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George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 05 Dec 2013, 20:07
by yancey
he saw a supposed friend cheering for Ali.

Any hunches on the identity of the friend?

Re: George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 05 Dec 2013, 23:42
by BoxBuzz
Probably a damned musician.

Re: George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 00:10
by yancey
I watched the fight recently for the first time in years.

That was some strange scene. Wasn't it fought at 4 AM or some absurdity like that?

Got a kick out of Bundini Brown giving George the voodoo stare before the fight. George evidently was playing his own games by taking forever to enter the ring.

Foreman's people should have put that thing in the Houston Astrodome. Things would have been more normal and George would have felt more at home.

Re: George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 00:37
by gilgamesh
yancey wrote:I watched the fight recently for the first time in years.

That was some strange scene. Wasn't it fought at 4 AM or some absurdity like that?

Got a kick out of Bundini Brown giving George the voodoo stare before the fight. George evidently was playing his own games by taking forever to enter the ring.

Foreman's people should have put that thing in the Houston Astrodome. Things would have been more normal and George would have felt more at home.
He would've lost just the same no matter where they fought, but I definitely agree he would've felt more comfortable with the situation. Foreman's title fights were all in Foreign Countries in his 1970's title reign for some reason.

Beating Frazier in Jamaica, defending against Ken Norton in Venezuela, Joe Roman in Tokyo and of course Ali in Zaire.

Re: George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 05:39
by Syntax Error
Is poor George still looking for excuses almost 40 years later?

He lost because he fought stupidly against a superior opponent.

When you do that in boxing, you almost always lose.

To be fair to George though, the entire world's sentiment would probably have gone towards Ali during that contest.

Even Joe Frazier started referring to Ali as "my man" whilst stating that he felt George wasn't going to make it.

Re: George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 11:39
by raylawpc
Syntax Error wrote:To be fair to George though, the entire world's sentiment would probably have gone towards Ali during that contest.
Whole world minus one. I was hoping Foreman would knock old loudmouth on his a**. But he fought and trained stupidly for that fight.

Re: George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 17:55
by keithmoonhangover
On a side note, Hunter S Thompson was convinced Ali was going to get badly injured or killed, so he spent the whole fight in the pool at the hotel in Zaire. When he found out he'd missed perhaps Ali's greatest triumphs, he had a bit of a breakdown and never wrote as well again.

Re: George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 18:12
by gilgamesh
keithmoonhangover wrote:On a side note, Hunter S Thompson was convinced Ali was going to get badly injured or killed, so he spent the whole fight in the pool at the hotel in Zaire. When he found out he'd missed perhaps Ali's greatest triumphs, he had a bit of a breakdown and never wrote as well again.
Interesting, I've never heard that story. I'm quite a fan of the legend of Hunter S. Thompson...though I'm not all that familiar with his writing. I do intend to read a lot of his work at some point.

That would be pretty sh*tty to travel all the way to Zaire to cover the fight I'm assuming and then just not watch it.

Re: George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 18:17
by keithmoonhangover
gilgamesh wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:On a side note, Hunter S Thompson was convinced Ali was going to get badly injured or killed, so he spent the whole fight in the pool at the hotel in Zaire. When he found out he'd missed perhaps Ali's greatest triumphs, he had a bit of a breakdown and never wrote as well again.
Interesting, I've never heard that story. I'm quite a fan of the legend of Hunter S. Thompson...though I'm not all that familiar with his writing. I do intend to read a lot of his work at some point.

That would be pretty sh*tty to travel all the way to Zaire to cover the fight I'm assuming and then just not watch it.
His writing is fab, if it's your thing. There's is a great documentary out there narrated by Johnny Depp, which is well worth checking out.

Re: George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 18:18
by gilgamesh
keithmoonhangover wrote:
His writing is fab, if it's your thing. There's is a great documentary out there narrated by Johnny Depp, which is well worth checking out.
I've seen a few Doc's about Hunter. Don't remember if Johnny narrated one of them or not. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is one of my favorite movies, and I definitely intend to read the book one of these days, as well as his other books from around the time period.

Re: George Foreman said he lost heart during the Ali fight when

Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 18:31
by keithmoonhangover
gilgamesh wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
His writing is fab, if it's your thing. There's is a great documentary out there narrated by Johnny Depp, which is well worth checking out.
I've seen a few Doc's about Hunter. Don't remember if Johnny narrated one of them or not. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas is one of my favorite movies, and I definitely intend to read the book one of these days, as well as his other books from around the time period.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479468/?re ... lmg_slf_74

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