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Il Duce wrote: On November 5, 1965 - Piero 'shocked' the European Boxing World, when he 'upset'
the Great - Santo Amonti by a TKO 9.

The great?

What was great about him?

I don't think he could hang with Clay/Ali. (DUH)

Il Duce wrote:

It was all about style and movement.

This is what it was all about?



I feel so gullible,
I was mislead.....I was told it was the "hokey pokey".

....and I believed them.

I'm being respectful....I'm laughing with you...not at you.

I just found your artful language easily lampoonable.

Perhaps I owe you an apology.

I don't even think 'Pejo' would be favored against Rahman.

Il Duce wrote:

ThatOne wrote:I don't even think 'Pejo' would be favored against Rahman.

Piero Tomasoni had done better against Karl Mildenberger for 10 Rounds, than Cassius
performed against the German.

'A 'lucky punch' to the right eye, was the difference in the bout.

Had it not been for that, we'd all be speaking Italian now.

'Ciao Baby'

That clown lost on points. I don't think he could go four rounds with Rahman now.

Il Duce wrote:'Young Cassius' was going to go to Italy to 'feast' on some Italian's

But 'first' Piero Tomasoni had to prove himself against a 'fringe' American Heavyweight.

Enter 'King Jim Fletcher {Floyd' Patterson's sparring partner}, and the guy who had
Cassius Clay by the 'neck' in the elevator.

Fight Promoter - Umberto Branchini set up the bout.

Clay/Ali said at the time he didn't have sex with white women because the NOI prohibited it. I got Jim Brown's autobiography for my birthday back in the late 80s or early 90s. I don't remember the exact year. Any way, Jim Brown wrote when they were in Italy together they were both banging Italian girls and when Brown asked him about the NOI's prohibition on having sex with white women Ali said Italians weren't white!

Il Duce wrote:Cassius Clay,
"We need more white men around, like Gene Tunney and Jack Dempsey. And with me
fighting them, we'd draw a $30,000,000 Gate. Nobody wants to see me fighting black men."

I'm pretty sure he didn't say the bit I have highlighted in black.

"If we had more white men like Gene Tunney and Jack Dempsey around, and me fighting them, we'd draw a $30-million gate...It seems the darker men are dominating boxing...this must seem a little sad to white men...I'm not talking hate...What we need is more white hopes. That's why I'm pulling for the washerwoman (Chuvalo) to knock out the rabbit (Patterson)...The masses — the white masses that buy most of the tickets at fights — would like it better if there was some white top contender to challenge someone like me."

http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/3302475/

I can't find a source for any of the other stuff you've quoted? Please may you point me in the right direction.

ThatOne wrote:Ali said Italians weren't white!

He's right on that, isn't he?

Il Duce wrote:Signore', Dominic Adinolfi

Cassius Clay is 'borderline retarded'.

He is no 'Prophet'.........He is a 'Clown' dressed up in pretty boxing shorts.

Did the Moor invasion sting that much, brutha?

Il Duce wrote:In 1966,

Cassius Clay visited the 'Great' Jim Brown on the set of the 'The Dirty Dozen' which was being filmed
at MGM Studios in Borehamwood in England.

On location areas, were at Ashridge in Hertfordshire.

Jim Brown, who was Jefferson, R.T. - was a featured actor in this soon-to-be Great Film.

Cassius, ever the 'celebrity', asked Jim Brown is he could get him a role in the movie.

Jim Brown, "But Cassius, this a War Movie."

Was that when he joined the other elite black athletes of his era to offer their counsel to the GOAT regarding his opposition to the Viet Nam Debacle?




The greatest boxer, the greatest football player, and two of the greatest basketball players of all time. What a testament to black manhood.

Il Duce wrote: I Believe,

Cassius went to the 'The Dirty Dozen' film location to 'beg' Jim Brown to help support him
in getting out of Induction into the United States Selective Service.

Cassius told Jim, if he helped him, he would set stage a Boxing Bout between the both
of them, where they could make 'Millions' together.

Soon after this 'Press Conference', where Cassius had 'used' these fine gentleman, he didn't
even had the common courtesy to take them out for Dinner or buy them a 'lousy' Cup of Coffee.

Do Your Follow Up..........

I believe you believe it to be true even though the sentient among us don't.

Il Duce wrote:Piero Tomasoni vs. Karl Mildenberger

Here 'Pejo' is lambasting the German with his quick attack.

'Pejo' was called the 'Italian Doug Jones', and we know what he did to Cassius.

Mildenburger has bird legs. lol

Did you know that young Cassius for many years weighed less than 100 pounds?

And they had the nerve to call him a Heavyweight.........pleeeease.

whimsical? Is it whimsical to point out the facts? I did not stray from the reality of the situation.

Where did I part paths with the truth in my statement?

I didn't....you know it, I know it, and Bob Dole knows it.

What's the point of the constant anti-Cassius Clay posts?

We get it, you don't like him.

Surely you've got something positive to add on the fighters you do like rather than ridiculous posts about the crowd figures for fights in Europe in the 60's or making an absurd case that "Clay" ducked the likes of Piero Tomasoni.

Although, it's certainly a unique perspective to consider the lack of the name "Tomasoni" takes away from a resume that includes Foreman, Frazier, Liston, Holmes, Norton, Patterson etc etc...