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Who did you score it vote for?

A sort of Boxrec version of a newspaper decision.

I've only watched the entire fight once, and that was about a week after it took place. I had Holmes a clear winner.

from memory not an easy fight to score. Witherspoon took Holmes' jab away for large parts of the fight, and the cross-armed defence was absorbing quite a lot of Holmes' punches. 'Spoon did some excellent work to the body, from memory Holmes started to close it up after Spoon had opened an early lead

i recall thinking it was a 7-5 either way/ draw type fight.

I had Tim by a point.

Close fight; Witherspoon had bigger moments but Larry won more rounds.

I had Holmes by a point, Larry pulled it out late. Could have gone either way really.

i dont know why there is so much debate on this holmes easily

energie wrote:i dont know why there is so much debate on this holmes easily

easily?

Easily is what he said Giancarlo.

I disagree. It was very close.

I had it for Larry the last time I watched it.

A lot more definitive than I expected. Dempsey's analysis seems to ring true...but I did score it for Witherspoon the last time I saw it... but that was by 1 point.

BoxBuzz wrote:Easily is what he said Giancarlo.

I disagree. It was very close.

A very close fight.

So, either he didn't see it or he knows nothing about boxing. Or both.

He didn't see the fight, Giancarlo, or he's one of Flossie's nephews.

It was a Closed Circuit fight and I saw it in an arena that was largely pro-Holmes.

90% of the crowd that night booed the decision. No one I know who watched it thought Holmes got anything but a draw at most.

Holmes was seldom popular with the fans....so the boos seemed bias.

He may have earned the win, but just barely and not in a way that many boxing fans can appreciate....in fact...he was very lucky to have Judges that perhaps were of the old school that the champion has a built in advantage...that he is defending a belt which is his "own property". lol.

This could be looked at a bit like the Ali-Young fight...although in my opinion Witherspoon gave a better account of himself than Young did. And I base this somewhat on the antics of Young and not his pure performance.

BoxBuzz wrote:Holmes was seldom popular with the fans....so the boos seemed bias.

He may have earned the win, but just barely and not in a way that many boxing fans can appreciate....in fact...he was very lucky to have Judges that perhaps were of the old school that the champion has a built in advantage...that he is defending a belt which is his "own property". lol.

This could be looked at a bit like the Ali-Young fight...although in my opinion Witherspoon gave a better account of himself than Young did. And I base this somewhat on the antics of Young and not his pure performance.

Dart340 said the crowd was largely pro-Holmes.

BoxBuzz wrote: He may have earned the win, but just barely and not in a way that many boxing fans can appreciate....in fact...he was very lucky to have Judges that perhaps were of the old school that the champion has a built in advantage...that he is defending a belt which is his "own property". lol.

This could be looked at a bit like the Ali-Young fight...although in my opinion Witherspoon gave a better account of himself than Young did. And I base this somewhat on the antics of Young and not his pure performance.

Anyone that couldn't appreciate Holmes gritting his teeth and gutting out that fight when Witherspoon took away his jab isn't anybody I'd refer to as a fan.

With all due respect, that's a terrible analogy. Young got robbed in an abysmal fight, Spoon/Holmes was razor close and fantastic. Ninth round was as good as it gets.

Saad I said that sort of clumsily. The context I used was very tangent, and your right...one was a good scrap....the other....not so much. I sort of smothered my odd point.

I most regret the way I used the word "fan". "Crowd" might have been better.

Think I'll go back and watch that fight....havent for years.

BoxBuzz wrote:Saad I said that sort of clumsily. The context I used was very tangent, and your right...one was a good scrap....the other....not so much. I sort of smothered my odd point.

I most regret the way I used the word "fan". "Crowd" might have been better.

Think I'll go back and watch that fight....havent for years.

No worries, assuming you mean Holmes/Spoon I watched it a couple weeks ago. I have Ali/Young on DVD too, but I doubt I'll ever watch it again. I have a bunch of those career sets with many fights like that with them. Sometimes I wonder if I wasted money not just piecing them out. Then again, I spent more money on Jaeger in a month than I did on those DVD's at the time so I'm probably just whining because I don't make money like I used too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3ugYP9Q6bA

This is an interesting and amazing round. However I watched it 3 times.....and second and third time around I'm distracted by a female in the first or second row who is standing and rocking side to side does she seem to be happy with Tim's progress? She's a bit robotic and she looks somewhat pleased while at the same time full tilt petrified if not somewhat zombified.