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Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 03:27
by NYDominican
Top professional boxing trainers. ------
Ray Arcel, Eddie Futch, Angelo Dundee, Lou Duva, Emmanuel Steward and Freddie Roach.
The names in this list. ------ Who were the top 3 trainers?
Who were the top 2 trainers?
Who was the best trainer of all time?
Why?
Any other names of top trainers. ----- Feel free to list their names.
Please explain why they deserve to be among the top.
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 04:15
by Giancarlo
Morris 'Whitey' Bimstein belongs in that list.
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 04:16
by SaadOffTheDeck
Jack Blackburn
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 07:26
by evrenb
NYDominican wrote:Top professional boxing trainers. ------
Ray Arcel, Eddie Futch, Angelo Dundee, Lou Duva, Emmanuel Steward and Freddie Roach.
The names in this list. ------ Who were the top 3 trainers?
Who were the top 2 trainers?
Who was the best trainer of all time?
Why?
Any other names of top trainers. ----- Feel free to list their names.
Please explain why they deserve to be among the top.
Freddy Brown
Charlie Goldman
Cus D'Amato
I know this is a bit out of league but I think for modern day Robert McCracken should be mentioned. He is a superb trainer and cornerman.
evrenb
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 07:34
by evrenb
Il Duce wrote:Underrated
Chickie Ferrera
Paddy Flood
Gregorio Benetiz
Archie Moore
Gil Clancy should be here too
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 11:53
by pbchron
Philadelphia's JIMMY WILSON , trained Midget Wolgast, Gus Dorazio, Sonny Liston, Ike Williams, Johnny Saxton, Lew Jenkins, Dan Bucceroni, Clarence Henry, Coley Wallace, Eddie Giosa, Billy Fox, and many others.
WHITEY ESNAULT from New Orleans taught and trained Bernard Docusen, Maxie Docusen, Ralph Dupas, Willie Pastrano, Freddie Little, Vince Bonomo, Ralph Chong, Tony Licata, etc.
Geez, there were great trainers all over the world like JACKIE MCCOY in Los Angeles, BILL GORE, JACK BRADY and JIMMY COSTER from Philly, IZZY KLINE from Chicago, L.A.'s GEORGE BLAKE (all who trained multible champions), and a hundred other guys that should be remembered on these threads but aren't.
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 16 Nov 2013, 23:46
by elmersalsa
They are American trainers. That does not mean they were the best
Some great trainers were not Americans
Amilcar Brusa and Tito Lectoure were from Argentina
Luis Spada was from Argentina but lived in Panama
Mexican trainers like Nacho Beristain, Cristobal Rosas and Cuyo Hernandez were great.
In Japan we have one by his last name Suzuki
In Panama there was Curro Dossman
In England there was Mickey Duff
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 17 Nov 2013, 12:17
by pbchron
Elmersalsa, if you read the post it said, "Geez, there were great trainers all over the world." Sorry I didn't name all of them but thanks for adding more deserving names. Those I named and those you named should be remembered as great along with others not named. It is just tiresome hearing the same names over and over as being the best. OK ?
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 17 Nov 2013, 18:53
by misterpunch
whitey
arcel
goldman
George francis
eddie futch
Freddie brown - these are the great world renowned guys but the posts above show fantastic trainers are found in many different places and are working without fame
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 05 Jan 2025, 18:31
by Olivares
One trainer that should not be overlooked was Dai Dollings of Wales. This is a list of fighters he trained during his career that I have compiled over the years, and many of them held World Titles during a time when there was only one Champion per division.
Bill Brennan
Jack Britton
Panama Al Brown
Johnny Dundee
Pete Latzo
Gus Lesnevich
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Jimmy McLarnin
Mike McTigue
Gunner Moir
Spike Robson
Dave Shade
Digger Stanley
Tom Thomas
Gene Tunney
Matt Wells
Harry Wills
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 05 Jan 2025, 20:52
by goose 5
Dollings taught Ray Arcel, didn't he ?
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 14:04
by Ambling Alp II
Olivares wrote: ↑05 Jan 2025, 18:31
One trainer that should not be overlooked was Dai Dollings of Wales. This is a list of fighters he trained during his career that I have compiled over the years, and many of them held World Titles during a time when there was only one Champion per division.
Bill Brennan
Jack Britton
Panama Al Brown
Johnny Dundee
Pete Latzo
Gus Lesnevich
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Jimmy McLarnin
Mike McTigue
Gunner Moir
Spike Robson
Dave Shade
Digger Stanley
Tom Thomas
Gene Tunney
Matt Wells
Harry Wills
Not sure how long he trained these guys and when, but that looks pretty impressive.
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 16:30
by Expug
evrenb wrote: ↑16 Nov 2013, 07:34
Il Duce wrote:Underrated
Chickie Ferrera
Paddy Flood
Gregorio Benetiz
Archie Moore
Gil Clancy should be here too
I think Clancy did a great job guiding Emile Griffith to a great career as he had him from his earliest amateur days. I take away points because of the job he did as Jerry Quarry’s trainer in the Norton fight. Gil should never have let Quarry take all that punishment. He was shelled in that fight. Pull him out of there. Unnecessary beating.
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 16:36
by Ambling Alp II
Never was sure how great of a trainer he was. He doesn't seem to have that many guys who had really good careers.
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 17:10
by prewarboxing
Miles Templeton
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 10 Jan 2025, 17:12
by Expug
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 16:36
Never was sure how great of a trainer he was. He doesn't seem to have that many guys who had really good careers.
[Im curious how many successful fighters he has had from the start of their careers. He had Tiger Jones also who ran hot and cold.
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 11 Jan 2025, 15:52
by JMac
George Benton from Philly
Re: Top professional boxing trainers? -------
Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 11:03
by Olivares
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑10 Jan 2025, 14:04
Olivares wrote: ↑05 Jan 2025, 18:31
One trainer that should not be overlooked was Dai Dollings of Wales. This is a list of fighters he trained during his career that I have compiled over the years, and many of them held World Titles during a time when there was only one Champion per division.
Bill Brennan
Jack Britton
Panama Al Brown
Johnny Dundee
Pete Latzo
Gus Lesnevich
Ted "Kid" Lewis
Jimmy McLarnin
Mike McTigue
Gunner Moir
Spike Robson
Dave Shade
Digger Stanley
Tom Thomas
Gene Tunney
Matt Wells
Harry Wills
Not sure how long he trained these guys and when, but that looks pretty impressive.
I believe the only fighters listed above that Dollings may not have guided to the Championship are Mike McTigue, and Gene Tunney. McTigue was usually trained by Bill Gore, and Gene Tunney was guided to the title by Whitey Bimstein.