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Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 10:41
by evrenb
The history of boxing has been full of Dirty, foul filled matches. Some have resulted in disqualification while some got away with their unruly antics.
How about these three as a start :-

Pep vs Saddler 4
Bowe vs Golota 2
Lou Nova vs Two Ton Galento !

evrenb

p.s - I will not accept Ali vs Terrell (Il Duce!)

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 10:53
by Vladimir5555
Holy vs Tyson 2
Lewis vs Akinwande

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 11:00
by evrenb
Vladimir5555 wrote:Holy vs Tyson 2
Lewis vs Akinwande
Akinwande vs Lewis

That is an interesting choice...I will have to review that again...

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 11:40
by pbchron
Nat Fleischer, RING magazine, Feb. 1954 :
It isn't often that TV fans get a chance to see what an old time dock fight looks like, but they got it in New York recently when JOEY GIARDELLO and TUZO PORTUGUEZ fought ten vicious, dirty rounds at Eastern Parkway Arena. Butting, use of elbows, hitting on the breaks, use of knees - in fact everything that is termed a foul under the rules of boxing was on display.......Referee Ruby Goldstein had his hands full. He took away two rounds, one from each fighter for rough playing....Goldstein would have done well had he tossed both fighters out of the ring, but he did an excellent job by curbing the men after halting the bout and warning them. The fight was the roughest, most turbulent affair seen in New York since the Zivic - Bummy Davis fracas. It was a disgraceful exhibition, one that gave televiewers an opportunity to see the type of fighting that was outlawed.

The Giardello vs Gene Fullmer fight televised in 1960 was another brutal, dirty brawl.

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 12:04
by evrenb
pbchron wrote:Nat Fleischer, RING magazine, Feb. 1954 :
It isn't often that TV fans get a chance to see what an old time dock fight looks like, but they got it in New York recently when JOEY GIARDELLO and TUZO PORTUGUEZ fought ten vicious, dirty rounds at Eastern Parkway Arena. Butting, use of elbows, hitting on the breaks, use of knees - in fact everything that is termed a foul under the rules of boxing was on display.......Referee Ruby Goldstein had his hands full. He took away two rounds, one from each fighter for rough playing....Goldstein would have done well had he tossed both fighters out of the ring, but he did an excellent job by curbing the men after halting the bout and warning them. The fight was the roughest, most turbulent affair seen in New York since the Zivic - Bummy Davis fracas. It was a disgraceful exhibition, one that gave televiewers an opportunity to see the type of fighting that was outlawed.

The Giardello vs Gene Fullmer fight televised in 1960 was another brutal, dirty brawl.
Wow that's great - never knew of that....I wonder if I can find a copy of it...

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 12:07
by SaadOffTheDeck
Saddler/Elorde, I believe it was the second one, was brutal.

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 12:10
by evrenb
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Saddler/Elorde, I believe it was the second one, was brutal.
It's funny that Saddler was in a few dirty fights....I will check that one out later...

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 12:56
by iamasadlittleboy
Much more recently it's worth looking at Luis Alberto Lazarte's fights with Ulises Solis, unfortunately the fouls were pretty much all 1-way traffic

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 13:20
by Woller
Try and have a look at Mike Schutte - Gerrie Coetzee. I have only seen two rounds, but there are more fouls in those two rounds than in a 45 rounder!!

Søren

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 15:06
by gilgamesh
Bowe vs Golota 2 was absolutely brutal

Kirk Johnson vs John Ruiz was a pretty dirty fight...it was also boring as hell, but still lots of fouls.

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 16:06
by evrenb
Woller wrote:Try and have a look at Mike Schutte - Gerrie Coetzee. I have only seen two rounds, but there are more fouls in those two rounds than in a 45 rounder!!

Søren
Nice to hear from you soren...i will be sure to check this out..

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 16:10
by evrenb
One of the best headbutts i saw attempted was chuvalo on mathis...the one morrison landed on lakusta was brutal too....

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 25 Sep 2013, 22:28
by giacomino
Pedroza

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 27 Sep 2013, 04:45
by misterpunch
fritzie and bummy davis i'd have paid good money to see

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 27 Sep 2013, 14:18
by gilgamesh
misterpunch wrote:fritzie and bummy davis i'd have paid good money to see
Yeah I'm sure those fights were ridiculously foul filled. They're both regarded as two of the dirtiest fighters in the history of the game.

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 23:56
by pbchron
bump

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 03:31
by Counter-puncher
Fenech - Villasana

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 03:53
by doug.ie
"Mathis actually grabbed referee Al Berl by the shoulders and threw him aside in his desire to get at Chuvalo. Chuvalo had be warned twice about hitting low, after he was warned one more time the referee Al Berl began to move in like he was going to warn him, Buster Mathis took two steps back and tee'd off from around his knees looking to hit as low as he could, and he caught Chuvalo, who never even flinched, it was then that they began to get really mad with each other. Chuvalo at one time used his head like a paint brush across the face of Mathis..."

and it all happened in the 1st round...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRtG6fSpy9w

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 05:08
by doug.ie
this turned out to be a dirty looking affair...albeit mainly after the bell....maybe this doesnt suit the thread though..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCr519cSQvw

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 09:43
by beaujack
doug.ie wrote:this turned out to be a dirty looking affair...albeit mainly after the bell....maybe this doesnt suit the thread though..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCr519cSQvw
The "dirtiest" fight I ever saw was in 1944 when a young Wildman still untamed, Rocky Graziano
fought a fighter named Frankie Terry in Dexter Park NY. In the fight they both went wild hitting below the belt, kicking each other in the groin, taking out their mouthpieces and biting each other, knocking
down the referee trying to restore order, and the crowd went bananas at this street brawl. Order was
somewhat restored with the help of the police...And later on I read that Rocky Graziano and Frankie
Terry were COUSINS to each other !!! This event had to be seen to be believed...

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 09:50
by evrenb
Beaujack. May I ask how old you are?

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 15:24
by HomicideHenry
Cliff Couser picked up and suplexed Malcom Tann in the middle of the ring once.

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 15:27
by Bodyshot3
Weirdly.....Bugner v Bruno was a properly dirty fight.

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 15:38
by beaujack
evrenb wrote:Beaujack. May I ask how old you are?
I hate to "jinx" myself ,but I am in my eighties who when as a young boy, my family lived next door
to a trainer of the great lightheavyweight John Henry Lewis, where every night I would go next door and box with JHLewis's stablemates and eat a salad with olive oil...Must have helped me cause I'm
still kickin !

Re: Dirtiest Fight You Ever Saw

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 15:39
by evrenb
Bodyshot3 wrote:Weirdly.....Bugner v Bruno was a properly dirty fight.
Almost all Bruno fights were like that...and all instigated by Frank!!