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Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 14:46
by handsofstone
Having heard Team Murray and Sky claim to have a world title oppurtunity for Martin lined up in the new year,i assumed it may be Golovkin or maybe even a rematch with Sturm.....now im hearing that GGG is being elevated to "Super" champ and Murray will be fighting for the "Regular" belt
So its not a real title shot then is it really?
Same as Quigg,Braehmer,Froch(although TBF Carl does hold the IBF) and the rest of them
Sorry to be going over old ground with the WBA but its just that i was excited for Martin and now id rather him fight for the European than that replica
On a sidenote,just watched Maidana bash up Broner,still buzzin

Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 14:53
by lefty
Yeah it's a mickey mouse belt.
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:03
by davie
Who is he likely to face for this "world title" shot.
WBA rankings read something like:
Golovkin
Murray
Geale
Jarrod Fletcher
Patrick neilsen
Max Bursak
Dmitri chudinov
You would expect it to be a lower down the rankings kind of fighter
Then again, you'd have expected murray, being ranked 1, to have fought golovkin.
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:07
by Horse
WBA Rankings
Champ: Gennady Golovkin
1. Martin Murray
2. Daniel Geale
3. Jarrod Fletcher
4. Patrick Nielsen
5. Max Bursak
If Murray fights Geale for the title, then at least he's fighting a world level opponent and the title will have some level of credibility.
If he wins he's going to make the first defence of this title against Macklin, right?
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:11
by lefty
Horse wrote:WBA Rankings
Champ: Gennady Golovkin
1. Martin Murray
2. Daniel Geale
3. Jarrod Fletcher
4. Patrick Nielsen
5. Max Bursak
If Murray fights Geale for the title, then at least he's fighting a world level opponent and the title will have some level of credibility.
If he wins he's going to make the first defence of this title against Macklin, right?
I think Macklin is gonna be fighting Andy Lee on st paddy's day. Good fight that.
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 15:12
by Horse
columbo wrote:I think Macklin is gonna be fighting Andy Lee on st paddy's day. Good fight that.
Yes, good fight. Murray should fight the winner or Golovkin.
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:08
by davie
According to another thread its fletcher
Not an exciting match up for me
And to answer the question, will I consider him a world champion if he wins?
Not if thats the level of opponent he beats to win it
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:11
by handsofstone
Surely if Saunders can blow Fletcher away in a couple,Murray will do something very similar
The way Hatton was talking,you would have thought he would be going up against a champion
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 19:30
by Jack B
Does anybody have any thoughts of how these joke belts can be got rid of???!!!
I don't get how/why the media get sucked in so easily???? I was watching BBC Sports Personality earlier and heard Scott Quigg being described as 'one of Britain's world champions'. The papers are the same. I really don't get it.
Another case in point - the Ward/Froch situation with the WBA. The BBC website report on Andre Ward defending his WBA super middleweight title. A week later, Froch beats Groves to defend the WBA super middleweight title! And we wonder why the sport doesn't gain casual interest!!!! The general sports fan must read these articles and be utterly confused.
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 20:00
by expe
Jack B wrote:Does anybody have any thoughts of how these joke belts can be got rid of???!!!
I don't get how/why the media get sucked in so easily???? I was watching BBC Sports Personality earlier and heard Scott Quigg being described as 'one of Britain's world champions'. The papers are the same. I really don't get it.
Another case in point - the Ward/Froch situation with the WBA. The BBC website report on Andre Ward defending his WBA super middleweight title. A week later, Froch beats Groves to defend the WBA super middleweight title! And we wonder why the sport doesn't gain casual interest!!!! The general sports fan must read these articles and be utterly confused.
To be fair to the BBC and Ben Dirs in particular, in all the articles on the website about Quigg, they mention Rigondeaux and allude to him being the real WBA champion.
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 07:59
by The_Don1
No surprise that Hatton, mentioned the date and the venue but not the opponent on Saturday then.
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 08:18
by Jack B
expe wrote:Jack B wrote:Does anybody have any thoughts of how these joke belts can be got rid of???!!!
I don't get how/why the media get sucked in so easily???? I was watching BBC Sports Personality earlier and heard Scott Quigg being described as 'one of Britain's world champions'. The papers are the same. I really don't get it.
Another case in point - the Ward/Froch situation with the WBA. The BBC website report on Andre Ward defending his WBA super middleweight title. A week later, Froch beats Groves to defend the WBA super middleweight title! And we wonder why the sport doesn't gain casual interest!!!! The general sports fan must read these articles and be utterly confused.
To be fair to the BBC and Ben Dirs in particular, in all the articles on the website about Quigg, they mention Rigondeaux and allude to him being the real WBA champion.
Yes, I remember Ben Dirs' report on Froch-Kessler, there was no mention of the paper WBA title, just stating his defence of the IBF.
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 08:21
by bripez
The_Don1 wrote:No surprise that Hatton, mentioned the date and the venue but not the opponent on Saturday then.
I know that it is easy to criticise .....
But FW did a textbook job in promoting Hatton - who later slagged him off and left him.
When he went into promoting, Hatton said that he would be on the side of the boxer etc. but he hasn't delivered much in the last few years has he ?
Re: Martin Murrays "world title" shot
Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 12:07
by expe
Jack B wrote:expe wrote:Jack B wrote:Does anybody have any thoughts of how these joke belts can be got rid of???!!!
I don't get how/why the media get sucked in so easily???? I was watching BBC Sports Personality earlier and heard Scott Quigg being described as 'one of Britain's world champions'. The papers are the same. I really don't get it.
Another case in point - the Ward/Froch situation with the WBA. The BBC website report on Andre Ward defending his WBA super middleweight title. A week later, Froch beats Groves to defend the WBA super middleweight title! And we wonder why the sport doesn't gain casual interest!!!! The general sports fan must read these articles and be utterly confused.
To be fair to the BBC and Ben Dirs in particular, in all the articles on the website about Quigg, they mention Rigondeaux and allude to him being the real WBA champion.
Yes, I remember Ben Dirs' report on Froch-Kessler, there was no mention of the paper WBA title, just stating his defence of the IBF.
I get the feeling that if he had his way, there would be a lot more coverage of boxing on the BBC. Most of it at the moment comes from BBC Scotland and Wales covering Burns and Cleverly, plus a few quotes from a Paddy Barnes interview with RTE.