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Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 09 Dec 2013, 13:45
by Vladimir5555
Who takes it?

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 09 Dec 2013, 14:13
by gilgamesh
Lennox Lewis...in a one sided fight. Probably stops Quarry around the 7th or 8th round.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 09 Dec 2013, 15:58
by dempseyfire
Lewis would be buzzed a few times but use his reach and strength to win a clear decision.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 09 Dec 2013, 16:10
by drunkenpiper36
Mismatch. Lewis dispatches him early and with little or no difficulty.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 03:23
by Vladimir5555
Lewis TKO 6

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 08:03
by Syntax Error
Lewis takes this pretty easily, either by lopsided decision, or late TKO.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 22:54
by DaveK
Lewis whips him with little difficulty. Stops him before getting a chance to decision him.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 23:54
by dempseyfire
Lewis would win, but those saying it's a one sided early night are off-base. Quarry was much better than Tucker, Mavoric, or Tua . .all who went the distance with him. And Quarry's proneness to cuts gets over-stated.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 05:12
by Ezzard
Easy to imagine Quarry being ahead when stopped...or going the distance...

Quarry at his peak would arguably be the best version of a fighter Lennox faced.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 08:56
by evrenb
If size is a big factor consider Lewis vs Ocasio...consider Quarry vs Lyle and Shavers

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 15:16
by Crease
Lewis is the big favourite, I wouldn't bet against him... But if Lennox has an "off" night (ala Rahman) then you knows what could happen?

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 15:25
by drunkenpiper36
Crease wrote:Lewis is the big favourite, I wouldn't bet against him... But if Lennox has an "off" night (ala Rahman) then you knows what could happen?
I wouldn't give Quarry much of a puncher's chance. He didn't have the kind of power that Rahman or McCall had, and Lewis wasn't prime for the Rahman fight anyway. I suppose there is some truth to the adage that any heavyweight can knockout any heavyweight, but its hardly something to bank on in this case

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 15:28
by BoxBuzz
George Foreman recognized that Jerry would be a difficult opponent for him. And though I think he would be a difficult opponent for George or Lennox, I would not place my money on Jerry Quarry on either of those hypotheticals.

Smart Money is on Lewis. I would just hold on to mine...and place no wager.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 17:28
by dempseyfire
drunkenpiper36 wrote:
Crease wrote:Lewis is the big favourite, I wouldn't bet against him... But if Lennox has an "off" night (ala Rahman) then you knows what could happen?
I wouldn't give Quarry much of a puncher's chance. He didn't have the kind of power that Rahman or McCall had, and Lewis wasn't prime for the Rahman fight anyway. I suppose there is some truth to the adage that any heavyweight can knockout any heavyweight, but its hardly something to bank on in this case
Quarry had one punch KO power in his left hook, which he also threw with excellent speed and snap (turning his body perfectly to maximize torque). I certainly rank his power over that of slow as a snail Rahman's

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 19:36
by SenorPipino
Lennox had too much size and reach for Quarry, who would still give a gutsy effort.

Quarry would never quit trying but after sampling a few too many right hand bombs from Lewis that leaves him reeling, Quarry's saved by the referee around the 9th round.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 15:21
by yiddle
Quarry would be as super humanly brave as always but Lewis would inflict a beating , lewis by stoppage

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 18:56
by Goldust
I think that people tend to vastly over rate Lewis and under rate Quarry. That being said, if Quarry can't get close he can't possibly win if Lewis is able to consistently keep him out at long range.

Lewis' offense was very predictable and one dimensional, I figure that if a stiff like Mavrovic could last out all 12 rounds with Lewis then Quarry could too. Quarry would be giving up a considerable amount of height and reach and did better against punchers that came to him (besides Joe Frazier). Lewis, despite his size and power wasn't always the most aggressive guy in the world especially after getting stopped by McCall.

Lewis used his height and reach well so I figure that he probably keeps Quarry at bay and ties him up often enough when he gets in close to take a unanimous decision or possible late round stoppage on cuts. Unless we're talking about the best Lewis vs. the Quarry that looked like he was doing his impression of a punching bag that fought Ali the second time or Norton etc. I don't see him just standing there taking the one sided beating that some people do. If Lewis had one of his off nights like he did vs. McCall and the slow as molasses Rahman I could see Quarry tagging him enough to get the upset stoppage by TKO.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 19:10
by polecateddy
It amuses me that Quarry was toyed with by a ring rusty Ali and easily stopped on cuts ...and yet Lewis apparently struggles! Lol Lewis in 3.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 17:28
by Goldust
polecateddy wrote:It amuses me that Quarry was toyed with by a ring rusty Ali and easily stopped on cuts ...and yet Lewis apparently struggles! Lol Lewis in 3.
It amuses me that there are people who apparently think that Quarry sucked so bad that he was little better than Frans Botha. I figure that if Frank Bruno, Phil Jackson, Oliver McCall, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer, Shannon Briggs, and Zeljko Mavrovic could last past the third round then Quarry could/would as well. If Quarry was good enough to beat Earnie Shavers and Ron Lyle then I think that he would have a good chance of beating many/most of the above listed fighters.

I'm not saying Quarry beats Lewis or that Lewis necessarily has a life and death struggle with the guy but I don't see him just walking thorough him as if he wasn't even there like he did with a stiff like Botha. Quarry would violate Botha on the best day he ever saw and so would Shavers and Lyle.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 17:34
by dempseyfire
Goldust wrote:
polecateddy wrote:It amuses me that Quarry was toyed with by a ring rusty Ali and easily stopped on cuts ...and yet Lewis apparently struggles! Lol Lewis in 3.
It amuses me that there are people who apparently think that Quarry sucked so bad that he was little better than Frans Botha. I figure that if Frank Bruno, Phil Jackson, Oliver McCall, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer, Shannon Briggs, and Zeljko Mavrovic could last past the third round then Quarry could/would as well. If Quarry was good enough to beat Earnie Shavers and Ron Lyle then I think that he would have a good chance of beating many/most of the above listed fighters.

I'm not saying Quarry beats Lewis or that Lewis necessarily has a life and death struggle with the guy but I don't see him just walking thorough him as if he wasn't even there like he did with a stiff like Botha. Quarry would violate Botha on the best day he ever saw and so would Shavers and Lyle.
Exactly. Quarry was unlucky in getting cut up by Ali but Ali wasn't dominating Jerry or anything in the brief 3 rounds of their first fight. Lewis struggled with guys definitely worse than Quarry.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 00:24
by drunkenpiper36
dempseyfire wrote: Quarry was much better than Tucker, Mavoric, or Tua . .all who went the distance with him. .

Probably true. But that doesn't necessarily mean that he has the right set of tools or style to do any better than those guys, nor even just as good. At 6'0" and 195 lbs, Jerry Quarry would have been ill-suited to compete in Lewis's era. And while Jerry faired well against plenty of rated contenders, he often fell drastically short against the elite, ie. Ali, Frazier, Norton, etc. Lennox certainly makes that fraternity. Counter punching against Lewis, particularly the refined version under Manny Steward would be a virtually useless tactic, and Quarry would get absolutely demolished at mid range. Its reasonable to say that Lewis wasn't superman and had his fair share of weaknesses. He even struggled against some guys who rank lower on an all time list than Quarry from a legacy standpoint, as some have already mentioned. But competitive fights are made through chemistry and not legacy.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 00:28
by drunkenpiper36
Quarry was unlucky in getting cut up by Ali but Ali wasn't dominating Jerry or anything in the brief 3 rounds of their first fight.
Of course you're aware that this was Muhammad Ali's first fight in three years right?

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 00:39
by drunkenpiper36
dempseyfire wrote:
drunkenpiper36 wrote:
Crease wrote:Lewis is the big favourite, I wouldn't bet against him... But if Lennox has an "off" night (ala Rahman) then you knows what could happen?
I wouldn't give Quarry much of a puncher's chance. He didn't have the kind of power that Rahman or McCall had, and Lewis wasn't prime for the Rahman fight anyway. I suppose there is some truth to the adage that any heavyweight can knockout any heavyweight, but its hardly something to bank on in this case
Quarry had one punch KO power in his left hook, which he also threw with excellent speed and snap (turning his body perfectly to maximize torque). I certainly rank his power over that of slow as a snail Rahman's
Who at the world level, did Quarry ever KO with " one punch?" If we're talking about guys like Jack Bodell, that doesn't exactly cut it. Rahman was a very hard puncher, albeit limited in just about every other department. Betting money on Quarry to score a one punch KO over Lennox Lewis or any world class heavyweight is a bad idea.

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 02:17
by polecateddy
I can't believe there is even a debate. Quarry was a14 stone fringe contender. He couldn't even put away Floyd 'pretty chinny' Patterson when he had him hurt. At best it's a 3 round fight, probably 2, with Lewis smashing him!

Re: Lennox Lewis v. Jerry Quarry

Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 02:23
by Vladimir5555
Quarry better than Tucker?I don't think so.

For me TNT better boxer than JQ