd do well to beat Sturm in Germany, against him you need to win 8 rounds clearly to realistically have a hope of getting the nod and even that wasn't enough for Macklin.
I thought Sturm beat Murray, Soliman, and Geale, yet he didn't get the decision in any of those fights. If anything, the judging of his recent fights has been harsh to him.
I meant Barker would win in the UK. Is that fight 100% in Germany?[/quote]

No. He hasnt been agreed anywhere yet I dont think.

Re: Barker vs Canelo in Texas

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:56
by crusader
I meant Barker would win in the UK. Is that fight 100% in Germany?
I wasn't responding to your post.