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Groves was miles better than him, was covering up and should not have been stopped. The ref = a stupid, stupid man!

British Boxing is a joke, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Groove Armada wrote:GROVES OUTCLASSED HIM!!!!!!!

And lost.

The worst stoppage of the year, I think.

Groove Armada wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Groove Armada wrote:GROVES OUTCLASSED HIM!!!!!!!

And lost.

HE BUSTED UP THE MASSIVE INTERNATIONAL CONK!

And lost.

knurak wrote:The worst stoppage of the year, I think.

Worst that I can remember this year.

knurak wrote:The worst stoppage of the year, I think.

Ian John Lewis will be relieved.

Not sure about that. Froch was going to stop him.

rapid2 wrote:Not sure about that. Froch was going to stop him.

Thanks to crappy officiating we will never know.

Freedom wrote:

rapid2 wrote:Not sure about that. Froch was going to stop him.

Thanks to crappy officiating we will never know.

Totally agree, was very premature! BUT believe that Froch WAS gonna stop him anyway.
However Groves was absolutely awesome, and the shots Froch took would of stopped pretty much every other super middleweight on the planet.
Again was very UN-impressed by the commentary! very biased towards Groves, although he was definetely on top before the stoppage, it was closer than they had it.
Pretty poor show by the fans in booing Froch, he didnt deserve that. Understand their dissapointment at the stoppage and their appreciation of Groves though.
I suppose we can look forward to the rematch if Froch doesnt call it a day

mcbrando wrote:

Freedom wrote:

rapid2 wrote:Not sure about that. Froch was going to stop him.

Thanks to crappy officiating we will never know.

Totally agree, was very premature! BUT believe that Froch WAS gonna stop him anyway.
However Groves was absolutely awesome, and the shots Froch took would of stopped pretty much every other super middleweight on the planet.
Again was very UN-impressed by the commentary! very biased towards Groves, although he was definetely on top before the stoppage, it was closer than they had it.
Pretty poor show by the fans in booing Froch, he didnt deserve that. Understand their dissapointment at the stoppage and their appreciation of Groves though.
I suppose we can look forward to the rematch if Froch doesnt call it a day

How did they have it? I thought Froch won only 2 rounds.

Groves looked so much stronger and quicker. A bit vulnerable but then he's only 25 and this was a big stepup.

Really interested to see if Groves can improve from this and how much. More discipline and toughening up from experience and I'd back him to beat everyone in the division bar Ward, and that would be a good fight down the line.

Two of the judges cards were a disgrace.

Bad stoppage but i think froch was getting on top of him and would have got the stoppage it was truning into froch's fight and the way he likes to fight once groves slowed down. But huge respect to groves my jaw nearly hit the flaw in the 1st round he is clearly world class im just wondering if that style would be better against ward than froch? Froch gets stronger as he goes he likes a war, but no one has got in the ring and managed to out box ward. Does ward get stronger if he is put on his arse and outboxed for 6 rounds? Not sure no ones done it yet, but if you can woble froch like that you can buzz anyone.

I wouldnt rule out that groves could have come back but i think froch was starting to jump on him and i think froch would have stopped him there or on the next assault. What groves said in the post fight interview was right - froch got the benifit of the doubt when he was hurt because hes a warrior, groves is seen as chinny so was pulled out early.

Stoppages like that arent fair on anyone because froch would have got a lot of respect for that comeback if it was a fair stoppage and also groves maybe could have come back.

My only comment in defense of foster is at the point he put his arms round groves, groves dropped his hands round his knees for a couple of seconds maybe he saw something we didnt, he is a very good ref on the whole.

True

Finn wrote:Bad stoppage but i think froch was getting on top of him and would have got the stoppage it was truning into froch's fight and the way he likes to fight once groves slowed down. But huge respect to groves my jaw nearly hit the flaw in the 1st round he is clearly world class im just wondering if that style would be better against ward than froch? Froch gets stronger as he goes he likes a war no one has got in the ring and managed to out pox ward.

I wouldnt rule out that groves could have come back but i think froch was starting to jump on him and i think froch would have stopped him there or on the next assault. What groves said in the post fight interview was right - froch got the benifit of the doubt when he was hurt because hes a warrior, groves is seen as chinny so was pulled out early.

Stoppages like that arent fair on anyone because froch would have got a lot of respect for that comeback if it was a fair stoppage and also groves maybe could have come back.

My only comment in defense of foster is at the point he put his arms round groves, groves dropped his hands round his knees for a couple of seconds maybe he saw something we didnt.

Summed it up perfectly.

dbf wrote:Two of the judges cards were a disgrace.

well spotted, my boy could call a fight better and noticably better.

Freedom wrote:

rapid2 wrote:Not sure about that. Froch was going to stop him.

Thanks to crappy officiating we will never know.

I agree with this. Well done George Groves.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Finn wrote:Bad stoppage but i think froch was getting on top of him and would have got the stoppage it was truning into froch's fight and the way he likes to fight once groves slowed down. But huge respect to groves my jaw nearly hit the flaw in the 1st round he is clearly world class im just wondering if that style would be better against ward than froch? Froch gets stronger as he goes he likes a war no one has got in the ring and managed to out pox ward.

I wouldnt rule out that groves could have come back but i think froch was starting to jump on him and i think froch would have stopped him there or on the next assault. What groves said in the post fight interview was right - froch got the benifit of the doubt when he was hurt because hes a warrior, groves is seen as chinny so was pulled out early.

Stoppages like that arent fair on anyone because froch would have got a lot of respect for that comeback if it was a fair stoppage and also groves maybe could have come back.

My only comment in defense of foster is at the point he put his arms round groves, groves dropped his hands round his knees for a couple of seconds maybe he saw something we didnt.

Summed it up perfectly.

And I agree with this too.

Totally agree, was very premature! BUT believe that Froch WAS gonna stop him anyway.
However Groves was absolutely awesome, and the shots Froch took would of stopped pretty much every other super middleweight on the planet.
Again was very UN-impressed by the commentary! very biased towards Groves, although he was definetely on top before the stoppage, it was closer than they had it.
Pretty poor show by the fans in booing Froch, he didnt deserve that. Understand their dissapointment at the stoppage and their appreciation of Groves though.
I suppose we can look forward to the rematch if Froch doesnt call it a day[/quote]

How did they have it? I thought Froch won only 2 rounds.[/quote]

They thought Groves won 2 rounds

Truely gutted for George Groves, he was robbed of victory by the ref.

Groves proved me wrong, very very wrong, he was by far the better boxer. He deserves an immediate rematch, for the sake of boxings reputation it has to happen.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Finn wrote:Bad stoppage but i think froch was getting on top of him and would have got the stoppage it was truning into froch's fight and the way he likes to fight once groves slowed down. But huge respect to groves my jaw nearly hit the flaw in the 1st round he is clearly world class im just wondering if that style would be better against ward than froch? Froch gets stronger as he goes he likes a war no one has got in the ring and managed to out pox ward.

I wouldnt rule out that groves could have come back but i think froch was starting to jump on him and i think froch would have stopped him there or on the next assault. What groves said in the post fight interview was right - froch got the benifit of the doubt when he was hurt because hes a warrior, groves is seen as chinny so was pulled out early.

Stoppages like that arent fair on anyone because froch would have got a lot of respect for that comeback if it was a fair stoppage and also groves maybe could have come back.

My only comment in defense of foster is at the point he put his arms round groves, groves dropped his hands round his knees for a couple of seconds maybe he saw something we didnt.

Summed it up perfectly.

We know Froch gets stronger as it goes on. But Groves may have even more gears to go through and should have been given the chance to prove that right or not. I still think Froch looked vulnerable during the 9th. I thought he was vulnerable from start to finish - this shocked me more than anything, including the stoppage.

milpool wrote:

knurak wrote:The worst stoppage of the year, I think.

Ian John Lewis will be relieved.

He's terrible!

clopixolacuphase wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Finn wrote:Bad stoppage but i think froch was getting on top of him and would have got the stoppage it was truning into froch's fight and the way he likes to fight once groves slowed down. But huge respect to groves my jaw nearly hit the flaw in the 1st round he is clearly world class im just wondering if that style would be better against ward than froch? Froch gets stronger as he goes he likes a war no one has got in the ring and managed to out pox ward.

I wouldnt rule out that groves could have come back but i think froch was starting to jump on him and i think froch would have stopped him there or on the next assault. What groves said in the post fight interview was right - froch got the benifit of the doubt when he was hurt because hes a warrior, groves is seen as chinny so was pulled out early.

Stoppages like that arent fair on anyone because froch would have got a lot of respect for that comeback if it was a fair stoppage and also groves maybe could have come back.

My only comment in defense of foster is at the point he put his arms round groves, groves dropped his hands round his knees for a couple of seconds maybe he saw something we didnt.

Summed it up perfectly.

And I agree with this too.

me too

If the ref thought George was in a bit of trouble then give him an eight count or let Carl finish him off. Horrendous stoppage too quick. scorecard was embarrassing too. I had George up by about 5 rounds easy. including the knockdown.