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It all went off...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GdhrPh09TX ... dhrPh09TX0
Here's different angle
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LjbWs_hnOH ... jbWs_hnOHo

Can't use the word Mexican but can say Faggot.... Gettin spicy this one

junior pepa seed wrote:It all went off...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GdhrPh09TX ... dhrPh09TX0
Here's different angle
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LjbWs_hnOH ... jbWs_hnOHo

Can't use the word Mexican but can say Faggot.... Gettin spicy this one

I saw it earlier. Thought Ariza was particularily vile mocking Freddie for his Parkinson's and then proceeding to kick him. I have a feeling Pacquaio is going to beat the absolute crap out of Rios come fight night.

columbo wrote:

junior pepa seed wrote:It all went off...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GdhrPh09TX ... dhrPh09TX0
Here's different angle
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LjbWs_hnOH ... jbWs_hnOHo

Can't use the word Mexican but can say Faggot.... Gettin spicy this one

I saw it earlier. Thought Ariza was particularily vile mocking Freddie for his Parkinson's and then proceeding to kick him. I have a feeling Pacquaio is going to beat the absolute crap out of Rios come fight night.

Yeah was real school yard stuff.. Ariza kicked Roach is crazy was no need I never saw until that other video with different angle..makes for a big showdown.

junior pepa seed wrote:

columbo wrote:

junior pepa seed wrote:It all went off...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GdhrPh09TX ... dhrPh09TX0
Here's different angle
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LjbWs_hnOH ... jbWs_hnOHo

Can't use the word Mexican but can say Faggot.... Gettin spicy this one

I saw it earlier. Thought Ariza was particularily vile mocking Freddie for his Parkinson's and then proceeding to kick him. I have a feeling Pacquaio is going to beat the absolute crap out of Rios come fight night.

Yeah was real school yard stuff.. Ariza kicked Roach is crazy was no need I never saw until that other video with different angle..makes for a big showdown.

Roach was partly at fault. He's never forgiven Robert Garcia and Rios and Margarito and the rest of that camp for when they mocked him for his illness a few years back.... Here's the video of that incident http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYKkbdjjCI4

Roach was goading them, he came across as the biggest twat of all in that.

The_Don1 wrote:Roach was goading them, he came across as the biggest twat of all in that.

Not as bad as Ariza kicking and old man with parkinson's and mocking him for the illness.

They are just lucky David Haye wasn't there....

This angle is better hopefully Ariza gets done for assault total scum bag.

columbo wrote:

The_Don1 wrote:Roach was goading them, he came across as the biggest twat of all in that.

Not as bad as Ariza kicking and old man with parkinson's and mocking him for the illness.

fair point, Roach was trying to get a reaction though, he should have just left it.

The_Don1 wrote:

columbo wrote:

The_Don1 wrote:Roach was goading them, he came across as the biggest twat of all in that.

Not as bad as Ariza kicking and old man with parkinson's and mocking him for the illness.

fair point, Roach was trying to get a reaction though, he should have just left it.

I agree that Roach's initial behaviour wasnt good. He should of approached it differently. Saying that though, he clearly still holds a lot of resentment from when Margarito and Rios were mocking him over the Parkinson's and Garcia was laughing in the background. Anyway, one of Garcia's friends starts mouthing off and then it got a lot worse. Ariza started mocking Roach's speech and then Roach started walking towards him and Ariza kicks him and then starts saying "faggot" and all kinds of crap. Roach call's the guy initially mouthing off a "mexican motherfucker" which was out of line and then he proceeds to try and punch Roach which is really messed up to me as Roach is getting on in age is quite a small guy and again has Parkinson's. Not classy from either side but Ariza was the worst I think. I saw a radio interview from a little while back when he was trying to claim that it was him that made Pacquaio a great fighter! .. since him leaving, apparantly Manny is only average now lol. He's got an ego the size of the moon!

columbo wrote:I saw a radio interview from a little while back when he was trying to claim that it was him that made Pacquaio a great fighter!

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if that turns out to be true and Ariza one day cashes in on it via a tearful confession on Opera.

Sklar wrote:

columbo wrote:I saw a radio interview from a little while back when he was trying to claim that it was him that made Pacquaio a great fighter!

I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if that turns out to be true and Ariza one day cashes in on it via a tearful confession on Opera.

Haha I know what you're getting at and I have my suspicions too as im sure a lot do.

Ariza is a wanker.

All very petty but it does make you wonder if Roach is a bit worried about this fight. Manny in general has a lot going on during training camps but this time they've also had to deal with a genuine crisis that will have affected Manny and probably his training. He may not have been to the area to help but i'm sure he will have had a lot of calls/emails etc from fellow politicians/media etc that will have taken up his time and mentally drained him

freddydoesdallas wrote:All very petty but it does make you wonder if Roach is a bit worried about this fight. Manny in general has a lot going on during training camps but this time they've also had to deal with a genuine crisis that will have affected Manny and probably his training. He may not have been to the area to help but i'm sure he will have had a lot of calls/emails etc from fellow politicians/media etc that will have taken up his time and mentally drained him

Even if that is the case I still think he'll batter Rios. Rios style wise is made for Manny I think.

columbo wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:All very petty but it does make you wonder if Roach is a bit worried about this fight. Manny in general has a lot going on during training camps but this time they've also had to deal with a genuine crisis that will have affected Manny and probably his training. He may not have been to the area to help but i'm sure he will have had a lot of calls/emails etc from fellow politicians/media etc that will have taken up his time and mentally drained him

Even if that is the case I still think he'll batter Rios. Rios style wise is made for Manny I think.

I still expect Manny to win but it might be tougher than we expect especially if they think the ko to Marquez was a freak. He was getting timed easily and i'm sure Rios could drop one in at the right time too.

freddydoesdallas wrote:

columbo wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:All very petty but it does make you wonder if Roach is a bit worried about this fight. Manny in general has a lot going on during training camps but this time they've also had to deal with a genuine crisis that will have affected Manny and probably his training. He may not have been to the area to help but i'm sure he will have had a lot of calls/emails etc from fellow politicians/media etc that will have taken up his time and mentally drained him

Even if that is the case I still think he'll batter Rios. Rios style wise is made for Manny I think.

I still expect Manny to win but it might be tougher than we expect especially if they think the ko to Marquez was a freak. He was getting timed easily and i'm sure Rios could drop one in at the right time too.

True but Rios isnt a counter puncher to be fair. He's not slick at all.

freddydoesdallas wrote:All very petty but it does make you wonder if Roach is a bit worried about this fight. Manny in general has a lot going on during training camps but this time they've also had to deal with a genuine crisis that will have affected Manny and probably his training. He may not have been to the area to help but i'm sure he will have had a lot of calls/emails etc from fellow politicians/media etc that will have taken up his time and mentally drained him

I just don't think Freddie is the saint some fans do. He was quite hard edged on that documentary on BN. Looked capable of being a total twat. To be fair, Roach started all of that.

Freddie started it and Ariza being a bit of a dick didn't have the control or class to take the high ground and of course kicking him was completely out of order. Roach, Ariza & that little Mexican guy come out looking bad but Garcia & Rios come out of that little clip looking good i think.

I don't think Freddie is worried just rich now and worshipped like a god in the Philippines so is probably understandably a bit up himself. Rios is absolutely made for Manny it will be all about the movement and Rios being a step behind all the way. There's been no sign of Pacquiaio's legs or stamina failing which i think is what it would take for Rios to have a shot.

Shirow wrote:Freddie started it and Ariza being a bit of a dick didn't have the control or class to take the high ground and of course kicking him was completely out of order. Roach, Ariza & that little Mexican guy come out looking bad but Garcia & Rios come out of that little clip looking good i think.

I don't think Freddie is worried just rich now and worshipped like a god in the Philippines so is probably understandably a bit up himself. Rios is absolutely made for Manny it will be all about the movement and Rios being a step behind all the way. There's been no sign of Pacquiaio's legs or stamina failing which i think is what it would take for Rios to have a shot.

Great evaluation of the handbags ands how the fight will pan out. I agree

Ariza comes across as a bit bitter and is seems to rub a lot of people up the wrong way. There's no smoke without fire.

Most people like that tend to disappear after a while. Never do anything major in the sport just make up stories to tell people in shops about world title fights and stuff.

DMA1987 wrote:Ariza is a wanker.

That sums it up IMO

Alex Ariza is a nob. I very rarely tweet anyone but I'm going to send him a tweet now telling him so. Happy to knock him out! Manny will ruin Rios now.

Not seen the video but is the worst he said "fornicating Jew" and "stupid Mexican"?

Are either of them even racist? If someone called me a stupid fornicating Brit I'd be more offended by them calling me stupid than British...

I heard him say 'Mexican motherf*cker', some ppl are saying he called Ellie Seckbach a 'f*cking Jew' as well, but I didn't hear that in either video

J-C wrote:I heard him say 'Mexican motherf*cker', some ppl are saying he called Ellie Seckbach a 'f*cking Jew' as well, but I didn't hear that in either video

I love that Sechbach ramps it up by including 'racist' in the video title. Not cool.