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How much crap can one man write?? (is he a man???) the duchebag is still scribbling his(her) bilge here....

fatcity69 wrote:How much crap can one man write?? (is he a man???) the duchebag is still scribbling his(her) bilge here....

Maybe he likes showing his ass.

C'mon.....Il Duce is simply offering up some information and opinion with his own unique perspective.


You are all free to do the same if it suits your fancy.


Just be sure to understand that much of his information is opinion...and you'll be fine.

No one could fall like Richard.

I watched that fight with my Father and he was quite entertained by the affair.

Was he as worthy of a shot as Ali was when Liston fought him? No.


Was he as worthy as about a dozen of Joe Louis's "bums"? Probably.

BoxBuzz wrote:Was he as worthy of a shot as Ali was when Liston fought him? No.


Was he as worthy as about a dozen of Joe Louis's "bums"? Probably.

Plenty of underserving fighters Rademacher, Marvis Frazier, Tim Tomashek etc...etc....If you want to spend enough time you can makes any fighters career sound average.

Controversial wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:Was he as worthy of a shot as Ali was when Liston fought him? No.


Was he as worthy as about a dozen of Joe Louis's "bums"? Probably.

Plenty of underserving fighters Rademacher, Marvis Frazier, Tim Tomashek etc...etc....

Terry Daniels and Ron Stander for instance.

But you won't see a couple of posts from The Duchess denigrating their worth.

Giancarlo wrote:

Controversial wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:Was he as worthy of a shot as Ali was when Liston fought him? No.


Was he as worthy as about a dozen of Joe Louis's "bums"? Probably.

Plenty of underserving fighters Rademacher, Marvis Frazier, Tim Tomashek etc...etc....

Terry Daniels and Ron Stander for instance.

But you won't see a couple of posts from The Duchess denigrating their worth.

There were "reasons" for those two guys. Justifiable, reasonable, honorable, and acceptable to all.

And Il Duce will eventually get around to revealing the shocking fax!


Stay tuned!

Il Duce wrote:My Terry Daniels and Ron Stander beats your Jean-Pierre Coopman and Richard Dunn.

All '4' have many things in common.

Can you name '10' things in common between the men.

Why Yes....yes I can. Thanks for asking!

[quot[img][/img][b][/b][b][/b]e="Il Duce"]February 17, 1975

World Sporting Club, Grosvenor House - Mayfair, London

Anybody have information on Richard Dunn's thrilling bout with 'Jamaican' Neville Meade.

A wild bout, with Richard coming back to score a TKO 4 over the Swansea, Wales-based Neville Meade.

The 6' 0" 212 lb. powerfully-built 26 year-old 'hard-punching' Neville Meade, a former Commonwealth Amateur Champion
with a record of 5-1-0 {4 KO's} thought he could use 'washed up' Richard Dunn as a mark on his record.

Richard hadn't fought in 5-Months, and took the bout to make some extra 'pounds'. The 'shocking' and
impressive win improved 30 year-old Richard Dunn's spotty record to 28-9-0 {12 KO's}.[/quote][url][/url]

[quote="broonel"][quote="Il Duce"]February 17, 19

Ali just played with Dunne for a few rounds with no real intent it was left to Bugner who for once in his life came out swinging and showed Dunne he was out of his depth !

broonel wrote:
Ali just played with Dunne for a few rounds with no real intent it was left to Bugner who for once in his life came out swinging and showed Dunne he was out of his depth !

The build up was good too.

Dunne had foolishly suggested in front of the TV cameras that Bugner lacked courage and that at least he (Dunne) had actually tried to win rather than just going the distance.

This seemed to genuinely anger the normally placid Bugner and added an interesting 'edge' to what was already an eagerly anticipated showdown.

Hey Il Duce....I found this....did you want it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Dk-94ovDs

Many times before?

Were there any "clues" as to more Ali "complications" or "deficits" revealed within that short bit of film?

I have been known to miss a few without having them pointed out to me.

Il Duce wrote:Richard Dunn,

Gave 100% against Muhammad Ali.

He fought with his heart, and put in his best effort to win.

A former 'Paratrooper' as well.

I never doubted Dunn s courage and most people would have agreed with his pre match comments on Bugner . Everyone knew Bugner was the better boxer , he did go 15 with Aii and Frazier (ok I don't think he hit either of them) but who else can say they did that ?

broonel wrote:I never doubted Dunn s courage and most people would have agreed with his pre match comments on Bugner . Everyone knew Bugner was the better boxer , he did go 15 with Aii and Frazier (ok I don't think he hit either of them) but who else can say they did that ?

Bugner shook Joe to his boots at Earls Court in 1973. It was a very good performance by Joe B.
Dunn was a good fighter with a not-so-great chin.

eb

Ok ! my memory of the Joe B and Joe F fight is not great ( will have to watch it again ) but you know what I mean , Bugner could have gone much further !

evrenb wrote:

broonel wrote:I never doubted Dunn s courage and most people would have agreed with his pre match comments on Bugner . Everyone knew Bugner was the better boxer , he did go 15 with Aii and Frazier (ok I don't think he hit either of them) but who else can say they did that ?

Bugner shook Joe to his boots at Earls Court in 1973. It was a very good performance by Joe B.
Dunn was a good fighter with a not-so-great chin.

eb

Before Bugner "shook Joe to his boots", Frazier had Bugner helpless in the corner in the 10th round with a big hook.

Bugner was doing some kind of Hungarian Two Step Twitch as he slowly fell.

If Frazier had a mind to, he could have ended things right then and there.

Too nice a guy was Joe + that joy of combat mentality had largely left him after he accomplished his real goal in '71.

yancey wrote:

evrenb wrote:

broonel wrote:I never doubted Dunn s courage and most people would have agreed with his pre match comments on Bugner . Everyone knew Bugner was the better boxer , he did go 15 with Aii and Frazier (ok I don't think he hit either of them) but who else can say they did that ?

Bugner shook Joe to his boots at Earls Court in 1973. It was a very good performance by Joe B.
Dunn was a good fighter with a not-so-great chin.

eb

Before Bugner "shook Joe to his boots", Frazier had Bugner helpless in the corner in the 10th round with a big hook.

Bugner was doing some kind of Hungarian Two Step Twitch as he slowly fell.

If Frazier had a mind to, he could have ended things right then and there.

Too nice a guy was Joe + that joy of combat mentality had largely left him after he accomplished his real goal in '71.

Yeah thats right. It was a decent fight and Bugner put up a good display. Frazier's chin was his weakest point and he didn't have many. . My third favourite fighter of all times.

yancey wrote:
Too nice a guy was Joe + that joy of combat mentality had largely left him after he accomplished his real goal in '71.

Its been said he lost something after Regis died early in his career, it affected Bugner quite bad.

Controversial wrote:

yancey wrote:
Too nice a guy was Joe + that joy of combat mentality had largely left him after he accomplished his real goal in '71.

Its been said he lost something after Regis died early in his career, it affected Bugner quite bad.

I think he meant Frazier???

Meaning 1971's defeat of Ali.

evrenb wrote:

Controversial wrote:

yancey wrote:
Too nice a guy was Joe + that joy of combat mentality had largely left him after he accomplished his real goal in '71.

Its been said he lost something after Regis died early in his career, it affected Bugner quite bad.

I think he meant Frazier???

Meaning 1971's defeat of Ali.

Oh yeah, I thought the "combat mentality" line was odd when talking about Bugner :-)

evrenb wrote:

Controversial wrote:

yancey wrote:
Too nice a guy was Joe + that joy of combat mentality had largely left him after he accomplished his real goal in '71.

Its been said he lost something after Regis died early in his career, it affected Bugner quite bad.

I think he meant Frazier???

Meaning 1971's defeat of Ali.

Correct.

ThatOne wrote:

fatcity69 wrote:How much crap can one man write?? (is he a man???) the duchebag is still scribbling his(her) bilge here....

Maybe he likes showing his ass.

Trolls have ruined this board