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Il Duce wrote:Those 5 1/2 Rounds he fought with 34 year-old Muhammad Ali were some of the most intense Rounds
I had ever witnessed.

In the fight I watched Ali knocked him out in the 5th round.

In that photo unless he has the worlds longest hand it looks like his fingers are extended.....and the punch missed as well.

Ali should have retired after Manila . None of the fights after that enhanced his legacy and many of them damaged it. I will add the caveat that the Shavers fight showed him at his grittiest and gutsiest.

ThatOne wrote:Ali should have retired after Manila . None of the fights after that enhanced his legacy and many of them damaged it. I will add the caveat that the Shavers fight showed him at his grittiest and gutsiest.

I agree, he would've had a very decent record of 49-2 with 35 ko's if he retired then with the accolade of beating every fighter he fought.

Well when plumbers are "over the hill" they go ahead and put in a few more bathrooms before they retire. Gotta put bread on the table ...lol.

To answer your question Doo Chee.

Nah....not so's you'd notice....he was just putting in some work on one of the last kitchens of his career.

Il Duce wrote:Dr. Buzz Bomb

I think Muhammad Ali retired too early.

He could have fought another 6 or 7 bouts easily.

He was 'slurring his words' as early as 1972 anyway, what the hell.........

You really are a nasty sick fcuk..

evrenb wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Dr. Buzz Bomb

I think Muhammad Ali retired too early.

He could have fought another 6 or 7 bouts easily.

He was 'slurring his words' as early as 1972 anyway, what the hell.........

You really are a nasty sick fcuk..

Apparently he is seen by some as a knowledgable poster with an in-depth understanding of the 70's heavyweight scene.

Il Duce wrote:

Giancarlo wrote: Apparently he is seen by some as a knowledgable poster with an in-depth understanding of the 70's heavyweight scene.

Hey, Gypsy Giancarlo.

Want to go 'Post by Post', and let's see who has more knowledge about Boxing.

There is a reason why the Brits created Australia.............

Duchess, the amount of ignorance in that post is staggering. Even by your standards.

No wonder you have been banned from half a dozen boxing forums.

evrenb wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Dr. Buzz Bomb

I think Muhammad Ali retired too early.

He could have fought another 6 or 7 bouts easily.

He was 'slurring his words' as early as 1972 anyway, what the hell.........

You really are a nasty sick fcuk..

Muhammad Ali has literally ruined him...He needs our empathy and not our antipathy.

That's how the GOAT would want it.

Il Duce wrote:Muhammad Ali,

"All white people are the Devil."

"I am a member of the Negro Supremacist Party."

'Look at my Fancy Party Hat'

What is this a racist picking on a racist ? At least Ali had a point.. at that time in history..and at least Ali never believed it. He was a sheep.
You Duchess are an evil little liar boy wolf.
Your biggest lie?? Saying you had a girlfriend once..

evrenb wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Muhammad Ali,

"All white people are the Devil."

"I am a member of the Negro Supremacist Party."

'Look at my Fancy Party Hat'

What is this a racist picking on a racist ? At least Ali had a point.. at that time in history..and at least Ali never believed it. He was a sheep.
You Duchess are an evil little liar boy wolf.
Your biggest lie?? Saying you had a girlfriend once..

Ask Duce what his reasons were for joining the Klan.

Il Duce wrote:Mr. Evren B,

Oh, I see.

Cassius Clay had a purpose.

And, me. I'm just 'Evil' girlfriend.

Yes he had a purpose. His name is Muhammad Ali...not Cassius Clay. What part of that do you not understand.?
And to get back to the original point of your topic. Sarcastic or unsarcastic ; no Coopman did not take 'alot' out of Muhammad Ali.

Ali took an easy defense after beating Wepner, Lyle, Bugner and Frazier. I know you want to make a mockery of Ali as much as possible but you do a sh1t job...your research involves countless hours trawling through Google for information in a pointless exercise.
It's like this ; 'One day in the life of Ali's was worth 1000 Il Duces life times.
If you can think of a more popular, well written about, well documented fighter as Ali I would like to know who? If you do I want a list of every article , ever written about every boxer that ever lived then I challenge you to compile a list. I know you have the time for it. Goodnight.

evrenb wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Mr. Evren B,

Oh, I see.

Cassius Clay had a purpose.

And, me. I'm just 'Evil' girlfriend.

Yes he had a purpose. His name is Muhammad Ali...not Cassius Clay. What part of that do you not understand.?
And to get back to the original point of your topic. Sarcastic or unsarcastic ; no Coopman did not take 'alot' out of Muhammad Ali.

Ali took an easy defense after beating Wepner, Lyle, Bugner and Frazier. I know you want to make a mockery of Ali as much as possible but you do a sh1t job...your research involves countless hours trawling through Google for information in a pointless exercise.
It's like this ; 'One day in the life of Ali's was worth 1000 Il Duces life times.
If you can think of a more popular, well written about, well documented fighter as Ali I would like to know who? If you do I want a list of every article , ever written about every boxer that ever lived then I challenge you to compile a list. I know you have the time for it. Goodnight.

No boxer has had more books and articles written about him than the GOAT because he not only belongs to sports history he belongs to American history.

ThatOne wrote:

evrenb wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Muhammad Ali,

"All white people are the Devil."

"I am a member of the Negro Supremacist Party."

'Look at my Fancy Party Hat'

What is this a racist picking on a racist ? At least Ali had a point.. at that time in history..and at least Ali never believed it. He was a sheep.
You Duchess are an evil little liar boy wolf.
Your biggest lie?? Saying you had a girlfriend once..

Ask Duce what his reasons were for joining the Klan.

(1) So he could openly share his racist views with other idiots

(2) So he wouldn't always be the dumbest guy at the party

(3) Because they have negotiated a group discount on getting their sheets washed. And you can imagine the state of his sheets after a klan party...

Il Duce wrote:Chapter 3

How to 'Buck' the Draft in 5 Easy Steps.

Duce

Can you not see the evolution of Civil Rights in America during this period? Can you not see how Ali gave suppressed black people of America a voice and a face. It was a shameful time in history and Ali stands alongside others as those who gave the 'Civil Rights Movement' a name.
I do fully appreciate how it is upsetting to those who lost relatives in war and how they would be bitter against a 'draft dodger'. But this is the bigger picture ; Ali was a black man who had no equality in his own country yet he was asked to fight for his country when he had no true freedom himself. He took the step to say no. For the right of his people.
Ali no longer believes in segregation between Black and White and all that nonsense because as in the words of Ali ' The man who sees the world at 40 the same as he does at 20 has wasted 20 years of his life' . He grew as an individual and his leader was corrupt. I know you have a vendetta Duce and your comments are funny...sometimes...but would you say this to Ali if he were in the room with you now? Would you be such a brave tough guy 'keyboard warrior' ?

Respect

Evren

evrenb wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Chapter 3

How to 'Buck' the Draft in 5 Easy Steps.

Duce

Can you not see the evolution of Civil Rights in America during this period? Can you not see how Ali gave suppressed black people of America a voice and a face. It was a shameful time in history and Ali stands alongside others as those who gave the 'Civil Rights Movement' a name.
I do fully appreciate how it is upsetting to those who lost relatives in war and how they would be bitter against a 'draft dodger'. But this is the bigger picture ; Ali was a black man who had no equality in his own country yet he was asked to fight for his country when he had no true freedom himself. He took the step to say no. For the right of his people.
Ali no longer believes in segregation between Black and White and all that nonsense because as in the words of Ali ' The man who sees the world at 40 the same as he does at 20 has wasted 20 years of his life' . He grew as an individual and his leader was corrupt. I know you have a vendetta Duce and your comments are funny...sometimes...but would you say this to Ali if he were in the room with you now? Would you be such a brave tough guy 'keyboard warrior' ?

Respect

Evren

Il Duce wears his ignorance like a badge. I check this board two or three times a day to glance at the aberrant nonsense he spews, then respond to it, so I can have more to read the next time I visit so I can respond again...

It's actually quite entertaining.

Il Duce wrote:Mr. That Way,

List 'one', just one important Civil Rights issue that Muhammad Ali directed, or changed.

Tic, Tic, Tic, Tic.

He is a glistening example of what a fully emancipated black male could accomplish...His mere presence was enough. "He is the Alpha and the Omega."

Il Duce wrote:

ThatOne wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Mr. That Way,

List 'one', just one important Civil Rights issue that Muhammad Ali directed, or changed.

Tic, Tic, Tic, Tic.

He is a glistening example of what a fully emancipated black male could accomplish...His mere presence was enough. "He is the Alpha and the Omega."

Yes, all well in good for a 'self-accomplishment'.

But what about for the 'Good of his Race'.

He served as a source of inspiration:


“At the time he was talking to our nation and talking to most of us that were confused as blacks. It was after (April 4, 1968) Martin Luther King passed. He told us to be proud, to wear your hair long. The way he spoke was very special to young people like me.
“I compare Muhammad Ali to Jackie Robinson. I always felt Jackie was a natural resource for our country and for all people. Someone had to listen to Jackie’s story and someone had to support Muhammad that was in a position of power. And 99 percent of the time those people are white and those are the people who assisted in paving the way for equality and to help level the playing field.
“Branch Rickey had to report to someone in order to get permission to bring Jackie Robinson into the majors. There was a guy that had to be financially responsible for the upside or the downside and that was Walter O’Malley, the owner of the Dodgers.
“So, people who brought young, African American athletes [like Joe Caldwell] to Arizona State and different places around the country, I think it is important to recognize their leadership. They were important for everybody, not just a particular race. If you recognize the changes that were made with Martin Luther King and the people that died, there were just as many whites as blacks.
“When I look at Muhammad Ali, I see the greatest in him as a person. I call his character one of the greatest with regard to who he is, who he became.”

-Reginald Martinez Jackson aka Mr. October

ThatOne wrote:It's actually quite entertaining.

I thought it was quite entertaining for a while but it's actually just total b@##!cks.

Il Duce wrote:

SteveO wrote:

ThatOne wrote:It's actually quite entertaining.

I thought it was quite entertaining for a while but it's actually just total b@##!cks.

Steve O.

Why don't you start one of your exciting Subjects that no one responds to.

Muhammad Ali vs. Jean-Pierre Coopman a prelude to the Jimmy Young bout for the 'aging' Champion.

Jean-Pierre,
"I believe I took a lot out of Muhammad Ali. He was never the same after he fought me."

Jean-Pierre,
"I was affected more by the 'heat, humidity and bright lights', not Muhammad's punch. The lights
blinded me, and I couldn't see the punch coming at me."

In other words you would like Mr. O to join you in your absurdity, right?

Il Duce wrote:

SteveO wrote:

ThatOne wrote:It's actually quite entertaining.

I thought it was quite entertaining for a while but it's actually just total b@##!cks.

Steve O.

Why don't you start one of your exciting Subjects that no one responds to.

Muhammad Ali vs. Jean-Pierre Coopman a prelude to the Jimmy Young bout for the 'aging' Champion.

Jean-Pierre,
"I believe I took a lot out of Muhammad Ali. He was never the same after he fought me."

Jean-Pierre,
"I was affected more by the 'heat, humidity and bright lights', not Muhammad's punch. The lights
blinded me, and I couldn't see the punch coming at me."

Didnt Ali have the same ring lights and heat affecting him? What a joke...your posts are popular as you deliberately antogonize, incite and be controversial. As you get no attention elsewhere you look for it here. Joker!!!

Did Jean-Pierre Coopman take alot out of Muhammad Ali ?

"A lot " is two words. You wouldn't say "alittle."

Thank you.

Il Duce wrote:

ThatOne wrote:Did Jean-Pierre Coopman take alot out of Muhammad Ali ?

"A lot " is two words. You wouldn't say "alittle."

Thank you.

Are you arguing with yourself again.........A lot

I was quoting you, ergo:

"Did Jean-Pierre Coopman take alot out of Muhammad Ali ?"

There is no such word as "alot" . I have taught you a lot in our time together. Much of which you have failed to learn. However I hope you learned how to spell "a lot".

Il Duce wrote:The word/words

'a lot' is an informal phrase that many poorly educated people spell 'alot'.

ie; Muhammad Ali grabbed Joe Frazier 'a lot', and committed 'alot' of filthy fouls.

FIXED

I'll be honest, AFTER the Wepner fight we saw Ali get slower, slower, easier to hit, and in worse and worse shape. Wepner was the last man Ali ever faced where Ali danced and was active and looked sharp in the ring.