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chucktaylor wrote:Oh yeah, fans in Britain and Ireland are salivating with anticipation! It's an inescapable topic of conversation around pubs.

chucktaylor wrote:Oh yeah, fans in Britain and Ireland are salivating with anticipation! It's an inescapable topic of conversation around pubs.

Datsue wrote:Salgado vs Garcia is a much better match-up.

Ortiz is a headcase & Collazo's pretty shot, imo. Or at least so ring-worn as to make no odds. Might be entertaining in a car-crash sort of way, but I wouldn't watch it beyond that.

But Miguel Angel is quality & Juan Carlos is a hard boy. That'll either be an A-class clinic from Garcia or he gets dragged into the trenches for a war. That's where my money would be going, anyway...

Datsue wrote:Last time I saw Collazo he got his arse solidly kicked by someone who lasted a round with Berto. That was fvcking years ago.

I cannot for the life of me, gil, see this as a fifty-fifty fight. Collazo is gonna cover up for the distance & Ortiz will work him over, or get a big lead & then clothesline the TV commentator or something.

Datsue wrote:Last time I saw Collazo he got his arse solidly kicked by someone who lasted a round with Berto. That was fvcking years ago.

I cannot for the life of me, gil, see this as a fifty-fifty fight. Collazo is gonna cover up for the distance & Ortiz will work him over, or get a big lead & then clothesline the TV commentator or something.

funtime wrote:Collazo's only chance is if he can break Vic down mentally.


which is a decent possibillity if his chin holds up.

Datsue wrote:Last time I saw Collazo he got his arse solidly kicked by someone who lasted a round with Berto. That was fvcking years ago.

I cannot for the life of me, gil, see this as a fifty-fifty fight. Collazo is gonna cover up for the distance & Ortiz will work him over, or get a big lead & then clothesline the TV commentator or something.

gilgamesh wrote:

Datsue wrote:Last time I saw Collazo he got his arse solidly kicked by someone who lasted a round with Berto. That was fvcking years ago.

I cannot for the life of me, gil, see this as a fifty-fifty fight. Collazo is gonna cover up for the distance & Ortiz will work him over, or get a big lead & then clothesline the TV commentator or something.

You're right, I guess Collazo should've been a heavier favorite than that

I thought he might when a decision or get Ortiz to quit late or something, I definitely didn't expect him to catch him like he did in the 2nd round. I knew he had a shot though.

I don't know where Ortiz goes from here. Collazo will probably be able to squeeze a few pretty good paydays out of this...at least one.

gilgamesh wrote:

Datsue wrote:Salgado vs Garcia is a much better match-up.

Ortiz is a headcase & Collazo's pretty shot, imo. Or at least so ring-worn as to make no odds. Might be entertaining in a car-crash sort of way, but I wouldn't watch it beyond that.

But Miguel Angel is quality & Juan Carlos is a hard boy. That'll either be an A-class clinic from Garcia or he gets dragged into the trenches for a war. That's where my money would be going, anyway...

I think Collazo vs Ortiz is an interesting fight. Ortiz should clearly have more left physically between the two as he's quite a bit younger and hasn't experienced the wear and tear of a guy like Collazo, but Collazo is much more mentally tough, and I don't see any chance that Ortiz is gonna make Collazo quit. It's not out of the question that he knocks him out legitimately, but considering that Collazo has never been stopped and has faced some stiff punchers before I wouldn't count on that either.

Ortiz vs Collazo is 50/50 to me and I'd personally lean toward Collazo to win that one. Though I honestly wouldn't feel confident in either man's victory to put any money on it.

kid macoco wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Datsue wrote:Salgado vs Garcia is a much better match-up.

Ortiz is a headcase & Collazo's pretty shot, imo. Or at least so ring-worn as to make no odds. Might be entertaining in a car-crash sort of way, but I wouldn't watch it beyond that.

But Miguel Angel is quality & Juan Carlos is a hard boy. That'll either be an A-class clinic from Garcia or he gets dragged into the trenches for a war. That's where my money would be going, anyway...

I think Collazo vs Ortiz is an interesting fight. Ortiz should clearly have more left physically between the two as he's quite a bit younger and hasn't experienced the wear and tear of a guy like Collazo, but Collazo is much more mentally tough, and I don't see any chance that Ortiz is gonna make Collazo quit. It's not out of the question that he knocks him out legitimately, but considering that Collazo has never been stopped and has faced some stiff punchers before I wouldn't count on that either.

Ortiz vs Collazo is 50/50 to me and I'd personally lean toward Collazo to win that one. Though I honestly wouldn't feel confident in either man's victory to put any money on it.

You were right on this one Gil. I also thought my hometown boy Collazo had a shot.

gilgamesh wrote:
For some reason everytime I thought about the fight, Collazo winning just seemed the more likely outcome to me. I certainly didn't think it would happen in the 2nd round though. That was a sweet right hook to end things.

Datsue wrote:Just watched it. Worst defence in the history of the world. He couldn't square up more if you gave him a effing protractor.

Lovely shot by Collazo though.

Counter-puncher wrote:

Datsue wrote:Just watched it. Worst defence in the history of the world. He couldn't square up more if you gave him a effing protractor.

Lovely shot by Collazo though.

lefty v lefty, it's so often the better right hook that wins it.

just a surprise (to me, too) that Ortiz wasn't that guy..........

columbo wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Datsue wrote:Just watched it. Worst defence in the history of the world. He couldn't square up more if you gave him a effing protractor.

Lovely shot by Collazo though.

lefty v lefty, it's so often the better right hook that wins it.

just a surprise (to me, too) that Ortiz wasn't that guy..........

Ortiz is a natural righty that fights lefty so by default that should be him. Nevermind.

mickey1975 wrote:

columbo wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:
Lovely shot by Collazo though.

lefty v lefty, it's so often the better right hook that wins it.

just a surprise (to me, too) that Ortiz wasn't that guy..........

Ortiz is a natural righty that fights lefty so by default that should be him. Nevermind.

columbo wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Datsue wrote:Just watched it. Worst defence in the history of the world. He couldn't square up more if you gave him a effing protractor.

Lovely shot by Collazo though.

lefty v lefty, it's so often the better right hook that wins it.

just a surprise (to me, too) that Ortiz wasn't that guy..........

Ortiz is a natural righty that fights lefty so by default that should be him. Nevermind.