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Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 17:21
by gilgamesh
Round 15...coming to the end of a tight battle that could go either way on the scorecards. Bonavena walks into a great left hook from Muhammad Ali and collapses to the mat. Though he gets up, he never really regains his legs and is floored 2 more times bringing at end to the bout with Muhammad Ali winning by 15th round TKO.
Oscar Bonavena is so impressed with Ali he repeatedly yells to ringsiders that "He'll (Ali will) beat Frazier"
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 18:17
by Controversial
Ali was the only man to stop the tough Bonavena wasn't he?
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 18:26
by gilgamesh
Yes
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 19:02
by gilgamesh
Il Duce wrote:Controversial wrote:Ali was the only man to stop the tough Bonavena wasn't he?
No,,,,,,,,
Yet another thing that Duce is clueless about. All of Bonavena's other losses came via decision, and he was DQ'ed once. Nobody other than Ali holds a KO or TKO victory over him.
That ain't no opinion Il Douchebag.
THAT'S A FACT
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 19:06
by gilgamesh
Of course we all know you never let the facts get in the way of a good yarn. So by all means March Forward in your Clown Shoes.
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 19:28
by gilgamesh
Il Duce wrote:Controversial wrote:Ali was the only man to stop the tough Bonavena wasn't he?
No,
Oscar Bonavena was stopped by Luis Pires in September 1963, in a South American Amateur Tournament
in Sao Paolo, Brazil.
Oscar was also stopped by Lee Carr on April 30, 1963 at the Pan Am Games.
There is still some controversy about his DQ win over Al 'Blue' Lewis, as Oscar was floored, and was on the
canvas for more 25-seconds.
So now we're going by Amateur stoppages? I guess that means you consider Marciano's record to be 57-4?
Or does it only count when Ali is involved?
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 19:45
by gilgamesh
Il Duce wrote:No,
Just the facts on Oscar Bonavena to clear up the question.
As a professional he was only 'stopped' by Muhammad Ai.
I'll bet that last sentence hurt you to have to say didn't it?
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 20:32
by Seamus
Could someone please direct me to the Obsessive Compulsive Ward ?
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 21:00
by Controversial
A serious question but why are so obsessed with Ali?
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 21:03
by gilgamesh
Controversial wrote:A serious question but why are so obsessed with Ali?
Don't expect to get an answer. When people ask him questions like that, he just shows up and starts ranting like he was before as if he doesn't even notice the question you asked.
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 21:09
by Controversial
gilgamesh wrote:Controversial wrote:A serious question but why are so obsessed with Ali?
Don't expect to get an answer. When people ask him questions like that, he just shows up and starts ranting like he was before as if he doesn't even notice the question you asked.
Ah ok. To me he must be an Ali fan to seemingly know so much about his background and all his fights, and then to post what happened in the 10th second of round 9, 17th second of round 9 etc...etc... I seriously couldn't be arsed or have the time to dedicate my life to an audience of about 6 regular followers of this part of the forum, when in the grand scheme of things none of it is that important.
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 21:23
by Giancarlo
Controversial wrote:when in the grand scheme of things none of it is that important.
It is to him.
It's his life.
He's been on here for hours every day for the last 6 months furiously typing away like the demented nutter that he is.
Reminds me of a rat on a treadmill.
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 21:27
by gilgamesh
Giancarlo wrote:Controversial wrote:when in the grand scheme of things none of it is that important.
It is to him.
It's his life.
He's been on here for hours every day for the last 6 months furiously typing away like the demented nutter that he is.
Reminds me of a rat on a treadmill.
Yeah in response to Controversial's post. I've always thought the same thing, the way he pinpoints the exact second of a round that this happens or that happens, the dude must have all of Ali's fights on a constant loop in his house. With a notebook writing
Round 3: 55 seconds in...Al Blue Lewis lands a jab.
Or whatever the hell. Much as he hates him, he must dedicate more time to watching Ali's fights than anybody, which is kinda ironic and pathetic.
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 22:42
by BoxBuzz
Il Duceroono......
I am quite surprised that you have not mentioned the many many other times Bonavena was stopped.
What about the myriad of red lights that he did not choose to run? You musta forgot!
Or by the pretty girl in the grocery store aisle?
Or by that damn chunk of lead from some effin' low life scumbag coward.
You know anything about that?
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 22:44
by gilgamesh
Il Duce wrote:The dirty and filthy Muhammad Ali
Again pulling down on the neck of an opponent. This is a 'filthy and unclean foul', usually
found in dirty, unwashed and unrefined fighters.
e' sudiciume'
I'll bet you really hated Joel Casamayor eh?
Or...do you know who that is?
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 22:59
by gilgamesh
Il Duce wrote:This is about 'Round 9', not 'Planet 13'.
I believe Muhammad Ali had called Oscar Bonavena.....'an Italian Bum' who was thrown out of Argentina for not enlisting in the Army.
Muhammad Ali,,,,,,,class act.
"This is about 'Round 9', not 'Planet 13' "....I'm at a loss as to what the hell that even means.
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 23:02
by BoxBuzz
This just may be relevant here.
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 11 Dec 2013, 23:18
by gilgamesh
"This isn't Plans 1 thru 8, this is Plan 9...this is the one that worked. The Worst movie ever made"
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 12 Dec 2013, 13:56
by gilgamesh
Il Duce wrote:Oscar Bonavena
"I never realized what 'dirty' fighter Muhammad Ali is. He's very good fighter, but he fouls much
and gets away with it. He dirty, very dirty."
"I was more tired than hurt. I was behind on points, so I had to risk coming in wide-open to get
in a knockout blow. I had to try to win."
"If he fought me in my home-country {Argentina} I win by Knockout. I asked him to come to
Buenos Aires to fight me in rematch, and he said 'No'. He big chicken. He little 'pulcino'."
Somehow I don't believe Oscar Bonavena said the majority of these things you're quoting him with. Probably because you're a well established liar.
Re: Muhammad Ali - Oscar Bonavena 'Round 9'
Posted: 12 Dec 2013, 15:00
by keithmoonhangover
gilgamesh wrote:Il Duce wrote:Oscar Bonavena
"I never realized what 'dirty' fighter Muhammad Ali is. He's very good fighter, but he fouls much
and gets away with it. He dirty, very dirty."
"I was more tired than hurt. I was behind on points, so I had to risk coming in wide-open to get
in a knockout blow. I had to try to win."
"If he fought me in my home-country {Argentina} I win by Knockout. I asked him to come to
Buenos Aires to fight me in rematch, and he said 'No'. He big chicken. He little 'pulcino'."
Somehow I don't believe Oscar Bonavena said the majority of these things you're quoting him with. Probably because you're a well established liar.
Which is strange, because Il Duce doesn't like Ali, because he's a liar.