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big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 12:09
by stevedoc
i've been to shows with 100 people watching and shows with 50,000 and obviously you get the bigger fight on big shows but unless you're ringside it's hard to see the action compared to say the york hall , all the great fights i've seen live have been at small halls or at the albert hall where you can still see the action and it has great accoustics .

so what do you like :bag: :bag:

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 12:39
by WelshJack
Never really been to a small show, but I prefer big arena shows as the atmosphere is better and normally better fighters are on them.

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 12:41
by spudder56
Small hall for me all the time

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 12:51
by m1kee50
Small hall. Watch a big show on the telly every day of the week. Last big show I bothered with was Mitchell-Katsidis at Upton Park, it was a bit silly really.

at somewhere like Brentwood you have 4 to 6 rows of ringside seating on the floor, then the unreserved is on bleachers. (I know the big shows have no unreserved but you know what I mean, the cheap seats)

at upton park you had ringside, then lots of cheaper floor seating, then the stands but only the bottom tiers, AFAIR. the ring was roughly i would guess halfway between the edge of the 18-yard and the halfway. now i know its perfectly possible to watch a football match from the top of the stand, so why didnt they have the ring by the goalmouth, the same amount of ringside, and have the whole Bobby Moore stand (South Stand) open top to bottom for the cheap seats, and the corners of the East and West stands, minimising the distance from the ring for all concerned, and meaning that 99% of the fans have an unobstructed view?

(I know why, before anyone says - money.)

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 13:15
by stevedoc
@matt___s wrote:Small hall. Watch a big show on the telly every day of the week. Last big show I bothered with was Mitchell-Katsidis at Upton Park, it was a bit silly really.

at somewhere like Brentwood you have 4 to 6 rows of ringside seating on the floor, then the unreserved is on bleachers. (I know the big shows have no unreserved but you know what I mean, the cheap seats)

at upton park you had ringside, then lots of cheaper floor seating, then the stands but only the bottom tiers, AFAIR. the ring was roughly i would guess halfway between the edge of the 18-yard and the halfway. now i know its perfectly possible to watch a football match from the top of the stand, so why didnt they have the ring by the goalmouth, the same amount of ringside, and have the whole Bobby Moore stand (South Stand) open top to bottom for the cheap seats, and the corners of the East and West stands, minimising the distance from the ring for all concerned, and meaning that 99% of the fans have an unobstructed view?

(I know why, before anyone says - money.)
agreed ...i went to the benn vs eubanks rematch at old trafford i was about 20 rows from the ring just behind ringside and i still couldn't really see the action . in small hall show you can hear the punches land and feel it more

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 14:15
by saad muhammad
Over the years I've been to Wembley,Albert hall,mandalay bay(mosley/winky 1)
and the O2 for Froch/Kessler 2, but York Hall everytime, the atmosphere and being close to the
ring hearing the punches land the and seeing the sweat fly....fantastic.
Been going there for over 30 years,some great fighters,great fights and great nights and memories
i'll never forget.

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 14:44
by damianhucker1
Big Arena events for me.
Small hall promoters do a tough job and operate on a shoe string so while i admire their job , as i a fan the shows arent good , lack of descent fights as they are usually just prospect vs journeyman in which you already know the winner before it even starts, usually no atmosphere etc etc .

In all honesty most unlicensed shows give more bang for your buck , and thats nothing to do with my own involvement , im talking purely on the basis of a fan and where i would prefer to part with my money.

I do attend the small hall shows, more of a case of without them the bigger shows wouldnt be able to happen , but more often than not all i hear is people moaning about paying £30 for 4 low level fights.

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 15:17
by saad muhammad
I wouldn't pay 30quid for 4 fights to be honest, but I was the Goodwin promotion @ York hall
3 weeks ago, 13 fights over 5 hours of boxing no interval for 35notes, whats not to like.

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 15:36
by Chris W 1982
Small Hall every day of the week.

Liverpool Olympia is something else

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 15:37
by spudder56
damianhucker1 wrote:Big Arena events for me.
Small hall promoters do a tough job and operate on a shoe string so while i admire their job , as i a fan the shows arent good , lack of descent fights as they are usually just prospect vs journeyman in which you already know the winner before it even starts, usually no atmosphere etc etc .

In all honesty most unlicensed shows give more bang for your buck , and thats nothing to do with my own involvement , im talking purely on the basis of a fan and where i would prefer to part with my money.

I do attend the small hall shows, more of a case of without them the bigger shows wouldnt be able to happen , but more often than not all i hear is people moaning about paying £30 for 4 low level fights.
If you want value for money shows in the midlands that are well matched check out these promotors Carl greaves , Clifton Mitchell Tom Owens/Jon Pegg

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 06 Oct 2013, 17:25
by spudder56
Apparently there was an excellent 10 fight small hall show at the tower ballroom birmingham today with top of the bill an area title fight which I am sure everybody present enjoyed

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 05:21
by ste1983
spudder56 wrote:
damianhucker1 wrote:Big Arena events for me.
Small hall promoters do a tough job and operate on a shoe string so while i admire their job , as i a fan the shows arent good , lack of descent fights as they are usually just prospect vs journeyman in which you already know the winner before it even starts, usually no atmosphere etc etc .

In all honesty most unlicensed shows give more bang for your buck , and thats nothing to do with my own involvement , im talking purely on the basis of a fan and where i would prefer to part with my money.

I do attend the small hall shows, more of a case of without them the bigger shows wouldnt be able to happen , but more often than not all i hear is people moaning about paying £30 for 4 low level fights.
If you want value for money shows in the midlands that are well matched check out these promotors Carl greaves , Clifton Mitchell Tom Owens/Jon Pegg
Was at the Tom Owens/Jon Pegg show yesterday great show and a great atmosphear (anyone who thinks you get a bett atmosphear at an arena is wrong in my view with the odd exception and thats only usually for the one fight).

Personally I like to mix it up prefer small hall shows but obviously there are certain fights and fighters i wanna see that I can't at a small hall so have to got to the arena shows. But overall small hall far better value for money in my view. Tends o be poroper boxing people there too arena shows attract dicks who watch one/two fights a year.

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 05:24
by ste1983
spudder56 wrote:Apparently there was an excellent 10 fight small hall show at the tower ballroom birmingham today with top of the bill an area title fight which I am sure everybody present enjoyed
was a top show got to see some promising prospects on the undercard and two well contested title fights.

the place was rammed as well third time I've been to the tower ballroom and definitely the most packed. Great atmosphear, really enjoyed it made me realise I don't do enough small hall shows as i should!

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 05:25
by banjo
Small hall, last time I went to an arena it was full of mongoloids singing about walking through a Hatton wonderland, what ever one of those is.

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 06:45
by spudder56
banjo wrote:Small hall, last time I went to an arena it was full of mongoloids singing about walking through a Hatton wonderland, what ever one of those is.



x2 spot on mate you carnt beat well matched small hall shows

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 06:52
by spudder56
ste1983 wrote:
spudder56 wrote:Apparently there was an excellent 10 fight small hall show at the tower ballroom birmingham today with top of the bill an area title fight which I am sure everybody present enjoyed
was a top show got to see some promising prospects on the undercard and two well contested title fights.

the place was rammed as well third time I've been to the tower ballroom and definitely the most packed. Great atmosphear, really enjoyed it made me realise I don't do enough small hall shows as i should!

Pleased you enjoyed it mate Tom/Jon deserve supporting in their drive to continue giving excellent value for money in Birmingham

There is another great show next Sunday at the Hermitage L/C Whitwick near Coalville with lots of quality fights on promoted by Clifton Mitchell which I am sure will be packed out

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 07:18
by The Law
ste1983 wrote:
spudder56 wrote:Apparently there was an excellent 10 fight small hall show at the tower ballroom birmingham today with top of the bill an area title fight which I am sure everybody present enjoyed
was a top show got to see some promising prospects on the undercard and two well contested title fights.

the place was rammed as well third time I've been to the tower ballroom and definitely the most packed. Great atmosphear, really enjoyed it made me realise I don't do enough small hall shows as i should!
Agreed, it was an absolutely brilliant show and the two main events lived up to expectations. It was also the most packed I've ever seen the Tower Ballroom and I've covered many shows down there.

I have attended large arena shows all over the world and British small hall shows have the best atmosphere in my opinion.

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 07:31
by maley1984
ste1983 wrote:
spudder56 wrote:Apparently there was an excellent 10 fight small hall show at the tower ballroom birmingham today with top of the bill an area title fight which I am sure everybody present enjoyed
was a top show got to see some promising prospects on the undercard and two well contested title fights.

the place was rammed as well third time I've been to the tower ballroom and definitely the most packed. Great atmosphear, really enjoyed it made me realise I don't do enough small hall shows as i should!
Well mate their is a cracker coming up 16th nov walsall town hall. British title eliminator and a british masters title fight tops the bill double trouble2. 9 fights on chris male v troy james and ste pearce v rob hunt 2 real 50-50 fights. Get yourself their

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 07:33
by REEVE
small hall over massive arena anyday :box:

borough hall hartlepool is my favourite place to watch live shows.

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 07:47
by Kilburn
Only time I've ever been to the big shows is when I've had tickets bought for me, and apart from an undercard fight involving Ross Winter and Michael Jennings I can't say I've enjoyed them at all. Too far from the action usually and surrounded by complete cretins who hardly seem to be watching.

Small hall all the way.

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 08:01
by Emmseegee
Im personally a fan of the smaller shows, been to big Hatton shows at the MEN, City of Manchester Stadium (as it was at the time) and also in the MGM. Also been to the majority of Burns fights through his career. The Braehead and the SECC bigger shows just dont compare to the smaller card atmospheres. Burns v Gomez in Bellahouston was superb and the Burns v Martinez in the Kelvin Hall is the best atmosphere ive ever experienced.

Just remembered there the now that i went to Calzaghe Manfredo aswell in the Millennium stadium and that was gash. Lol.

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 08:31
by spudder56
REEVE wrote:small hall over massive arena anyday :box:

borough hall hartlepool is my favourite place to watch live shows.

another couple of great venues are the kings hall stoke and dudley town hall both have great atmospheres

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 08:43
by ste1983
maley1984 wrote:
ste1983 wrote:
spudder56 wrote:Apparently there was an excellent 10 fight small hall show at the tower ballroom birmingham today with top of the bill an area title fight which I am sure everybody present enjoyed
was a top show got to see some promising prospects on the undercard and two well contested title fights.

the place was rammed as well third time I've been to the tower ballroom and definitely the most packed. Great atmosphear, really enjoyed it made me realise I don't do enough small hall shows as i should!
Well mate their is a cracker coming up 16th nov walsall town hall. British title eliminator and a british masters title fight tops the bill double trouble2. 9 fights on chris male v troy james and ste pearce v rob hunt 2 real 50-50 fights. Get yourself their
Its already in the diary mate :TU:

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 08:50
by Ketchel
Small Hall or just a tad bigger, something like the Kings Hall in Belfast holds between 4-6000. Atmosphere in that place during a fight is electric! :bag:

Re: big arena shows or small hall shows what do you prefer

Posted: 07 Oct 2013, 09:29
by n1ebf
WelshJack wrote:Never really been to a small show, but I prefer big arena shows as the atmosphere is better
how do you know then?

I've probably only been to around half a dozen Big Eventers. You never fail to get some utter nob-heads in.
Mind you I attended a show at the Point in Dublin, Brian Peters promo, which passed off very well.

Small hall and Am, been to around 60. Definitely prefer the smaller venue. Hartlepool Borough Hall is probably the best I've been to, and I say that having attended the York Hall once - but, I would like to go there again.