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The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 12:53
by Jack B
Just seen an advert for tomorrow night's show - must say I'm slightly underwhelmed.

Great to see Bruno and Lewis on there, and Fury will be good value, but I can't see that Joshua will offer much (similarly to Ogogo in the first one, he just hasn't got the credentials as a pro to be interesting). And, with the best will in the world, Scott Welch? Really?!

The dream quartet would have been Bruno, Holyfield, Lewis, Tyson. Would be hard to get them all together but would make great viewing. Evander is in the UK at the minute so Sky have definitely missed a trick not getting him involved!

If you want to go all UK, fair enough, but surely going with Bruno, Lewis, Fury, Haye would be best? Would be a great appetiser for the fight!

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 13:12
by JimStone
Bruno and Lewis are both extremely boring. Fury is okay in small doses. Joshua I don't know much about. Welch is a top bloke and a decent conversationalist - I expect him to hold the show together. I do understand why you question his involvement though.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 14:45
by WelshJack
Aden wrote:Bruno and Lewis are both extremely boring. Fury is okay in small doses. Joshua I don't know much about. Welch is a top bloke and a decent conversationalist - I expect him to hold the show together. I do understand why you question his involvement though.
I look forward to seeing Lewis or Bruno question Tyson Fury, these are always interesting no matter who is involved.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 15:36
by expe
What stories does Joshua have to tell? He's had no pro career and spent the majority of his amateur career at the performance centre in Sheffield, apart from tales of a few pranks, it's worthless having him on there, another example of Sky's hype machine.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 17:59
by CiganoBoxer
Why have Joshua on there ? :-?

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 18:16
by WelshJack
mrpedigree wrote:Why have Joshua on there ? :-?
It's always like this supposed to be a mix of past, present and future and Joshua will get great advice, hopefully Tyson mentions Hughie to Joshua that is a fight somewhere down the line i'm sure will happen.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 16 Sep 2013, 21:19
by coghaugen11
Scott Welsh?? :doh:

Herbie Hide hiding?

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 08:41
by sharpei_louis
Joshua on there for promotion of his career, obviously. You see him mixing it with Lewis n Bruno on a talk show and might start watching him fight.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 09:37
by Benelio
I would genuinely prefer to have Audley on there instead of Joshua.

Joshua's 'opinions' on various boxing matters on Ringside lately seemed just like vacuous predictable PR drivel. At least Audley's preaching comes straight from himself.

Nothing against the guy, but I'll listen more to what he has to say 10 fights down the line.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 10:22
by Parson Cross
It was filmed in June so there might be some editorial cuts but it will be a decent watch.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 10:37
by MightyWarrior
A 2 hour advertisment for the Haye/Fury PPV, disguised as a boxing show. Boxing fans on Sky really get screwed, imagine Sky suddenly charging their football customers PPV for the big matches.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 10:41
by Parson Cross
It's not just about Haye Fury mate but I get your drift.
Some bits about when they were growing up etc are ok
Give it a chance.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 15:51
by chad
MightyWarrior wrote:A 2 hour advertisment for the Haye/Fury PPV, disguised as a boxing show. Boxing fans on Sky really get screwed, imagine Sky suddenly charging their football customers PPV for the big matches.
They tried it for 6 years, it fell flat on it's face after football fans simply refused to buy the games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PremPlus

SKY would drop PPV boxing too, if fans refused to buy the events.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 18:27
by Jack B
Welch offered very, very little. Thought Fury came across pretty well. Joshua was more interesting than I thought, especially when talking about his upbringing/past. Lewis and Bruno as I expected. Overall not bad, but still not quite hitting the spot for me.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 17 Sep 2013, 18:39
by CiganoBoxer
Thought it was good , Fury spoke well as did Joshua, and it was good to see ole Bruno looking and speaking well since watching that awful documentary his daughter did :)

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 18 Sep 2013, 07:50
by The 1bangkid
can someone please post this if they find it.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 18 Sep 2013, 07:53
by jessi
The 1bangkid wrote:can someone please post this if they find it.
:TU:

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 18 Sep 2013, 07:58
by jessi
I thought it was pretty good, didn't like the way Lewis asked Bruno why he took him to court, Bruno is clearly a bit unstable !
Welsh's advice to Joshua was quite amusing, "go in there and take them out ASAP" that's why he never got anywhere !
I'm glad Joshua and Lewis told fury in the nicest possible way that haye is going to destroy him.
Fury actually said the most interesting things, his confident but cheesy with it, makes me laugh though :TU:

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 18 Sep 2013, 08:00
by CiganoBoxer
jessi wrote:I thought it was pretty good, didn't like the way Lewis asked Bruno why he took him to court, Bruno is clearly a bit unstable !
Welsh's advice to Joshua was quite amusing, "go in there and take them out ASAP" that's why he never got anywhere !
I'm glad Joshua and Lewis told fury in the nicest possible way that haye is going to destroy him.
Fury actually said the most interesting things, his confident but cheesy with it, makes me laugh though :TU:
Actually mate i thought Lewis contradicted himself ,one minute he said the big man will always win and the next he picked Haye :lol:

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 18 Sep 2013, 11:41
by stujones
chad wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:A 2 hour advertisment for the Haye/Fury PPV, disguised as a boxing show. Boxing fans on Sky really get screwed, imagine Sky suddenly charging their football customers PPV for the big matches.
They tried it for 6 years, it fell flat on it's face after football fans simply refused to buy the games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PremPlus

SKY would drop PPV boxing too, if fans refused to buy the events.
Don't think PPV's will work in something that is seasonal... they tried it with F1 also.

Didn't think Sky had it for 6 seasons.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 18 Sep 2013, 11:46
by stujones
Got it taped, might give it a play later.... didn't appeal to me. Tyson Fury's knowledge of the sport seems to be a bit of a joke judging by his comments on other fighters in press conferences.... Scott Welch? Anthony Joshua?

If they wanted an all British one - they should have had Lewis, Bruno, Akinwande, Williams, Haye, and Michael Bentt.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 18 Sep 2013, 12:19
by expe
stujones wrote:Got it taped, might give it a play later.... didn't appeal to me. Tyson Fury's knowledge of the sport seems to be a bit of a joke judging by his comments on other fighters in press conferences.... Scott Welch? Anthony Joshua?

If they wanted an all British one - they should have had Lewis, Bruno, Akinwande, Williams, Haye, and Michael Bentt.
I'd be surprised if Williams could remember his own name, let alone anything of his career the way he's going.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 18 Sep 2013, 13:08
by loaded_gloves
Did Bruno press Lewis on why he dismissed him as an Uncle Tom for his marrying a white woman?

Lewis's insinuations of race betrayal in 1993 took us right back to the days of Jack Johnson. Amazed how it is glossed over when he is discussed.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 18 Sep 2013, 13:37
by JimStone
loaded_gloves wrote:Did Bruno press Lewis on why he dismissed him as an Uncle Tom for his marrying a white woman?
Is that how he meant it? I always reasoned it was because Bruno, in the eyes of some, acted obsequiously, almost like a court jester. I'm not suggesting for a moment that Lennox was right to call Frank an Uncle Tom on those grounds but I can definitely see why he may have chosen that term in the build up to the fight.

Re: The Gloves Are Off - The Heavyweights

Posted: 18 Sep 2013, 13:39
by handsofstone
loaded_gloves wrote:Did Bruno press Lewis on why he dismissed him as an Uncle Tom for his marrying a white woman?

Lewis's insinuations of race betrayal in 1993 took us right back to the days of Jack Johnson. Amazed how it is glossed over when he is discussed.
Didnt know a bout that one,i didnt think that was Lennox style :o


Im starting to like Fury though,he believes in himself the way a fighter should and doesnt take himself too seriously and has plenty charisma which British fighters seem to lack