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Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 17:15
by Jeff Thomas
-Ensley Bingham
-Wayne Alexander
-Paul 'silky' Jones
-Richard Williams
-Antony Farnell
-Takaloo
-Antony Small
-Jamie Moore
-Steve Roberts
-Neil Sinclair
-Paul Samuals
-Robert McKracken
-Brian Rose
-Prince Aaron
-Sam Webb
-Gary Lockett
-Ryan Rhodes

Great division for domestic talent, shame that the big fights didn't always happen.

Re: Rank these 15 UK Light Middles

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 17:36
by Jeff Thomas
Groove Armada wrote:
Jeff Thomas wrote:
Ensley Bingham 1
-Wayne Alexander 4
-Paul 'silky' Jones 5
-Richard Williams 2
-Antony Farnell 9
-Takaloo 7
-Antony Small 8
-Jamie Moore 3
-Steve Roberts 6
-Neil Sinclair 11
-Paul Samuals 10
-Robert McKracken ( Wasnt he a Middle?).
-Brian Rose 13
-Prince Aaron 9
-Sam Webb 12

Great division for domestic talent, shame that the big fights didn't always happen.
McCracken was commonwealth light middle champ I thought

Re: Rank these 15 UK Light Middles

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 19:54
by hurlock
Richard Williams 1
Alexander2
Roberts /Bingham
Locket
Rhodes

Re: Rank these 15 UK Light Middles

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 20:01
by n1ebf
Sinky dropped a man in a World Title fight don't forget, regardless that he lost.

Re: Rank these 15 UK Light Middles

Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 20:02
by world ranked
I was thinking were was Ryan Rhodes on this list

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 04:53
by mickey1975
Ryan is the best on that list.

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 05:09
by manno
RR is probably the best fighter but the best win imo is Jones' v phillips...having said that memory aint wot it was. Mcracken was a good fighter who i think lacked a defining fight..alexander n bingo could knock houses down..Roberts nWilliams extremely easy on the eye. Good post :TU:

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 05:14
by mickey1975
manno wrote:RR is probably the best fighter but the best win imo is Jones' v phillips...having said that memory aint wot it was. Mcracken was a good fighter who i think lacked a defining fight..alexander n bingo could knock houses down..Roberts nWilliams extremely easy on the eye. Good post :TU:
Rob had a title shot. It didn't help his fans were round the bend. Didn't do him any favours.

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 06:04
by manno
mickey1975 wrote:
manno wrote:RR is probably the best fighter but the best win imo is Jones' v phillips...having said that memory aint wot it was. Mcracken was a good fighter who i think lacked a defining fight..alexander n bingo could knock houses down..Roberts nWilliams extremely easy on the eye. Good post :TU:
Rob had a title shot. It didn't help his fans were round the bend. Didn't do him any favours.
yeh i know he got his shot mickey but dint he have to wait around inactive leading up to it? when i say defini.g fight i suppose i mean he never really showed off his talents to the fullest...thought he had so much more in his locker if you know wot i mean :TU:

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 06:10
by DMA1987
mickey1975 wrote:Ryan is the best on that list.
Deffo. I love Rhodes, the shot he dropped Moore with was a beaut. His style agreed with me.

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 06:17
by SamWise72
......Herol Graham? (not many people remember, but he was British, European and Commonwealth light middle champ)

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 06:23
by Counter-puncher
manno wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
manno wrote:RR is probably the best fighter but the best win imo is Jones' v phillips...having said that memory aint wot it was. Mcracken was a good fighter who i think lacked a defining fight..alexander n bingo could knock houses down..Roberts nWilliams extremely easy on the eye. Good post :TU:
Rob had a title shot. It didn't help his fans were round the bend. Didn't do him any favours.
yeh i know he got his shot mickey but dint he have to wait around inactive leading up to it? when i say defini.g fight i suppose i mean he never really showed off his talents to the fullest...thought he had so much more in his locker if you know wot i mean :TU:
not sure, he had good fundamentals, very good, but i don't think he had the pure talent, physically, that the guys at the absolute top have

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 07:52
by Bard of Boxrec
The answer can only be Richard 'Richard the Secret Williams' Williams.

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 08:51
by hurlock
Maurice hope was he l.middle
Did pyatt box at l.middle

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 09:48
by palooka
mickey1975 wrote:
manno wrote:RR is probably the best fighter but the best win imo is Jones' v phillips...having said that memory aint wot it was. Mcracken was a good fighter who i think lacked a defining fight..alexander n bingo could knock houses down..Roberts nWilliams extremely easy on the eye. Good post :TU:
Rob had a title shot. It didn't help his fans were round the bend. Didn't do him any favours.
Wasn't one of McCrackens brothers a top lad in the Zulus? Read it in the Andy Till biography, some bad lads in that mob.

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 09:54
by mickey1975
I saw them at it at one of Henry's fights. Nut jobs.. Not one of them could fight, either. Safety in numbers for those clowns.

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 10:33
by hurlock
Any football fan boozed & on the gear is a nuisance. I've seen some top lads go & it's embarrassing to watch.then you have got your loons that love a knife & are life threatening.
I knew a lad who could handle himself not mega hard or tough but he had a fracas on a match day & earnt this silly reputation & he said himself he got attacked by drunken supporters & they couldn't fight & he wasn't interested in this pack of Wally shite.

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 13:34
by Parson Cross
Jeff,
Your list is a bit confusing.
Rhodes disappeared and two ranked 9th ?
Where do you rank Rhodes ?
Any UK list of LM's should always include Herol Graham.

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 31 Oct 2013, 15:05
by Arnie
Riddick Blowe wrote:The answer can only be Richard 'Richard the Secret Williams' Williams.
I agree

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 01 Nov 2013, 06:26
by Jeff Thomas
Richard Williams
Jamie Moore
Robert McCraken
Ryan Rhodes
Paul 'silky' Jones
Gary Lockett
Wayne Alexander
Ensley Bingham
Steve Roberts
Brian Rose
Takaloo
Antony Farnell
Sam Webb
Neil Sinclair
Antony Small
Prince Aaron
Paul Samuals

That's loosely my list in my order but to be fair you can make a case for any of them beating each other on a good night.

Alexander Bingham would have being incredible but Wayne could punch with both hands whereas Ensley was predominantly a solid (understatement) left hooker.

Silky Jones was erratic and you could quite easily imagine him getting chinned by a prime Paul Samuals but when he was good he was really good.

It's sad to see how many of these tremendously talented fighters wallowed in inactivity and anonymity - time does separate a few of them but these were the crop of British talent and there are more you could add to that list....

Scott Dixon
Mathew Hall
Etc etc

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 01 Nov 2013, 12:33
by black panther
I know the correct answer. But it's a "secret".

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 01 Nov 2013, 13:22
by palooka
A man I know boxed both Sinclair and Alexander and said that he didn't really feel Neils punches but that Wayne hit very hard indeed; he also boxed Moore but I don't think his heart was in the sport anymore. I didn't believe him really about Sinclair not hitting that hard, I watched Neil v Dennis Berry and thought he hit very hard.

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 01 Nov 2013, 13:42
by hurlock
So Maurice hope won a WBC title with 4 defences & ain't good as fighters who couldn't reach world level

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 01 Nov 2013, 14:17
by palooka
hurlock wrote:So Maurice hope won a WBC title with 4 defences & ain't good as fighters who couldn't reach world level
To be fair it was 30 odd years ago and not within living memory of most posters.

Re: Rank these ever growing list of UK Light Middles

Posted: 01 Nov 2013, 16:48
by manno
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palooka wrote:A man I know boxed both Sinclair and Alexander and said that he didn't really feel Neils punches but that Wayne hit very hard indeed; he also boxed Moore but I don't think his heart was in the sport anymore. I didn't believe him really about Sinclair not hitting that hard, I watched Neil v Dennis Berry and thought he hit very hard.
Dennis Berry...dangerman :box: