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I got thinking about this after watching Joshua's debut but do you ever end wanting to see a fighter get put on his ass because of the excessive cheer leading of the commentators and pundits and so on? I didnt feel this way about Joshua as he comes across as a very down to earth likeable fella but the hype around olympic gold medallists and so on actually puts me off them rather than make me want to see them do well! Anyway, I was wondering if anyone feels the same way?

In a way, yes. I love it when an unknown comes through

i felt like that with auderly harrison he beleived his own hype and it put me off him . i don't mind fighters like floyd being hyped as he has done everything that has been asked of him .

the same thing has happened with deontay wilder some like him some want him to get ko'd

there's a couple of fighters with warren that i haven't taken to because the hype is to much like frank buglioni .

I base it on personalities and fight style more than anything else. I want all of the 2012 crop to do well.

its hard to dislike joshua because as you said he is down to earth.... i never really want a british fighter to fail... ( well apart from audley) however i am not keen on the hype because i think its a little unfair on the fighters themselves ... take Campbell who after his second fight i heard one of the commentators saying hes the new golden boy can see him fighting for world titles at 3 different weights... I know we have to build up confidence in fighters but lets not run away with it... they can start believing the hype and then land on their ass....

ajwesty13 wrote:its hard to dislike joshua because as you said he is down to earth.... i never really want a british fighter to fail... ( well apart from audley) however i am not keen on the hype because i think its a little unfair on the fighters themselves ... take Campbell who after his second fight i heard one of the commentators saying hes the new golden boy can see him fighting for world titles at 3 different weights... I know we have to build up confidence in fighters but lets not run away with it... they can start believing the hype and then land on their ass....

Yeah you're right. Shouldnt really blame the fighters to be honest. I should of said it makes me want to strangle Jim Watt *who I like most of the time even if he can be dour* and Nick Halling. Halling was the worst actually when the Joshua fight was going on. It was getting on my tits. Calling a fighter "the future peoples champion" is a bit cheesy and grating aswell. The public will make their own minds up on that. Joshua probably does have a good chance of that as he's very likeable. Dont ram it down people's throats though.

All the hype must also put a lot of pressure to perform on the fighter. Can you imagine going from a nobody to having a load of press and TV razzmatazz raving about how much you are going to achieve and your going to be the next big thing in boxing. Personally I would rather they left these guys to have a few fights and gradually start promoting them as they get better, too much too quick.

columbo wrote:

ajwesty13 wrote:its hard to dislike joshua because as you said he is down to earth.... i never really want a british fighter to fail... ( well apart from audley) however i am not keen on the hype because i think its a little unfair on the fighters themselves ... take Campbell who after his second fight i heard one of the commentators saying hes the new golden boy can see him fighting for world titles at 3 different weights... I know we have to build up confidence in fighters but lets not run away with it... they can start believing the hype and then land on their ass....

Yeah you're right. Shouldnt really blame the fighters to be honest. I should of said it makes me want to strangle Jim Watt *who I like most of the time even if he can be dour* and Nick Halling. Halling was the worst actually when the Joshua fight was going on. It was getting on my tits. Calling a fighter "the future peoples champion" is a bit cheesy and grating aswell. The public will make their own minds up on that. Joshua probably does have a good chance of that as he's very likeable. Dont ram it down people's throats though.

look at Amir he was hyped up and so he should've for his offence, however did the hype make him think hes invincible and not concentrate on his weakness his chin and his inside work.... and calling himself 'king' maybe gave you an insight that he believed the hype... and i am pro khan to but i dont think the hype helped ....

Yes it does, Sky Sports are by far the worst for it.

Kell Brook being the best example of that. I want him to lose because I can't be bothered hearing about him any more.

i love it when hypes fail.
i really enjoyed mitchell and price falling short

i love when SKYs hype train fail.

all we need now is wilder,

Yes, always love the underdog.

Always back the underdog, but if the Brit is a hype job surely you want them to do well it's good for boxing if Joshua does well as he is a nice guy, just hope he doesn't turn into an Amir Khan/David Haye.

dammage7 wrote:i love it when hypes fail.
i really enjoyed mitchell and price falling short

i love when SKYs hype train fail.

all we need now is wilder,

Loving hypes to fail isn't exactly the same as supporting the underdog. Just makes you seem bitter. Why would you enjoy Mitchell and Price failing? Both seem like nice enough guys especially Price. British boxing is buzzing and unless they're personality absolutely stinks, I think it's healthy for us to get behind and support out own, hype or no hype.

danamba7 wrote:I base it on personalities and fight style more than anything else. I want all of the 2012 crop to do well.

Bang on really. I don't know if the 2012 lot had media training etc as it was their 'home' Olympics, but all of them so far have conducted themselves really well since the Olympics. Ogogo seems to have picked up a bit of media work and is quite natural in front of the cameras.

I'm still hoping Pricey will embarrass Fury at some point down the line.

Not necessarily no, it's more the personality which makes me want to see somebody lose, although hype can play a part in it.

Good topic, it doesnt put me off the fighter but it does make me critique them in a different way, like Joshua's fight i looked for the negatives rather than the positives because ultimately if they are being touted as the next big thing they need to be showing the qualities needed or at least the potential. David Price was another fighter who was hyped and people concentrated on his weakness (his chin).

Audley harrison and Amir Khan actually did display those qualities and Amir khans career despite the defeats has been pretty stellar where as audley showed the promise and then hit a plateau.

I do think the public in general are very fickle and alot of the time want to see success stories fall flat on their arses. Although a bit of humility from the boxers can go a long way when trying to endear themselves to the public.