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Dereck Chisora vs. Mariusz Wach in the works:

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/chisora ... rks-229139

Could be a good fight. Not really sure why Chisora's camp will be looking at Wach though after the good run Chisora is on. It seems a fairly high risk/low reward fight to me.

columbo wrote:Could be a good fight. Not really sure why Chisora's camp will be looking at Wach though after the good run Chisora is on. It seems a fairly high risk/low reward fight to me.

This is what is refreshing about chisora though. If you are a prospect, and if you are considered to be a threat, then chisora wants to fight you. Chisora will win some of these type of fights, he will lose some. But because of his attitude, he will be a contender for a while yet. Fair play to him.

smoothmoves wrote:

columbo wrote:Could be a good fight. Not really sure why Chisora's camp will be looking at Wach though after the good run Chisora is on. It seems a fairly high risk/low reward fight to me.

This is what is refreshing about chisora though. If you are a prospect, and if you are considered to be a threat, then chisora wants to fight you. Chisora will win some of these type of fights, he will lose some. But because of his attitude, he will be a contender for a while yet. Fair play to him.

Im not sure Wach really is a prospect now though. Wladimir absolutely dominated him and the cards were like 120-108 or something on most scorecards.

columbo wrote:Could be a good fight. Not really sure why Chisora's camp will be looking at Wach though after the good run Chisora is on. 2It seems a fairly high risk/low reward fight to me.

Agreed.

I wonder if this will be reminiscent of his fight against Robert Helenius because they are both fairly tall fighters... Helenius is 6'6.5 and Wach is 6'7.5.

smoothmoves wrote:This is what is refreshing about chisora though. If you are a prospect, and if you are considered to be a threat, then chisora wants to fight you. Chisora will win some of these type of fights, he will lose some.

I daresay that Chisora will lose more fights against top contenders compared to those he would win.

smoothmoves wrote:But because of his attitude, he will be a contender for a while yet. Fair play to him.

He won't be a top contender for very long if he goes on another losing streak.

I believe that becoming European Heavyweight Champion is the best that Chisora will achieve his career. I do not think that he has the pedigree to become a World Heavyweight Champion.

^ you're probably right. My point is that Chisora is a breath of fresh air compared to the safety first attitude most fighters adopt these days. Yes he has limited ability, but he is making the best of what he has, and making some serious corn at the same time. Good luck.

smoothmoves wrote:^ you're probably right. My point is that Chisora is a breath of fresh air compared to the safety first attitude most fighters adopt these days. Yes he has limited ability, but he is making the best of what he has, and making some serious corn at the same time. Good luck.

When you talk about his fighting style I agree... Though I don't like this "bad boy" attitude that he is presenting himself as.

Chisora is at a stage where another defeat don't mean much. I think he beats Wach though and it will do his career good too seeing as he was a recently Wlad challenger and carries a decent ranking.

lillywhite14 wrote:Chisora is at a stage where another defeat don't mean much. I think he beats Wach though and it will do his career good too seeing as he was a recently Wlad challenger and carries a decent ranking.

The problem is though mate that Wlad absolutely dominated Wach. I think Chisora would be better served fighting someone like Boystov who is still unbeaten and whilst has fought a lot of piss poor opposition hasnt been thoroughly beaten by a Klitschko.

Had Wach been dominated by someone like Arreola or Helenius there may be a problem, but he was dominated by the king of the division who dominates everyone he faces. Wach at least went the distance and rocked Wlad for a moment, and as a result he's generally considered a very tough guy who could hold his own against good heavyweights; in fact, I've already seen multiple predictions that he'd beat Chisora.

If Chisora won this fight without many problems, which I think is a realistic possibility, it would good for his career; a win over a recent title challenger and current contender would probably move him up a few spots in many rankings and gain him respect from those who weren't confident that he'd win. In my view, the risk vs reward ratio isn't as uneven as suggested above.

lillywhite14 wrote:I think he beats Wach though and it will do his career good too seeing as he was a recently Wlad challenger and carries a decent ranking.

I agree. Wach is a very tough guy, but that's reflected mainly in his ability to take punishment, not his ability to punish his opponents. I see Chisora as a superior fighter overall, and I think Chisora-Wach would resemble Chisora-Helenius.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1q_wECCWxc

Fair play to him for making the final bell, but Wach gets absolutely shashed to pieces against Wladimir and he's been out of the ring since. How much is left in the tank physically and mentally after that beating ? My guess - not very much.

Also let's not forget Wach tested positive for that fight, and still got beaten up.

I wonder how stringent the testing will be for this fight? Wach without 'roids may be a tamer beast.

columbo wrote:

lillywhite14 wrote:Chisora is at a stage where another defeat don't mean much. I think he beats Wach though and it will do his career good too seeing as he was a recently Wlad challenger and carries a decent ranking.

The problem is though mate that Wlad absolutely dominated Wach. I think Chisora would be better served fighting someone like Boystov who is still unbeaten and whilst has fought a lot of piss poor opposition hasnt been thoroughly beaten by a Klitschko.

boytsov is no1 contender for wladimir so will wait his turn.

i think chisora would be good vs likes of Charr/Seth Mitchell/ leapai/christian hammer

those fights help his rebuilding, his record and experience.

he can only beat WACH on points, not a KO or TKO

Chisora should take this on points - Wach is huge and has an absolutely ridiculous chin, but he's also slow as hell and I don't see him either being able to outhustle Chisora on the inside, where Chisora's at his best, or catching Chisora hard enough on the way in to put him away.

Crikey, Wach took a right old shelling there didn't he?

Crease wrote:I daresay that Chisora will lose more fights against top contenders compared to those he would win.

He'll beat more top contenders than he'll lose to.

Crease wrote:I do not think that he has the pedigree to become a World Heavyweight Champion.

Who does? When the Klitschkos have gone I don't see why Chisora can't win one of the 4 belts.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Crikey, Wach took a right old shelling there didn't he?

An absolute walloping and still came back for more, Wladimir must have been so annoyed he put everything into getting the kayo!

He shoudld fight charr. He just wont last night and seems game to fight anyone

columbo wrote:Could be a good fight. Not really sure why Chisora's camp will be looking at Wach though after the good run Chisora is on. It seems a fairly high risk/low reward fight to me.

He's European champion!! What do you want too see him face Danny Williams again!!

I'd like to see chisora v povetkin.

Horse wrote:

Crease wrote:I daresay that Chisora will lose more fights against top contenders compared to those he would win.

He'll beat more top contenders than he'll lose to.

Crease wrote:I do not think that he has the pedigree to become a World Heavyweight Champion.

Who does? When the Klitschkos have gone I don't see why Chisora can't win one of the 4 belts.

Right now it seems like most heavyweights (Charr, Fury, Haye, Stiverne etc.) are going the WBC route, in the belief that Vitali will retire, leaving the belt vacant for them to fight for it. It might be a better option for Chisora to look at the WBO, Warren has close links with them and Wladimir is running out of challengers and is heading towards retirement in the next couple of years, I can't realistically see him being beaten, so whoever positions themselves first in line after he retires will have a shot at a vacant title. The key is to keep Chisora busy in winnable fights until Wlad retires, then swoop in for the WBO title.

I saw 'Del Boy' live against Tony Booth and didn't think he would go far but he has fought tough opposition and has really grown on me.

Wach is a tough opponent though would prefer he had a comeback fight first. Can't fault Chisora's attitude - seems willing to fight anyone.

it's off..

Horse wrote: When the Klitschkos have gone I don't see why Chisora can't win one of the 4 belts.

This is probably an unpopular thing to say but I'd like to see that happen.

Final round wrote:it's off..

Like most decent fights that are mooted. Boxing is such a frustrating sport. Most fights just seem to fall through because of whatever. Why is it off?