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Like Haye or hate him. Being the only man to stop Delboy looks pretty impressive, especially as Chisora is winning again.

Del Boy didn't look great at the weekend but I was actually thinking the same thing. Haye was top draw, shame about his injuries/attitude at times. Mormeck was the highlight for me, great comeback away from home!

danamba7 wrote:Del Boy didn't look great at the weekend but I was actually thinking the same thing. Haye was top draw, shame about his injuries/attitude at times. Mormeck was the highlight for me, great comeback away from home!

I agree mate. The heavyweight division is tougher than ever for smaller heavyweights, with two dominant, athletic big men at the top.

Del still isn't all that.

mickey1975 wrote:Del still isn't all that.

I agree 100% mate. He was flattered by fighting two guys with injuries (Helenius and Klitschko)

keithmoonhangover wrote:I agree 100% mate. He was flattered by fighting two guys with injuries (Helenius and Klitschko)

Meh... typical for someone who doesn't KO someone or perform as well as they were expected to blame it on an injury. I recall both Helenius and Klitschko throwing left and right hands throughout the 12 rounds of each fight.

Klitschko also reckons that Pele Reid KOed him by a kick to the leg rather than knocking him out cold with a kick to the head. Plus he reckons he didn't realise he was being administered banned drugs when he got banned from the 1996 Olympics.

Benelio wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I agree 100% mate. He was flattered by fighting two guys with injuries (Helenius and Klitschko)

Meh... typical for someone who doesn't KO someone or perform as well as they were expected to blame it on an injury. I recall both Helenius and Klitschko throwing left and right hands throughout the 12 rounds of each fight.

Klitschko also reckons that Pele Reid KOed him by a kick to the leg rather than knocking him out cold with a kick to the head. Plus he reckons he didn't realise he was being administered banned drugs when he got banned from the 1996 Olympics.

OK, you know better than the fighters. Yeah, right.

mickey1975 wrote:Del still isn't all that.

Yup he looked very one dimensional last week and he doesn't have great power.
Haye is a league above but Chisora is limited.

Haye has always been a top 3 heavyweight IMO. The only guys id put above him are the Klit brothers but even then id fancy him to knock out Vitali now! If his shoulder wasnt shot to shit obviously.

columbo wrote:Haye has always been a top 3 heavyweight IMO. The only guys id put above him are the Klit brothers but even then id fancy him to knock out Vitali now! If his shoulder wasnt shot to poo obviously.

You never cease to amaze me

keithmoonhangover wrote:Like Haye or hate him. Being the only man to stop Delboy looks pretty impressive, especially as Chisora is winning again.

David Haye is just far better than Chisora.

Haye is fast, powerful & aggressive (when he wants to be) & any such fighter would take out Chisora, especially Chisora of a couple of years ago who regularly carried 25lb of blubber into the ring.

I'm not Hayes biggest fan but that was a grand slam finish !! Haye took him out like knowbody has or could. Since then he has improved & did have problems before the fight but he don't make excuses Del Boy & I respect him for that.
His last two fights he has been wobbled visibly so maybe the hayemakers shatterd his resistance abit

keithmoonhangover wrote:

danamba7 wrote:Del Boy didn't look great at the weekend but I was actually thinking the same thing. Haye was top draw, shame about his injuries/attitude at times. Mormeck was the highlight for me, great comeback away from home!

I agree mate. The heavyweight division is tougher than ever for smaller heavyweights, with two dominant, athletic big men at the top.

Vitali hasn't fought in over a year and has looked about as athletic as a table and 4 chairs in his last 5-6 fights.

palooka wrote:

columbo wrote:Haye has always been a top 3 heavyweight IMO. The only guys id put above him are the Klit brothers but even then id fancy him to knock out Vitali now! If his shoulder wasnt shot to poo obviously.

You never cease to amaze me

lol what?

Karl Jade wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

danamba7 wrote:Del Boy didn't look great at the weekend but I was actually thinking the same thing. Haye was top draw, shame about his injuries/attitude at times. Mormeck was the highlight for me, great comeback away from home!

I agree mate. The heavyweight division is tougher than ever for smaller heavyweights, with two dominant, athletic big men at the top.

Vitali hasn't fought in over a year and has looked about as athletic as a table and 4 chairs in his last 5-6 fights.

Yes, but he keeps winning.

realistcally

Haye SMASHES any boxer not named klitschko

The likes of Arreola, Povetkin, Pulev, Wilder, Tarver, Rioz Junior and everyone else at Boxrec 25. As high as these americans are hypes such as jennings, wilder, arreola, on the night Haye is too powerful and TOO TOO fast for these lot.

Haye is super talents, and although he gets on my nervous, when it come to the crunch, i would bet against him no way.

Its a damn shame though he wasnt an active fighter at heavyweight.

cold187 wrote:realistcally

Haye SMASHES any boxer not named klitschko

The likes of Arreola, Povetkin, Pulev, Wilder, Tarver, Rioz Junior and everyone else at Boxrec 25. As high as these americans are hypes such as jennings, wilder, arreola, on the night Haye is too powerful and TOO TOO fast for these lot.

Haye is super talents, and although he gets on my nervous, when it come to the crunch, i would bet against him no way.

Its a damn shame though he wasnt an active fighter at heavyweight.

I agree with most of that. Thankfully, you saw sense and didn't include Fury in all that

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Benelio wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I agree 100% mate. He was flattered by fighting two guys with injuries (Helenius and Klitschko)

Meh... typical for someone who doesn't KO someone or perform as well as they were expected to blame it on an injury. I recall both Helenius and Klitschko throwing left and right hands throughout the 12 rounds of each fight.

Klitschko also reckons that Pele Reid KOed him by a kick to the leg rather than knocking him out cold with a kick to the head. Plus he reckons he didn't realise he was being administered banned drugs when he got banned from the 1996 Olympics.

OK, you know better than the fighters. Yeah, right.

It's not about 'knowing better' than them. It's about fighters coming up with excuses for poor performances. For example, 99.9% of fans don't 'know better' than David Haye, but were well within their rights to be skeptical of his toe excuse after the Wlad fight.

Benelio wrote:It's not about 'knowing better' than them. It's about fighters coming up with excuses for poor performances. For example, 99.9% of fans don't 'know better' than David Haye, but were well within their rights to be skeptical of his toe excuse after the Wlad fight.

would you rather fight with or without a broken?

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Benelio wrote:It's not about 'knowing better' than them. It's about fighters coming up with excuses for poor performances. For example, 99.9% of fans don't 'know better' than David Haye, but were well within their rights to be skeptical of his toe excuse after the Wlad fight.

would you rather fight with or without a broken?

If I may interject, we're getting away from the crux of Benelio's important point, which is that Vitali has always been a drug-cheating lying whiny cunt.

I've always thought that needs to be reiterated about twelve times a thread just so the Bros.' PR machine actually has to do some work to convince the world that they are the kindly generous noble brave lovely polite kind Klitschenko Wonder Brothers.

I make no apologies for liking Del Boy. He is good at playing the heel and is a bit of a nut.

But in pure ability terms, comparing him to David Haye is like comparing a Ford Transit van to a Ferrari.

One is a durable workhorse that generally doesn't seem to budge, the other is a fast, slick and dynamic supercar that breaks down a lot.

Even Ferraris lose to German engineering once in a while however. But a factory supercharged M5 will never be as exciting.

G0mez wrote:I make no apologies for liking Del Boy. He is good at playing the heel and is a bit of a nut.

But in pure ability terms, comparing him to David Haye is like comparing a Ford Transit van to a Ferrari.

One is a durable workhorse that generally doesn't seem to budge, the other is a fast, slick and dynamic supercar that breaks down a lot.

Even Ferraris lose to German engineering once in a while however. But a factory supercharged M5 will never be as exciting.

I like that! A 3 way metaphor

G0mez wrote:But in pure ability terms, comparing him to David Haye is like comparing a Ford Transit van to a Ferrari.

One is a durable workhorse that generally doesn't seem to budge, the other is a fast, slick and dynamic supercar that breaks down a lot.

Even Ferraris lose to German engineering once in a while however. But a factory supercharged M5 will never be as exciting.

yes but chisora is a transit not an m5 he really is very limited and his work utterly predictable and lacking in variety.

rm1 wrote:

G0mez wrote:But in pure ability terms, comparing him to David Haye is like comparing a Ford Transit van to a Ferrari.

One is a durable workhorse that generally doesn't seem to budge, the other is a fast, slick and dynamic supercar that breaks down a lot.

Even Ferraris lose to German engineering once in a while however. But a factory supercharged M5 will never be as exciting.

yes but chisora is a transit not an m5 he really is very limited and his work utterly predictable and lacking in variety.

Without wishing to speak for Gomez mate one would assume his reference to the BMW was to the German-domiciled & trained Klitschenko Brothers. You can tell 'cos one of them beat the Ferrari (Haye) & the Transit (Chisora) didn't.

I'm here all week if you need any more help, like.

G0mez wrote:I make no apologies for liking Del Boy. He is good at playing the heel and is a bit of a nut.

But in pure ability terms, comparing him to David Haye is like comparing a Ford Transit van to a Ferrari.

One is a durable workhorse that generally doesn't seem to budge, the other is a fast, slick and dynamic supercar that breaks down a lot.

Even Ferraris lose to German engineering once in a while however. But a factory supercharged M5 will never be as exciting.

I make no apologies for not liking Delboy. I've got no time for the woman beating, policeman assaulting scumbag.