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Giancarlo wrote:Holmes on points over 15 ............. as long as he can stick to his game plan.

If Frazier can get past the jab it is Joe's fight.

SenorPipino wrote:

Giancarlo wrote:Holmes on points over 15 ............. as long as he can stick to his game plan.

If Frazier can get past the jab it is Joe's fight.

That's a mighty big "if."
It was one of the better jabs in heavyweight history.
What did Holmes call it? "Letting the Dogs Out."
Woof Woof on Frazier's face all night long.

SenorPipino wrote:

Giancarlo wrote:Holmes on points over 15 ............. as long as he can stick to his game plan.

If Frazier can get past the jab it is Joe's fight.

That's a mighty big "if."
It was one of the better jabs in heavyweight history.
What did Holmes call it? "Letting the Dogs Out."
Woof Woof on Frazier's face all night long.

Il Duce wrote:Larry Holmes

* Too much movement
* Too much speed
* Too many left jabs
* Too many straight right-hands

Larry may even drop 'Smokin Joe' early with a straight right-hand.

A systematic paint-job after Round 10. where Smokin Joe gets his left eye closed, and the bout is stopped by a TKO late.

Il Duce wrote:Mr. Yancey

You can't compare Larry Holmes to Muhammad Ali.

First off, Larry was better.

Second, Larry wouldn't allow himself to be 'cornered and trapped', and wouldn't lay back on
the ropes and let 'Smokin Joe' whack him like Muhammad Ali allowed Joe.

Most important, Larry's left-jab pulverized his opponents, and came at you with 'force'
like a Diesel Engine Piston.

'Smokin Joe' would be relentless from Rounds 5 thru 9 - but as he slowed down a step in Round 10,
he would not be 'bobbing-and-weaving' as much, and would be more upright.

This would set up Larry to deliver the hard left-jabs and straight right-hand 'Ram-Rods' down the
Philadelphia Turnpike.

Larry's rapid left-jabs and hard right-hand punches late in Round 10, will swell Smokin Joe's left eye.

Joe will deliver an all-out effort early in Round 11, but by the end of the Round, Joe's left eye will be
completely closed from absorbing several hard left-jabs from Larry. Joe will have vision problems,
and will not be able to see out of the eye.

The Ringside Doctor will examine Joe at the end of Round 11, and allows him 'one more round'.

Round 12, Joe will try, but cannot see as he swings but misses badly. Larry attacks with an assortment
of solid left hands on the eye during the first {1:30}.

Just past the mid-way point in the Round, Larry will catch Joe coming in with a blistering right-hand to the
left eye and Joe will move backwards unable to see. Larry moves in quickly and fires away with several whipping
right-hands to the left side of Joe's head that he cannot see. The Ringside Commission Doctor calls for the Referee
to halt the bout at {1:57} of Round 12.

Larry Holmes wins by a TKO in 12.

Scorecard
Round 1........ 10-9.....{Larry}
Round 2........ 10-9.....{Larry}
Round 3........ 10-9.....{Larry}
Round 4........ 10-9.....{Larry}
Round 5........ 10-9......{Joe}
Round 6........ 10-9......{Joe}
Round 7........ 10-10....'Even'
Round 8........ 10-9......{Joe}
Round 9........ 10-9......{Joe}
Round 10...... 10-9.....{Larry}
Round 11...... 10-9.....{Larry}

Il Duce wrote:Mr. Yancey,

OUCH !!!

A hard fight for me to 'Pick-A-Winner', as I admire both guys.

A} > Larry had the better defense, and was pretty damn good at defending against the left hook.
B} > Nobody ever worked over Larry's body.
C} > Larry's left jab would have been in high-gear all night long.
D} > Joe was very quick in 1968/1969, so he would have been on top of Larry, but,,,,,,