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Re: James J. Jeffries 'The Boilermaker 1906'
Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 10:56
by HomicideHenry
When the title shifted into Burns's hands, it is ironic that one of his first title defense opponents (Bill Squire) originally challenged Jeffries to come out of retirement as the worldwide view was that Jeffries was still the true champion of them world. When Jeff laughed in Squires face, the Australian then headed after Burns. Jeff did show up to the fight though, as the referee and dwarfed both Squires and Burns and most the members of the crowd.
Re: James J. Jeffries 'The Boilermaker 1906'
Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 20:14
by keithmoonhangover
Jack Johnson would have beaten Jeffries at any point of Jim's career.
Re: James J. Jeffries 'The Boilermaker 1906'
Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 20:34
by keithmoonhangover
Il Duce wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Jack Johnson would have beaten Jeffries at any point of Jim's career.
Not So Fast
Most underestimate 'James J. Jeffries' improved boxing skills after his first bouts with Robert Fitzsimmons
and James Corbett.
From 1902 thru 1904, Jack Johnson ain't running 'The Boilermaker' thru any old Alfalfa Mill.
Johnson was a defensive master and also threw great combinations. Jeffries was slow and predictable.
Re: James J. Jeffries 'The Boilermaker 1906'
Posted: 07 Dec 2013, 15:08
by keithmoonhangover
Il Duce wrote:December 18, 1906
'PROMOTER TEX RICKARD OFFERS JAMES J. JEFFRIES $30,000 FOR RETURN'
Planned Event for Goldfield, Nevada - sometime in 1907.
Fight Promoter Tex Rickard has offered James J. Jeffries $30,000 to fight both Tommy Burns
and Philadelphia Jack O'Brien on the 'same day'.
The Promoter has come up with an interesting setting. Since Jeffries is still by far the best
Heavyweight in the World {despite his announced retirement in May 1905}.
Tex Rickard has come up with a venue where Jeffries would fight #1 Challenger Jack O'Brien in the
Afternoon. Then challenge 'in name only' Champion - Tommy Burns in the Evening.
Rickard has said that he has put up $50,000 - to be split anyway that the fighters agree. I figure
Jeffries to receive $30,000 - Jack O'Brien $8000 and Tommy Burns $12,000.
Rickard added, that this is the only way that Tommy Burns would have a chance against Jeffries.
The battle with Jack O'Brien might wear Jeffries down, and give the much smaller Champion a fighting
chance.
CTRL C, CTRL V.
Re: James J. Jeffries 'The Boilermaker 1906'
Posted: 08 Dec 2013, 13:30
by keithmoonhangover
Il Duce wrote:James J. Jeffries - 'Diary 1906'
* January 2........... Offered $20,000 to fight Jack Root
* February 23........ Tommy Burns defeats Marvin Hart for the Heavyweight Championship
* March 24............ Issued challenge by Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, offered $25,000
* April 6................ Offered $50,000 to challenge 'new' Champion - Tommy Burns
* April 12.............. Offered $120,000 to fight a series of '6' bouts with Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
* April 13.............. 'Jeffries Will Not Fight Soon'
* May 10............... Issued challenge by Jack Johnson, offered $50,000
* July 4................. Jeffries boxes 4-Round Exhibition with Max Schulken in Golden Gate Park at the San Francisco Car Carnival
* September 19..... Issued challenge by Major Roderick MacKenzie, offered $40,000 for '2' bouts
* September 25..... 'Praised As The Greatest Heavyweight Champion That Has Ever Lived' - Gentleman Jim Corbett
* September 27..... 'Jeffries May Return' - Will possibly fight the winner of the Philadelphia Jack O'Brien - Sam Berger rematch
* November 28...... Referee for the Tommy Burns - Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 'Championship Bout'
* December 18...... Offered $50,000 to fight both Champion - Tommy Burns and #1 Challenger- Philadelphia Jack O'Brien on the same night
* December 19...... Offered $50,000 to fight Jack Johnson
* December 19...... 'Jeffries Will Come Back For One-Bout Only, Against Jack Johnson on July 4, 1907'
* December 19...... Issued another challenge by 'The Celtic Giant' - Major Roderick MacKenzie
* December 29...... Agrees to a bout with Bill Squires to be held in Rhyolite, Nevada in April 1907, with offered purse of $30,000
* July 4, 1910...... Get the shit beaten out of him by a black dude.
Re: James J. Jeffries 'The Boilermaker 1906'
Posted: 08 Dec 2013, 13:53
by keithmoonhangover
Il Duce wrote:That's nothing 'Moonie'.
No, it's something. A defeat. Prime Johnson smashes prime Jeffries.
Re: James J. Jeffries 'The Boilermaker 1906'
Posted: 08 Dec 2013, 14:21
by keithmoonhangover
Il Duce wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Il Duce wrote:That's nothing 'Moonie'.
No, it's something. A defeat. Prime Johnson smashes prime Jeffries.
And how do you know that without ever seeing either of these gents in person.
How do you base your conclusion................
The same conclusion you use to say Dempsey beats Ali.