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British World Title hopes
Posted: 25 Nov 2013, 18:44
by WelshJack
Next year we should have a few fighters going for world titles how do you rate their chances?
Paul Butler
Carl Frampton
Brian Rose
Martin Murray
Nathan Cleverly
Derek Chisora
Tyson Fury
Kell Brook
Jamie McDonnell
How do people see them doing? and add anyone else.
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 25 Nov 2013, 20:55
by wrimc
Paul Butler - Looks a good talent one of the best we have had recently at the lower weights however extremely tough division for him to get a world title in hard to see him hanging with Kameda or Narvaez. Tough jump from top end domestic/euro level to World as there is so little talent outside of Asia/Central or Sout America at the lower weights
Carl Frampton - Will get a crack one way or the other and will probably pick up a title Martinez rematch would be nice but will have to see how he fares against Mathebula. I think he has a strong chance of picking up a title next year.
Brian Rose - Tough one really I think its good that he has got himself into the position to fight for a world title. Would never have thought after getting sparked by Maxwell he could make it to these heights just goes to show. I think he will struggle.
Martin Murray - Whilst one of the most promising prospects for a world title I think it will be hard for him to pick one up next year because of both his promotional situation and his visa issues. It means that he will be forced to take fights where he is the away fighter and with odds stacked against him I think it will be hard whether it be against GGG or Chavez the odds wont be in his favour.
Nathan Cleverly - Hard to say how he will far at cruiser I will reserve my judgement until I see a few outings at the weight but its not an easy division to pick up a title in. Think he would struggle with the plethora of European based cruisers that are out there.
Derek Chisora - May get another chance at a big fight but has little chance of winning it. That said he is doing all the right things and he is an entertaining fighter who has a style that just comes short at the top level.
Tyson Fury - Will probably get a big fight this year but at heavy you cant look past the Klitchkos really. Cant see him beating Wlad but would like to see him in with Wilder or Wlad next year its sink or swim time.
Kell Brook - Has a decent chance of getting a world title if he can just get a world title fight! Tough to say I thought he would come up short against Alexander but would just like to see him get a shot. Seems like he has been at this level forever now.
Jamie McDonnell - I dont think hew will regain his world title unfortunately though I hope he does I have a suspicion that the night against Ceja was one of those moments where all the stars aligned. Should get another crack at it if under Hearn but going to be a long road back I feel somehow
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 13:44
by expe
Paul Butler - Looks to bang hard, especially with the left hand and is well supported in Liverpool, so he should be able to get a world title fight at home. Providing he's moved right, which I think he will be, I'd expect him to fight for a world title by the end of 2014, possibly against Narvaez, and win.
Carl Frampton - Almost nailed on to fight for a world title in March/April, Martinez would be perfect, but I think he beats Mathebula as well, as long as he gets inside the jab. Big support in Belfast will guarantee a world title fight at home in a hostile atmosphere for any opponent.
Brian Rose - Tough, game, but limited. Lacks power and that will hurt him at the top level. He's got his world title fight, but I can't see him winning, possibly dropping down afterwards for a fight with Rabchenko.
Martin Murray - Needs to take his time and have a couple of fights at European level, since he skipped it out, unless a Barker fight comes up because I think he outpoints him. Should stay away from Golovkin for now, has already fought Martinez and visa issues make a Quillin fight difficult.
Nathan Cleverly - Just doesn't have the power to compete with the best at cruiserweight, would be better served at Light Heavyweight since he could outwork Hopkins and if Bellew wins a rematch could be big business next year.
Dereck Chisora - Keep defending the European title until Wlad retires, then swoop in for a vacant WBO title fight, gives most heavyweights a tough night and winning a world title after the Klitschko's retire isn't out of the realms of possibility.
Tyson Fury - A fight with Wladimir would be interesting, purely because of his size, but his best hope is the WBC belt that Vitali seems set to vacate, we will know the situation with that on Saturday.
Kell Brook - Can see him coming up just short at the top, if Maidana beats Broner that might be his best opportunity, but really an Alexander fight has to happen after spending the last 18 months heading in that direction.
Jamie McDonnell - Just can't see it happening, unless Hall beats Malinga, but I think his lack of power, he struggled to get Inom, a dwarf, out of there on Saturday, will hamper his chances.
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 13:46
by TopGun
WelshJack wrote:Next year we should have a few fighters going for world titles how do you rate their chances?
Paul Butler - No
Carl Frampton - Yes
Brian Rose - No
Martin Murray - Yes
Nathan Cleverly - Yes
Derek Chisora - No
Tyson Fury - No
Kell Brook - No
Jamie McDonnell - No
How do people see them doing? and add anyone else.
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 13:52
by lefty
TopGun wrote:WelshJack wrote:Next year we should have a few fighters going for world titles how do you rate their chances?
Paul Butler - No
Carl Frampton - Yes
Brian Rose - No
Martin Murray - Yes
Nathan Cleverly - Yes
Derek Chisora - No
Tyson Fury - No
Kell Brook - No
Jamie McDonnell - No
How do people see them doing? and add anyone else.
I'm not gonna lie. I dont really follow the division Butler is in so it's near on impossible for me to gauge. He looks good though
Frampton-Yes
Rose-No
Murray-yes *if against Barker*
Cleverly- cant tell without seeing him at the weight
Chisora-no
Brook- I really dont know. As much as I criticise Brook on here I do really rate him as a boxer. Very good counter puncher with good power. I dont particularily rate Alexander that highly either to be honest. I'l sit on the fence on that one
Mcdonnell- if he gets a shot at his old belt then a definite yes as he's better than the guys who are going to be competing for it.
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 26 Nov 2013, 14:09
by WelshJack
Agree with all of you although I see Butler as a quality fighter, I don't keep up with his weight to know how good he is compared, but I think Chisora will become world champion especially with Haye and the Klitschko's gone or soon to be.
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 17:16
by Roman7
Murray is fighting and winning a world title in feb - fact
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 17:49
by expe
Rainford massive wrote:Murray is fighting and winning a world title in feb - fact
Which title is that since it won't be Barker, Martinez or Quillin and I thought he wasn't fighting Golovkin?
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 18:25
by digzee
expe wrote:Rainford massive wrote:Murray is fighting and winning a world title in feb - fact
Which title is that since it won't be Barker, Martinez or Quillin and I thought he wasn't fighting Golovkin?
WBA, GGG is super champ now, Murray is fighting for the regular title
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 18:35
by digzee
Add James DeGale to that list, he might get a shot at Bika late next year or whoever the WBC champ maybe
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 18:36
by jackukmma
I will throw Lee Selby in there. Last 12 months will have done him the world of good and he thrives on a challenge. Providing he gets the shot at the right time I'd back him to win one.
I'm still sceptical Mayweather-Khan happens. Depending on who Khan goes after I'd fancy him to beat Broner.
James DeGale would beat Bika aswell but his promotional team need to sort there sh1t out.
Wouldn't be suprised if Crolla does aswell. Underrated as a boxer and has come on leaps and bounds, woukd need to go down the right route but it's not impossible
Re: British World Title hopes
Posted: 28 Nov 2013, 14:45
by expe
digzee wrote:expe wrote:Rainford massive wrote:Murray is fighting and winning a world title in feb - fact
Which title is that since it won't be Barker, Martinez or Quillin and I thought he wasn't fighting Golovkin?
WBA, GGG is super champ now, Murray is fighting for the regular title
Well he won't be world champion then.