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Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 14:20
by JamieM
Just a quick question, With it coming to light that Brandon Rios failed a drug test will Marcos Maidana be drug tested automatically? They are both using the same strength and conditioner and same team and in my opinion they know that Rios was using! I really hope Maidana did it all naturally but cant stop thinking that hes gonna fail one!! Surely Broner and his team will be calling for testing also
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 14:23
by jessi
It's a good point, but his clean until proven guilty
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 14:29
by hurlock
Alex ariza should be banned from boxing imo
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 14:36
by Yes We Can
Maidana's biggest improvement has been his basic boxing skills, hence the improved performances lately.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 14:41
by lefty
I really wouldnt be shocked if Maidana does end up testing positive. Not because I think he's a cheat but because Ariza is there.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 14:47
by JamieM
Spot on. Im sorry but I really have a feeling hell fail the test, if he does he needs to be banned for life, what I found strange was that the way he was rocking broner. Didnt expect that as broner has been known to take a shot quite well. For me Ariza is a cheat and although it will never be proved I also think mayweather was right about pacmans camp regarding the exact same issues! Thats now Margarito and Rios failed from Robert Garcias Gym, anyone else?
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:00
by johnnygreaves
In all title fights over here , even area titles theres a compulsory test. Also I'm not at all saying its right but would any sort of pill/injection make one punch harder. ? Your a knockout puncher or you aren't. I thought its in your technique. Please edumacate me
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:06
by lefty
johnnygreaves wrote:In all title fights over here , even area titles theres a compulsory test. Also I'm not at all saying its right but would any sort of pill/injection make one punch harder. ? Your a knockout puncher or you aren't. I thought its in your technique. Please edumacate me
I think it can increase strength which could help with your punching power to some regard. In theory atleast.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:16
by Monte Fisto
Well Rios got done for a dietary supplement (I think). I don't think Maidana usually struggles to make this weight. Does he?
I would be gutted if he was taking illegal substances. Last night was such a good advert for boxing and was an example of all what's good about boxing. (No dodgy decision included)
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:16
by chad
Will reserve judgment until something is proved.
Out of curiosity, will the Rios Pacman fight result be changed to a no contest?
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:25
by davie
what I found strange was that the way he was rocking broner.
Maidana is a known heavy hitter
The only guy broner fought at the weight was arguably the lightest pucher at the top end of any division.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:28
by smoothmoves
JamieM wrote:Spot on. Im sorry but I really have a feeling hell fail the test, if he does he needs to be banned for life, what I found strange was that the way he was rocking broner. Didnt expect that as broner has been known to take a shot quite well. For me Ariza is a cheat and although it will never be proved I also think mayweather was right about pacmans camp regarding the exact same issues! Thats now Margarito and Rios failed from Robert Garcias Gym, anyone else?
To be fair, Maidana is a proven puncher and Broner is a lightweight. Lets not try and take the shine off of what happened last night. Broner was found out, thats all.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:44
by Yes We Can
If somebodys silly enough to let Maidana catch them clean, he's rocking any fighter in the division. Broner hasn't ever been fully chin checked, let alone against a heavy punching welterweight.
Maiadana's technique has improved since joining Garcia, using the jab more, better footwork and all other basic fundamentals. He's no Sugar Ray, but he's a lot less crude than he was.
Maiadana wouldn't need the same diuretics Rios used as he hasn't ever had an issue making weight, Rios has been a notorious drainer most of his career.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:46
by JamieM
Maidana went distance with khan in which he didn't actually have him down did he? Wouldn't say thts a puncher . He can hit hard but didn't think hard enough to trouble broner. Fair play but it's not actually known what rios has used yet I don't think. All hearsay?
Johnny - enhancers etc all improve strength . That's why they are used in all aspects of sport
Unfortunately. Although the theory of your a puncher or not would be ideal not like that and punch power can be altered through drug use hence why it's banned and not legalised
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:01
by johnnygreaves
Yeh I suppose so.its not right however you look at it,just I'm not sure a bit of extra muscle makes you hit harder, I've seen big fella's hit people and punch like an old woman.it would help nearly everything you do in a ring but in my experience you hit hard or you don't.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:09
by Final round
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:12
by JamieM
BINGO!!!!
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:17
by JamieM
Im not expert but iv never seen that kinda thing happen suring a fight, whys he putting stuff up his nose and trying to make it look like hes wiping it. This man should be banned from boxing.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:30
by hurlock
Looks like smelling salts. That's all it can really be, you can see Maidana pull back from the fumes not snorting.
Ariza is a man who made fun out off Freddie roaches illness which is disgusting & assaulted him the geezer is scum!
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:34
by Horse
hurlock wrote:Looks like smelling salts. That's all it can really be, you can see Maidana pull back from the fumes not snorting.
Ariza is a man who made fun out off Freddie roaches illness which is disgusting & assaulted him the geezer is scum!
Freddie deserved it.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:35
by JamieM
You dont snort smelling salts do you? he rubs the thing on his nose like a nose bleed and there is something on it, Its all ifs and buts but honestly i really think this guy is scum and the drugs test will be failed:)
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:39
by Yes We Can
JamieM wrote:Maidana went distance with khan in which he didn't actually have him down did he? Wouldn't say thts a puncher . He can hit hard but didn't think hard enough to trouble broner. Fair play but it's not actually known what rios has used yet I don't think. All hearsay?
Johnny - enhancers etc all improve strength . That's why they are used in all aspects of sport
Unfortunately. Although the theory of your a puncher or not would be ideal not like that and punch power can be altered through drug use hence why it's banned and not legalised
Maidana had Khan out of it. Khan has a better chin than people say, he's no Carl Froch but its not the china people make out.
Khan has a shit ton of Heart & balls, which has actually been his main problem. Most refs could have quite legitimitely stopped that fight, I'm glad it wasn't but it was nip and tuck.
Anyone suggesting MM isn't a puncher is crazy, he bounced Khan around the ring at times, Victor Ortiz got broken, Broner got beat up, he TKO'd Soto Karass a definite hard bastard, KO over cayo.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:44
by expe
Jamie, do you seriously think Maidana isn't a puncher? Did you watch the fight last night? Or any of his other fights? The only reason he didn't spark Khan was because he was too crude to hit him, the one big shot he landed had Khan wobbling around the ring for the next minute.
Why do you want Maidana to fail the test? Do you really want Broner to have an excuse? Pulling up some shitty instagram video means nothing, smelling salts work to wake up someone who's knocked out or drowsy, Maidana was never like that. Could quite easily have been water to help wash away blood around the nose.
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 17:01
by hurlock
Horse wrote:hurlock wrote:Looks like smelling salts. That's all it can really be, you can see Maidana pull back from the fumes not snorting.
Ariza is a man who made fun out off Freddie roaches illness which is disgusting & assaulted him the geezer is scum!
Freddie deserved it.
Silly comment horse.
Many on here would put you in arizas bracket ha!
Re: Drug Test Maidana??
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 17:02
by Monte Fisto
expe wrote:Jamie, do you seriously think Maidana isn't a puncher? Did you watch the fight last night? Or any of his other fights? The only reason he didn't spark Khan was because he was too crude to hit him, the one big shot he landed had Khan wobbling around the ring for the next minute.
Why do you want Maidana to fail the test? Do you really want Broner to have an excuse? Pulling up some shitty instagram video means nothing, smelling salts work to wake up someone who's knocked out or drowsy, Maidana was never like that. Could quite easily have been water to help wash away blood around the nose.
I agree, this is all a bit much. Lets wait for the outcome shall we.
The Bingo shout was a bit strange. I have bionic eyes and I have no idea what im really seeing in this clip.