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Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 11:56
by Black Sam Bellamy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7rhzS1rlOk

Creative editing notwitstanding, Deontay reminds me of the first incarnation of Larry O. Timberrrrrrrr !!!

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 13:08
by TopGun
Edited clips from Haye's sparring, not sure you can read a lot into this as it's not even consecutive for more than a few seconds.

It's not like Wilder went down.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 14:03
by Newport Daz
Haye is a world class boxer, love him or hate him. Deontay is just a massive puncher. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Haye did have his way pretty easily with him. Everyone on Current Scene thinks the reason his opposition has been so poor is because his handlers know he has no chin. I hope he does fight Fury. My money if I had any would be on Tyson.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 14:10
by rm1
wild by name wild by nature every time i see him he looks so raw which is odd given the amateur backgroubd and a coach like Breland.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 14:19
by lefty
rm1 wrote:wild by name wild by nature every time i see him he looks so raw which is odd given the amateur backgroubd and a coach like Breland.
I think he had a pretty limited amateur background even though he won an olympic Bronze. Saying that though, so did Joshua and he looks pretty polished. I'd imagine Joshua is more the exception in that regard though.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 14:58
by Andrew
You won't like the look of Wilder in this video where he faces someone who hits him back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNO5bVPP-uw

That 0 is going in spectaclar fashion next year IMO

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 17:26
by reggaereggae
I thought Wilder looked decent against liakovich

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 20:17
by Camcas
Still floored Haye in sparring though :box:

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 20:31
by expe
Camcas wrote:Still floored Haye in sparring though :box:
Where's the proof of that though?

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 20:39
by GilFilmore
Why do people count and keep score of sparring sessions????

Sparring is practice. It's a place where a fighter can afford to make mistakes. Wilder was there to help Haye prepare. Haye was obviously more fit than Wilder too.

Floyd Mayweather along with many other top fighters have been bested and dropped numerous times in sparring. Look how it translated for him on fight night.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 20:43
by The_Don1
and how did Haye look in the fight? Oh we don't know because he cried off 3 fights in less than a year, still counting the money from booking fees though.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 21:55
by Coco
Getting dropped by the morbidly obese dwarf Dustin Nichols was a touch embarrassing!

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 09:12
by Black Sam Bellamy
GilFilmore wrote:Why do people count and keep score of sparring sessions????

Sparring is practice. It's a place where a fighter can afford to make mistakes. Wilder was there to help Haye prepare. Haye was obviously more fit than Wilder too.

Floyd Mayweather along with many other top fighters have been bested and dropped numerous times in sparring. Look how it translated for him on fight night.
Does the lack of movement and novice technique not concern you ? As soon as he gets tagged, the body posture goes to pieces.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 09:15
by Lightsoot
Wilder is soon to become the new Michael Grant. He'll get stretched as soon as he gets clipped with a decent shot. Hopefully one of our heavyweights can wreck his unbeaten record.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 11:54
by rhino222
Ben Carey wrote:Wilder is soon to become the new Michael Grant. He'll get stretched as soon as he gets clipped with a decent shot. Hopefully one of our heavyweights can wreck his unbeaten record.
Now that I do agree with you ben and grant is the perfect comparison to use, always the power to KO anyone, good physique, hyped up to the max, but like a piece or royal doulton when clipped on the old vera lynne!

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 16:26
by funso banjo baby
wilder will deteriorate the longer they feed him stiffs

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 16:33
by Spud
Camcas wrote:Still floored Haye in sparring though :box:
Interesting - when??

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 16:35
by Spud
Ben Carey wrote:Wilder is soon to become the new Michael Grant. He'll get stretched as soon as he gets clipped with a decent shot. Hopefully one of our heavyweights can wreck his unbeaten record.
I have seen him take some heavy shots in sparring from Haye, Towers, Dimintrenko and also an amateur who will make it in the heavyweight ranks when he turns pro ... Filip Hergovic

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 16:36
by Monte Fisto
Wilder will be in with a shout against the best and susceptible to losing when expected to win.

Very watchable fighter to the masses due to the excitement.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 18:18
by Lightsoot
Spud wrote:
Ben Carey wrote:Wilder is soon to become the new Michael Grant. He'll get stretched as soon as he gets clipped with a decent shot. Hopefully one of our heavyweights can wreck his unbeaten record.
I have seen him take some heavy shots in sparring from Haye, Towers, Dimintrenko and also an amateur who will make it in the heavyweight ranks when he turns pro ... Filip Hergovic
Interesting. Someone on ESB posted some amateur footage of Wilder being flattened which didn't bode well. But amateur boxing is different than the pros, and then again so is sparring to the real thing. Like Rhino, I don't think we'll still be talking about Wilder a would be contender in 12 months time.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 18 Dec 2013, 14:42
by Spud
Lightsoot wrote:
Spud wrote:
Ben Carey wrote:Wilder is soon to become the new Michael Grant. He'll get stretched as soon as he gets clipped with a decent shot. Hopefully one of our heavyweights can wreck his unbeaten record.
I have seen him take some heavy shots in sparring from Haye, Towers, Dimintrenko and also an amateur who will make it in the heavyweight ranks when he turns pro ... Filip Hergovic
Interesting. Someone on ESB posted some amateur footage of Wilder being flattened which didn't bode well. But amateur boxing is different than the pros, and then again so is sparring to the real thing. Like Rhino, I don't think we'll still be talking about Wilder a would be contender in 12 months time.
In response to your post - I admit when I saw coverage on ESB of him getting knocked on his arse - tadge worrying.

I could be wrong but I honestly believe his defence has vastly improved.

Going back to being knocked on his arse - the majority of fighters at heavyweight who get hit with a clean shot will invariably hit the canvas.

A prime example - I think Wladimir Klitschko is chinny, but he uses his other attributes to maximum effect and thus why I think he is a great champion because with a massive flaw he has found a way round it.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 18 Dec 2013, 14:58
by JimStone
True but Wilder will not get away with being as negative as Wlad is often accused of being, nor is he as savvy. He's not strong (power and strength are not the same thing before anybody starts) enough to fight how Wlad fights either.

Deontay is what he is. He'll be in some exciting two-way fights sooner or later.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 18 Dec 2013, 15:01
by lefty
Aden wrote:True but Wilder will not get away with being as negative as Wlad is often accused of being, nor is he as savvy. He's not strong (power and strength are not the same thing before anybody starts) enough to fight how Wlad fights either.

Deontay is what he is. He'll be in some exciting two-way fights sooner or later.
Wladimir has a brilliant boxing brain aswell and his judgement of distance is second to none IMO.

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 18 Dec 2013, 15:10
by JimStone
columbo wrote:
Aden wrote:True but Wilder will not get away with being as negative as Wlad is often accused of being, nor is he as savvy. He's not strong (power and strength are not the same thing before anybody starts) enough to fight how Wlad fights either.

Deontay is what he is. He'll be in some exciting two-way fights sooner or later.
Wladimir has a brilliant boxing brain aswell and his judgement of distance is second to none IMO.
Indeed. Wladimir oozes class. We all know his major weakness and, as has been pointed out, he's adapted to compensate. He's not for everybody but who is?

Re: Dont like the look of Deontay Wilder here...

Posted: 18 Dec 2013, 15:38
by DMMA
Spud wrote:
Ben Carey wrote:Wilder is soon to become the new Michael Grant. He'll get stretched as soon as he gets clipped with a decent shot. Hopefully one of our heavyweights can wreck his unbeaten record.
I have seen him take some heavy shots in sparring from Haye, Towers, Dimintrenko and also an amateur who will make it in the heavyweight ranks when he turns pro ... Filip Hergovic
Genuine question, just out of interest, but on video or 'live' in the flesh?