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burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 12:29
by thatllbeme
hes also trying to make McEwan v ryder and when I asked on twitter about cardle v Harrison he said he likes this so hopefully scott gets his licence back in time!

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 13:54
by DanielGraham73
Good news,although i dont think Hearn has officially announced it yet,would be good to see harrison have another fight,Also simmons,butcher & clark involved who could all imo win a british title in 2014

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 16:39
by JamieM
Really hope Eddie decides to use the fighters in Scotland who deserve to be on big stage. I obviosly have a bias for Ronnie Clark and opinion is obvious but fighters like Iain Butcher, Scott Harrison, Ryan Collins, Michael Jamieson and John Simpson is where its at and would make a great card.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 16:55
by billy nelson
JamieM wrote:Really hope Eddie decides to use the fighters in Scotland who deserve to be on big stage. I obviosly have a bias for Ronnie Clark and opinion is obvious but fighters like Iain Butcher, Scott Harrison, Ryan Collins, Michael Jamieson and John Simpson is where its at and would make a great card.
Ask yourself this, eddies working with Alex Morrison, who does Eddie put on his show Ronnie who's with Gilmour and would sell maybe 150 very top or DavidBrophy. Whos with Alex and sells 500 tickets, take a guess.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 17:10
by JamieM
Billy I know whos going to put on, But for me is Alex argument with Ronnie or Tommy? Anyways its not about that and the discussion about what is wrong with Scottish boxing is for another day. For me the fans deserve a proper undercard and im sorry as much as I have no problem with any of the scottish guys iv struggled to stay awake with previous under cards with the only fighter I have a slight interest in watching is Simmons. The rest put me to sleep including cardle who I just cant bring myself to watch him. Hopefully Alex puts on Ryan Collins as really like the boy and he leaves it all in the ring and boy Jamieson is class. I watched Ronnie beat him in the Amateurs and thought he was very good.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 17:45
by Andrew
JamieM wrote:Really hope Eddie decides to use the fighters in Scotland who deserve to be on big stage. I obviosly have a bias for Ronnie Clark and opinion is obvious but fighters like Iain Butcher, Scott Harrison, Ryan Collins, Michael Jamieson and John Simpson is where its at and would make a great card.
I'd like Butcher to get on this. Was very unlucky challenging for the British Title and at 20 should have decent future in the sport.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 18:48
by daviddee
billy nelson wrote:
JamieM wrote:Really hope Eddie decides to use the fighters in Scotland who deserve to be on big stage. I obviosly have a bias for Ronnie Clark and opinion is obvious but fighters like Iain Butcher, Scott Harrison, Ryan Collins, Michael Jamieson and John Simpson is where its at and would make a great card.
Ask yourself this, eddies working with Alex Morrison, who does Eddie put on his show Ronnie who's with Gilmour and would sell maybe 150 very top or DavidBrophy. Whos with Alex and sells 500 tickets, take a guess.
I think Brophy is a guarantee with him being with you Billy. I however agree with Jamie much prefer Ryan Collins and Michael Jamieson to Michael Roberts and Scotty Cardle.. Eddie Hearn can make this show huge and catapult boxing In Scotland ..

Main Event
Ricky Burns v Terence Crawford

Steve Simmons v Wadi Camacho

Ronnie Clark v John Simpson

Scott Harrison v Scott Cardle

Craig McEwan v John Ryder

Ryan Collins v Michael Roberts

David Brophy v TBA (top 20 middleweight)

Jon Slowey v Kris Hughes

Ian Butcher v TBA( Europeon WBO title I believe)

Michael Jamieson v Mitch Prince

Scott Allan v Anwar alfiadi (sorry for spelling)

All those fights are possible and That's a fantastic show. I'm sure within his budget. With the red button I think this would do very good numbers with some very very competitive fights.. That's how good Scottish boxing can be..

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 21:16
by Alba
daviddee wrote:
billy nelson wrote:
JamieM wrote:Really hope Eddie decides to use the fighters in Scotland who deserve to be on big stage. I obviosly have a bias for Ronnie Clark and opinion is obvious but fighters like Iain Butcher, Scott Harrison, Ryan Collins, Michael Jamieson and John Simpson is where its at and would make a great card.
Ask yourself this, eddies working with Alex Morrison, who does Eddie put on his show Ronnie who's with Gilmour and would sell maybe 150 very top or DavidBrophy. Whos with Alex and sells 500 tickets, take a guess.
I think Brophy is a guarantee with him being with you Billy. I however agree with Jamie much prefer Ryan Collins and Michael Jamieson to Michael Roberts and Scotty Cardle.. Eddie Hearn can make this show huge and catapult boxing In Scotland ..

Main Event
Ricky Burns v Terence Crawford

Steve Simmons v Wadi Camacho

Ronnie Clark v John Simpson

Scott Harrison v Scott Cardle

Craig McEwan v John Ryder

Ryan Collins v Michael Roberts

David Brophy v TBA (top 20 middleweight)

Jon Slowey v Kris Hughes

Ian Butcher v TBA( Europeon WBO title I believe)

Michael Jamieson v Mitch Prince

Scott Allan v Anwar alfiadi (sorry for spelling)

All those fights are possible and That's a fantastic show. I'm sure within his budget. With the red button I think this would do very good numbers with some very very competitive fights.. That's how good Scottish boxing can be..
OK you mentioed a budget, what is Eh's budget for this card?

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 21:50
by daviddee
OK you mentioed a budget, what is Eh's budget for this card?[/quote]

If you watch Eddie Hearns interview with Kugan Cassius he mentions that all shows are budgeted.. These fights would cost about the same as the fights he has put on before. I don't know his exact Budget. End of the day a similar show to this makes sense. I will give you my reasons since you want to ask a silly question rather than try to put forward what Scottish fight fans would like..

1) It showcases Scottish Talent
2) a lot of good ticket sellers there more chance of this selling out
3) boosts Scottish fighters and gives them the exposure to move Scottish boxing forward
4) most fans like competitive fights. That's a show full mostly with them.
5) Viewing figures with Sky would be higher with competitive fights

Alba which one of those fights would you not like to see?

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 22:34
by WelshJack
JamieM wrote:Really hope Eddie decides to use the fighters in Scotland who deserve to be on big stage. I obviosly have a bias for Ronnie Clark and opinion is obvious but fighters like Iain Butcher, Scott Harrison, Ryan Collins, Michael Jamieson and John Simpson is where its at and would make a great card.
Of course he will just like he has done for Feb 1st in Wales gives the venue a real buzz all night.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 22:37
by lefty
daviddee wrote:
billy nelson wrote:
JamieM wrote:Really hope Eddie decides to use the fighters in Scotland who deserve to be on big stage. I obviosly have a bias for Ronnie Clark and opinion is obvious but fighters like Iain Butcher, Scott Harrison, Ryan Collins, Michael Jamieson and John Simpson is where its at and would make a great card.
Ask yourself this, eddies working with Alex Morrison, who does Eddie put on his show Ronnie who's with Gilmour and would sell maybe 150 very top or DavidBrophy. Whos with Alex and sells 500 tickets, take a guess.
I think Brophy is a guarantee with him being with you Billy. I however agree with Jamie much prefer Ryan Collins and Michael Jamieson to Michael Roberts and Scotty Cardle.. Eddie Hearn can make this show huge and catapult boxing In Scotland ..

Main Event
Ricky Burns v Terence Crawford

Steve Simmons v Wadi Camacho

Ronnie Clark v John Simpson

Scott Harrison v Scott Cardle

Craig McEwan v John Ryder

Ryan Collins v Michael Roberts

David Brophy v TBA (top 20 middleweight)

Jon Slowey v Kris Hughes

Ian Butcher v TBA( Europeon WBO title I believe)

Michael Jamieson v Mitch Prince

Scott Allan v Anwar alfiadi (sorry for spelling)

All those fights are possible and That's a fantastic show. I'm sure within his budget. With the red button I think this would do very good numbers with some very very competitive fights.. That's how good Scottish boxing can be..
OK you mentioed a budget, what is Eh's budget for this card?[/quote]

About 6.50

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 22:50
by JamieM
Well hes sold out the past 2 shows in glasgow and says glasgow and belfast are his top 2 shows so surely hell have a higher budget than liverpool and hull shows which have had better cards than glasgow. I know myself taking Ronnie out the equasion id rather watch Scottish talent like butcher, collins, jamieson given a decent chance as there young and can be our next champions, brophy is guarenteed as hes with billy and in rickys camp and Simmons is deserved. Hopefully badger v slowey is made for it also as heard badger won it but wasnt given the nod.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 03:24
by mickey1975
JamieM wrote:Well hes sold out the past 2 shows in glasgow and says glasgow and belfast are his top 2 shows so surely hell have a higher budget than liverpool and hull shows which have had better cards than glasgow. I know myself taking Ronnie out the equasion id rather watch Scottish talent like butcher, collins, jamieson given a decent chance as there young and can be our next champions, brophy is guarenteed as hes with billy and in rickys camp and Simmons is deserved. Hopefully badger v slowey is made for it also as heard badger won it but wasnt given the nod.
He said Belfast had poor viewing figures.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 04:16
by Spud
This is a TOUGH fight ... props to Burns for taking it.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 05:48
by The Law
Spud wrote:This is a TOUGH fight ... props to Burns for taking it.
Indeed. Crawford is one of the best prospects in the United States, at any weight. Unfortunately I expect Terence to win this one but I hope Ricky proves me wrong!

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 06:00
by polecateddy
Crawford by shutout in all likelihood. Cash out fight I guess?!

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 06:22
by Bard of Boxrec
This will be Kovalev/Cleverly mark II. Only hope the bookies price it the same.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 06:26
by whiskey
Fast, slippery switch-hitter.

Crawford could make this look like a cakewalk.

It's down to Burns to burst his lungs and erode that skill and replace it with fatigue.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 06:27
by geoffburt07
Crawford is very good, but it's mad to write Ricky off. Really hope he pulls it off but will need to be at the top of his game. As for undercard it would be good to see Simmons against Wladi Camatcho. John Slowey v Martin Lyndsay. David Brophy v Frankie Borg. John Simpson v Ryan Walsh. John Ryder v Mcewan. Roberts v Clark. Would like to see butcher on the bill but can't see it.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 06:34
by polecateddy
Burns was an amazingly improved fighter. Probably not since Dennis Andries in the UK has a fighter been able to elevate themselves from sub-British title level to impressively winning a world title. But Ricky has seemed plateaued for a while now. If anything a little bit of stardust has gone out of him. He's going down in flames with this match.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 06:42
by bluenoseshf
Haha i love all these "realistic" cards. Why would Hearn put on a stacked card full of the best scottish talent when he can practically sell out the show with Rickys fight alone. Eddie Hearn isnt in this business, to be the saviour of scottish boxing, hes in it to make money for himself and his fighters. On the brightside at least Rickys fights have been competitive so they are better than Warrens cards.

The likely card will be:

Ricky Burns vs Terrene Crawford
Stephen Simmons vs TBA
Michael Roberts vs TBA
Jon Slowly vs TBA
Chris Brophy vs TBA
Scott Cardle vs TBA

A couple from Campbell, C.Smith, Yafai, Appleby, Ryder.

Simmons might get a competitive fight but the rest will be fighting the usual collection of journeymen and Eastern Euro imprts.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 07:06
by geoffburt07
bluenoseshf wrote:Haha i love all these "realistic" cards. Why would Hearn put on a stacked card full of the best scottish talent when he can practically sell out the show with Rickys fight alone. Eddie Hearn isnt in this business, to be the saviour of scottish boxing, hes in it to make money for himself and his fighters. On the brightside at least Rickys fights have been competitive so they are better than Warrens cards.

The likely card will be:

Ricky Burns vs Terrene Crawford
Stephen Simmons vs TBA
Michael Roberts vs TBA
Jon Slowly vs TBA
Chris Brophy vs TBA
Scott Cardle vs TBA

A couple from Campbell, C.Smith, Yafai, Appleby, Ryder.

Simmons might get a competitive fight but the rest will be fighting the usual collection of journeymen and Eastern Euro imprts.
If Chris brophy is on it that will be harsh on David haha. There's nithing unrealistic with the card i put up as Hearn said yesterday he trying to make Ryder v Mcewan and Cardle v Harrison. He said simmons and Camatcho will hopefully be made.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 07:09
by billy nelson
bluenoseshf wrote:Haha i love all these "realistic" cards. Why would Hearn put on a stacked card full of the best scottish talent when he can practically sell out the show with Rickys fight alone. Eddie Hearn isnt in this business, to be the saviour of scottish boxing, hes in it to make money for himself and his fighters. On the brightside at least Rickys fights have been competitive so they are better than Warrens cards.

The likely card will be:

Ricky Burns vs Terrene Crawford
Stephen Simmons vs TBA
Michael Roberts vs TBA
Jon Slowly vs TBA
Chris Brophy vs TBA
Scott Cardle vs TBA

A couple from Campbell, C.Smith, Yafai, Appleby, Ryder.

Simmons might get a competitive fight but the rest will be fighting the usual collection of journeymen and Eastern Euro imprts.
I think Joshua is on this card

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 07:19
by Andrew
Seems the general view here is that Crawford is going to give Burns a boxing lesson.

I'll be honest I've not seen Crawford fight and I only know a handful of guys at Lightweight outside of our lads. But looking at his record he hasn't fought any contenders plus I wouldn't get too excited about a win over Breidis Prescott after that brutal fight he had with Alvarado.

This is an acid test for Crawford travelling into Rickys backyard and the atmosphere will be nothing like he has experienced in the ring.

Just hope the best Ricky Burns turns up March 1st.

Re: burns v crawford march 1st in scotland!

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 07:56
by leforge
bluenoseshf wrote:Haha i love all these "realistic" cards. Why would Hearn put on a stacked card full of the best scottish talent when he can practically sell out the show with Rickys fight alone. Eddie Hearn isnt in this business, to be the saviour of scottish boxing, hes in it to make money for himself and his fighters. On the brightside at least Rickys fights have been competitive so they are better than Warrens cards.

The likely card will be:

Ricky Burns vs Terrene Crawford
Stephen Simmons vs TBA
Michael Roberts vs TBA
Jon Slowly vs TBA
Chris Brophy vs TBA
Scott Cardle vs TBA

A couple from Campbell, C.Smith, Yafai, Appleby, Ryder.

Simmons might get a competitive fight but the rest will be fighting the usual collection of journeymen and Eastern Euro imprts.
Simpson is on it. Ryder is on it trying to make Mcwean fight