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International superstar??
Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 14:07
by hurlock
Where does froch claiming to be a international star stem from???
I know groves was saying it & now it's gone viral !!!!
To me groves is a complete dick, he can speak really well & come across as a nice kid, but people don't pick up on his ways. He turnt pro & then starts producing his own merchandise like some international star with the st George tee's . He's made plenty of YouTube stuff calling out & criticising other pro's then he claims he is not disrespectfull. Not to mention saying a 3 time world champion who's just stopped him only options are face him or retire??? He's living in la,la land!!! The dark lord has created an egomania!
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 14:15
by banjo
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 14:22
by hurlock
I need to take this post down then ha!
They are both from the same mold then!
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 15:11
by BLASTER100
George Groves is a very popular fighter.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 17:20
by Kilburn
I remember Groves after the Degale fight claiming "I'm a pay per view fighter now".
Not quite George.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 17:26
by mickey1975
Kilburn wrote:I remember Groves after the Degale fight claiming "I'm a pay per view fighter now".
Not quite George.
Well he has been on it twice since...
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 17:34
by Kilburn
You think he will be next time if he's not fighting Froch?
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 17:37
by mickey1975
Kilburn wrote:You think he will be next time if he's not fighting Froch?
No, I was been sarcastic. I don't think Froch will be if he's not fighting Groves, either.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 17:42
by Kilburn
If that's the case then Froch can blame Howard Foster for that. Together with a lack of big name alternatives besides a futile return with Ward.
Not that I'm supporting the PPV concept.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 03 Dec 2013, 19:19
by keithmoonhangover
I'd pay for Froch versus Chavez Jnr, Stevenson, GGG, Oosthuizen or Groves. I might buy a fight vs Degale, but hell would freeze over before I'd pay to watch Hopkins fight, he's duller than the paint work and ten year old car.
In fairness to the International Star comment. He's one of two names Adonis Stephenson called out, so he must be doing well.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 11:17
by TJ77
keithmoonhangover wrote:I'd pay for Froch versus Chavez Jnr, Stevenson, GGG, Oosthuizen or Groves. I might buy a fight vs Degale, but hell would freeze over before I'd pay to watch Hopkins fight, he's duller than the paint work and ten year old car.
In fairness to the International Star comment. He's one of two names Adonis Stephenson called out, so he must be doing well.
He has belts that will get you called out.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 11:29
by mickey1975
TJ77 wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:I'd pay for Froch versus Chavez Jnr, Stevenson, GGG, Oosthuizen or Groves. I might buy a fight vs Degale, but hell would freeze over before I'd pay to watch Hopkins fight, he's duller than the paint work and ten year old car.
In fairness to the International Star comment. He's one of two names Adonis Stephenson called out, so he must be doing well.
He has belts that will get you called out.
I think its more to do with him beating Bute that has made him well known in Canada.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 11:58
by keithmoonhangover
mickey1975 wrote:TJ77 wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:I'd pay for Froch versus Chavez Jnr, Stevenson, GGG, Oosthuizen or Groves. I might buy a fight vs Degale, but hell would freeze over before I'd pay to watch Hopkins fight, he's duller than the paint work and ten year old car.
In fairness to the International Star comment. He's one of two names Adonis Stephenson called out, so he must be doing well.
He has belts that will get you called out.
I think its more to do with him beating Bute that has made him well known in Canada.
international means more than one nation. hmmm.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 12:01
by palooka
international means more than one nation. hmmm.[/quote]
Gavin Rees is well known in Wales and England but doesn't put it about that he's an international star.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 12:08
by hurlock
The super six was global & ward is the USA poster boy Olympic gold medalist they cling dearly to. Plus he defeated an unbeaten pascal who went on to blast his way through 12-7 & become a name fighter & then ruin bute who was highly rated & known through out .
Hopkins knows froch & has mentioned him several times same as ward & Adonis. Carl froch is world renowned
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 13:01
by palooka
hurlock wrote:The super six was global & ward is the USA poster boy Olympic gold medalist they cling dearly to. Plus he defeated an unbeaten pascal who went on to blast his way through 12-7 & become a name fighter & then ruin bute who was highly rated & known through out .
Hopkins knows froch & has mentioned him several times same as ward & Adonis. Carl froch is world renowned
You mean other world championship title holders know him? That's not the same as being world renowned and even further from being an international superstar. It's not surprising that other class boxers know him and mention him in the hope of making good money in the UK; he'll not be endorsing aftershave in Mexico or golf clubs in Malibu will he? That's what a superstar does - Mayweather is a superstar, Manny is a superstar, Canelo (even after losing widely) is a superstar, Cotto is just under that level but way ahead of Froch, who is a good champion but not best in his division and the recipient of a highly contentious stoppage and a highly inflated view of himself.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 13:10
by hurlock
Froch don't know how to articulate himself as groves has pointed out. I guess he means in boxing terms he is a known & respected commodity in the fight game& fighters don't call out people for peanuts.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 13:50
by Superheavy
palooka wrote:international means more than one nation. hmmm.
Gavin Rees is well known in Wales and England but doesn't put it about that he's an international star.[/quote]
He should!
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 15:25
by keithmoonhangover
palooka wrote:international means more than one nation. hmmm.
Gavin Rees is well known in Wales and England but doesn't put it about that he's an international star.[/quote]
Your dislike of Froch is getting the better of you mate. Froch is a player on the world stage, no question. His stoppage of Taylor got him a lot of attention. He's beaten Pascal and Bute and is on the radar for fighters in the states and Canada. He's Britian's #1 rated boxer, like him or not.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 15:46
by palooka
keithmoonhangover wrote:palooka wrote:international means more than one nation. hmmm.
Gavin Rees is well known in Wales and England but doesn't put it about that he's an international star.
Your dislike of Froch is getting the better of you mate. Froch is a player on the world stage, no question. His stoppage of Taylor got him a lot of attention. He's beaten Pascal and Bute and is on the radar for fighters in the states and Canada. He's Britian's #1 rated boxer, like him or not.[/quote]
The person who quoted me ballsed up the quotes; I don't dislike Froch, I do not know him personally - only through his media presence and pronouncements some of which are silly and bizarre, I've no issue with his resume and agree he is the British No 1; he is not an International Superstar though and his last win was a contentious stoppage
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 15:50
by keithmoonhangover
palooka wrote:The person who quoted me ballsed up the quotes; I don't dislike Froch, I do not know him personally - only through his media presence and pronouncements some of which are silly and bizarre, I've no issue with his resume and agree he is the British No 1; he is not an International Superstar though and his last win was a contentious stoppage
I'm not sure about the Super bit, but he's defo an International Star.
Re: International superstar??
Posted: 04 Dec 2013, 19:04
by chad
The irony is Froch is probably more well known outside the UK than he is within.
When the Super Six kicked off there was no UK TV deal. The tournament was televised pretty much world wide. Most of his early fights where either on PPV internet stream or on PPV TV channel Primetime Live. Whilst the die hard boxing fans knew where to go to watch him, most casual fans had no idea the tournament was taking place until SKY stepped in towards the end.